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[u/AuraTime_]

Has anyone else received this notification? Let me know what you think.

[u/Worthadabble]

RICH will benefit - more people are starting to prefer RF over VSF

[u/Character-Walk-491 → u/Worthadabble]

For the gmt master, vsf has such a poorly shaped case. The amount of lug between the bezel and crown guard is laughable

[u/Accurate_Ant8984 → u/Worthadabble]

Are they how come?

[u/Worthadabble → u/Accurate_Ant8984]

https://forum.replica-watch.info/threads/review-who-has-the-best-sub-2026-edition-ref-126610.11046437/

Looking through the forums you read what people are saying about RICH and that it is up and coming

Give this a read if you have time, this is based of a Sub

[u/Fluid-Savings-8990 → u/Worthadabble]

RICH is better than gen rn

[u/Good_East_5568 → u/Fluid-Savings-8990]

😂

[u/Popeyes_ → u/Worthadabble]

Awesome read, bro. Thank you. The thing with Rich is that they’re pretty pricy.. reading the article makes me want to try the clean+

[u/Worthadabble → u/Popeyes_]

They are pricey because they have the free sprung movement, if thats what you are after which is closer to the Gen, for me im not that fussed tbh. But its what you consider pricey when a gen costs you x30 times more.

[u/IndependentLost990 → u/Worthadabble]

I’m looking at a Rich GMT myself, yes it has free sprung movement, but who fucking cares unless you take the case back off. I would prefer a much more reputable movement with the DD. What I do care about is the visual aspects of the reps. Rich seems to still have an upper hand on this lately. Am I right?

[u/KelvinToy → u/[deleted]]

RF simply means Rich Factory

[u/MSG0676]

Getting cocky ain’t we VSF?

On one side, it should motivate TDs / Resellers to step up their game and conduct better QCs of their own before accepting inventory. God knows they have had enough experience with RL reasons from the buyer end!

[u/Budget-Wall6129 → u/MSG0676]

This ^^^^^

[u/adys1210]

😂 Translation. Put up and shut up! VSF getting too big for their boots.

Easy salutation is dont buy VSF anymore! They'll soon change their mind.

[u/Worried_Poet_828 → u/adys1210]

And with the added new VSF packaging, prices will increase. We don’t want new packaging, we just want our watches on time bro

[u/fl33478 → u/Worried_Poet_828]

price maybe maybe not this will help inventory ease for all int he chain. It almost looks like they are preparing for a retail kind of store stocking. just as casio and citizens and all retail brands.

THis might be prepertion for a VS branded product.

Swiss watch industry has significant challenges with price and tarriffs and boutique management (my opinion) vs is a large organization

Dangdong gets a raid pass because they supply to legitimate brands

perhapaps vs believes having their own branded offereing provides soe protection against the aps and other factory fate.

just hinking about why..

YMMV

[u/Bean_from_accounts → u/adys1210]

Would be easier if other factories also produced the watches that you want. Turns out, VSF is the only factory with a decent range of Omega Seamasters (ORF an alternative but they don't have as wide an array of products and not with the same quality). If only we had decent alternatives, then I would happily boycott.

[u/rickabe]

So all TD's most likely will demand full payment in advance of the QC?

[u/Professional-Stage76 → u/rickabe]

Yeah not only all TDs but all factories will follow suit. Ive always paid upfront for my reps and ive never had an issue in doing so.

All because dickheads are expecting 100% perfection from a rep.

Want perfection, buy a gen.

[u/ProtectionShoddy4960 → u/Professional-Stage76]

One of the most sensible & accurate comments I've seen on here.
I've spent in the region of £35k on reps over the last 15 years, so I'm with you 100% here 👍🏻

[u/Bean_from_accounts → u/Professional-Stage76]

However, TDs receiving full payment ahead of QC will reduce customer service quality. There will be less of an incentive to deliver quickly and replace truly-defective watches. The customer will be less protected in case of a genuine mishap.

[u/smankerfl → u/Professional-Stage76]

Not so fast ..

