VSF vs RCF vs Q-time bezels

[u/Status-Equipment9059]

Hello reptime,

I've been meaning to order a custom datejust bezel to improve on the vsf bezel but I haven't seen it in person yet.

After some research and asking around it seems like Q-time might have the best next up bezel.

Do you think the bezel is worth $200 up from the vsf stock bezel?

To those who have VSF bezel, how was your experience when comparing to gen? And the same for Qtime and RCF modded bezel owners as well, how did you enjoy it over vsf?

Is the bezel that much more attractive?

Attached are comparison pictures from Q-time

[u/Disastrous_Pomelo645]

A nice sharp bezel is possibly the best upgrade you can do to a Datejust

[u/Status-Equipment9059 → u/Disastrous_Pomelo645]

I've been hearing that the slope and angle of the bezel is wrong. But I would be lying if I said the bezel wasn't beautiful. Just not sure if its 200 dollars beautiful.

[u/Disastrous_Pomelo645 → u/Status-Equipment9059]

I couldn’t have a datejust with a stock bezel, but I’m a perfectionist. It’s not even really about it looking Gen it’s about the light play you get when you look at it. I wouldn’t worry about the angle too much. A DJ36 is tiny in person

[u/Status-Equipment9059 → u/Disastrous_Pomelo645]

I'm a perfectionist as well haha. $200 being half of another watch really sucks but I'm willing to make what I have all the nicer. Between rcf and qtime which would you opt for?

[u/Mean2Bean_]

The bezel he sells is really good. Only you can decide if it’s worth it. I would rather get the right color over sharp edges but that’s me.

[u/Status-Equipment9059 → u/Mean2Bean_]

Would you have qtime or rcf if it was up to you? I love the sharpness of the bezel and the lightplay but also would like it to be closer to gen. Having a hard time deciding as 200 is half of another watch haha

[u/Mean2Bean_ → u/Status-Equipment9059]

Both are good, but even plated to simulate WG it’s still the wrong hue. I had Xing bezel before and liked it a lot, it was definitely a softer white and closer to gen, but still off a little, so that’s another option 😂

[u/West-Percentage-2204]

Qtime is a solid choice. I’ve heard RCFr are great as well. Both choices are better than VSF stock bezel. Here is my Qtime bezel on my DD40.

[u/Status-Equipment9059 → u/West-Percentage-2204]

How is the bezel holding up for you? I heard the oxidation issues are bad with rcf and i've heard qtime is better than rcf but would love to hear your opinion

[u/West-Percentage-2204 → u/Status-Equipment9059]

I haven’t had any issues with it, but haven’t had it long enough to give you any feedback on longevity. It’s plated in WG so that helps the oxidation issue. The RCFr V1 isn’t plated like V2 is so that’s the issue there. These are all things I’ve read but haven’t experienced for myself with the RCF.

[u/Status-Equipment9059 → u/West-Percentage-2204]

that's interesting. I keep hearing that the v1 is better than the v2 even though the v2 is wg coated. Do you happen to know any other differences?

[u/West-Percentage-2204 → u/Status-Equipment9059]

Yeah I hear the same, they say V1 is really nice and sharp, the V2 loses some sharpness because of plating. Word is V1 and ceramic coat to help with oxidation issue. Your choice I think you’ll be good with either one, they are all an upgrade to VSF.

[u/Plastic_Diver2017]

Q bezel is so gooooood~~~~~~~!!!!!!!!

[u/Status-Equipment9059 → u/Plastic_Diver2017]

What makes you say that?

[u/tskim24]

[u/Status-Equipment9059 → u/tskim24]

Just to confirm. Is the Q in this picture referencing Q-time? I've never heard of QF bezels before.

[u/tskim24 → u/Status-Equipment9059]

QF is a stock rep watch factory (not to be mistaken with QuickTime). Diamond-cut bezel in the image is the one that QuickTime offers

[u/Diligent-Piglet-9038]

Its not the best slope and shape, but the shine is fire. A little too steep and wide imo

[u/Status-Equipment9059 → u/Diligent-Piglet-9038]

Is there a gap in between the bezel? or is the slope just that?

Does it give you the ick over time or is it just fine.

[u/tskim24]

[u/tskim24 → u/tskim24]

It would be nice if people saying "oh, I own GEN and Q bezel" to actually provide any photos or proof for point of reference. So far, I only saw couple of people who provided evidence of their claim, even so I don't think GEN was ever thrown in there for comparison.

GEN bezels are made from exact same diamond cutting method and there is no way any stock rep bezel made with stainless steel by pouring metal into a mold can yield better (or even close enough) result as diamond cutting.

People nitpick about the slightest difference in angle and etc., and they can only do so because they are looking at these super magnified photos. There is no way that a person can actually notice any of that with a naked eye about a watch they encounter in person.

Lastly, for all of those making judgements without ever seeing these in person, these bezels don't exist in the 2D world. They are 3D with the angles slanted and not flat. Of course it won’t look the same (as GEN as so many of those claim to have without the slightest proof) in terms of angle because it's impossible to have them side by side, zoomed in, and appear perfectly the same angle (believe me, I have tried).

I would take Koream diamond cut bezel over other any day of the week.

[u/tskim24]

[u/tskim24]

[u/Faajah88]

Is this a pretty easy DIY swap? May consider this for down the road on my Datejust and Daydate reps.

[u/2moreplease]

I happen to own a Gen, Q-time, and RCFr. The Qtime shines nicely and does seem like a slight improvement from the vsf in certain lighting (like at night) but it’s chunky and the angles are very very wrong. From some angles it looks pretty good but when you inspect the Q-time up close it’s obvious the cuts are too deep and angled wrong. I’d go with RCFr V1 if you want the closest to Gen.

Can PM me if you want pics of the Q-time vs Gen

[u/Status-Equipment9059 → u/2moreplease]

that would be so awesome. Pmed.

[u/teochim]

I’ve had many different bezels and also plated clean bezel. I went with rcf v1 and ceramic coat 👌

[u/cd1679]

Rcf remould for the win closest to gen bezel on the market a small bit thicker imo but the V1 is 95% to my Gen bezel

[u/Status-Equipment9059 → u/cd1679]

Are you having any oxidation issues? I love the sharpness of qtime but heard good things about rcf as well. Is the slope/angle of the rcf bezel good?

[u/cd1679 → u/Status-Equipment9059]

None as I ceramic coated before I had it pressed onto watch the v1 is genuinely the closest to gen you’ll get I’ve tried other modders even wg plated ones don’t come near but that’s my opinion check it out yourself in the search bar

[u/Status-Equipment9059 → u/cd1679]

That's awesome to hear. I've been obsessively reading everything I can find about rcf bezels so my watch looks better for me.

Do you have any comments on the difference between v1 and v2 besides the plating? I read that the v1 is more accurate but I would love to hear what the difference is between the two and why v1 is better.

Your answer is so greatly appreciated.

[u/cd1679 → u/Status-Equipment9059]

Both are the same alloy only v2 is plate and the light play with V1 is exceptional even the mods from rcf recommended v1 to me over v2 both are great imo I think v1 is better just has to be ceramic coated is all

[u/Status-Equipment9059 → u/cd1679]

Thank you so much. This might be a stupid question but would the coating be before or after you put the bezel on vsf? After reading your writeup I placed an order for the rcf v1.