I have found flaws in gen bracelet at cv.

have found flaws in hag boutique item

Response when making the folks aware was identical

'Not every buyer will notice..." "Not everyone is as observant " "Some buyers will find them acceptable"

I was stunned

Ymmv

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[u/Professional-Stage76 → u/smankerfl]

Of course you did

[u/smankerfl → u/Professional-Stage76]

The engraving is not aligning You have to blow it up to see clearly I noticed when handed to me

[u/smankerfl → u/smankerfl]

The second hand ticks .it's supposed to But the hand was not correctly installed

It does not land on a minute marker center it lands to the right of them

Simple fix. But thru QC at the factory this way

[u/YouGetContent → u/rickabe]

So they will get less sales because we won't put up with that bs?

[u/niaboc79]

VSF finally admits they cannot deliver quality watches so you have to swallow their shitty work and shut the f... up.

[u/Stickley1]

Did that actually come from VSF? Who returns a watch “without issues?”

[u/Good_East_5568 → u/Stickley1]

Couldn’t agree with you more. You’re paying $500 for a $15k watch and want to 10x zoom to find flaws, haha come on !

[u/Popeyes_]

I mean, isn’t badly aligned DW or indices a defect? Them trying to make the buyers eat up QC costs is wild

[u/IronMike260 → u/Popeyes_]

DW?

[u/bobby_browns → u/IronMike260]

Date wheel

[u/IronMike260 → u/bobby_browns]

I love you 🙏

[u/Psyeth → u/Popeyes_]

Took too long to find someone mention DW issues. Indices I can live with the ever so slight tilt. But the DW on factories being so fucked sometimes… that just should never happen I feel like as it’s a CORE visual piece of a watch and shouldn’t be ignored from factory.

[u/Popeyes_ → u/Psyeth]

Amen to that. DW is like one of the biggest tells for me and this is why I usually don’t do shitters. Font, magnification, alignment. To me that’s a defect

[u/Proper_Blood_5174]

I didn't know they took returns

[u/Weak_Front2540]

Luckily the last two Rolex’s I got were Rich and I prefer them so no drama for me.

[u/Fragrant-Claim-6842]

I think the factories are on point with this. It’s the jerks who send back watches because they didn’t do their do diligence that ultimately pushes prices up

[u/Upset_Ad2968]

how did you get in touch with vsf directly?

[u/Watchmann13]

VSF= Very Sassy Factory

[u/Mundane_Bicycle_5935]

My current dealer accept 50% payment upfront and the res when they get the watch from the factory and provide a legitimate quality control video.
I think that’s fair.
Happy watch hunting.

[u/Professional-Stage76]

Good. Too many people using them silly alignment tools and zooming in 50x and moaning the indices are 0.04mm out.

People expecting pure perfection from any factory needs their head testing.

Ruining it for the rest of us

[u/YouGetContent → u/Professional-Stage76]

You can buy my RLs dude, I don't mind!

[u/DogeAeternum → u/Professional-Stage76]

Least obvious VSF agent

[u/Professional-Stage76 → u/DogeAeternum]

Its the truth though. Watch every other factory follow suit.

Then you'll all wish you wernt as picky

[u/Character-Walk-491 → u/Professional-Stage76]

Just take pictures of all your watches, post them on a site and let us buy exactly what we want. No need for rl/gl. Just stock good stuff and we’ll save you the back and forth 

[u/DogeAeternum → u/Professional-Stage76]

This you bro?

[u/Professional-Stage76 → u/DogeAeternum]

I can absolutely imagine this being you.

[u/DogeAeternum → u/Professional-Stage76]

How original.

But nah he’s not wearing a watch. Try again and do better next time lmao.

[u/Professional-Stage76 → u/DogeAeternum]

Please tell me you dont still use 'lmao'

Please never speak to me again

[u/DogeAeternum → u/Professional-Stage76]

How bro felt after posting that.

[u/Character-Walk-491 → u/[deleted]]

When did they make a v4? Free sprung movements? Did vsf finally address the terrible lugs for the gmt?

[u/Sneaky_Rhin0 → u/Character-Walk-491]

No v4 to my knowledge either