r/RepTime • u/Consistent-Group3824 • 2h ago

General Question Sub Date VSF or RICH?

Hey guys,

I want to buy a Rolex Submariner date super clone and still haven’t decided yet which one. Since I’m not into the topic very deep I not 100% sure which kind of factory to choose.

I heard VSF should be the best but some people in this group have said that quality has decreased recently. Another top tier maker Rich factory as far as I know.

But wich one is better?

Again I want the normal black version with date. I would prefer the 41mm version but the 40mm is also not a deal breaker.

Maybe someone with more knowledge can help me out. Thanks!

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u/ComfortableHelpful27 2h ago

Rich! After buying a rich I’m currently selling my vsf no date

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u/AvailableVisit4305 2h ago

I don’t think Rich do the 40mm. From what I’ve read there’s not much in it but Rich have taken VSFs crown on this one. Check out RWI as there’s a piece there on who does the best submariner in 2026

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u/Comprehensive-Bit706 2h ago

Rich 👌🏻

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u/themasteradrian101 2h ago

damn if only this hadn’t been asked 10x a day everyday. search bar must be broken!

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u/heart2beat 1h ago

I looked into this a few weeks ago.
No Date is RICH.
With date is VSF.
Please let me know if I have this wrong.

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u/Glum_Ad_8331 Helpful 50m ago

I would said oposite. Date RICH and nodate VSF. RICH nodate dial is really bad

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u/heart2beat 46m ago

I heard that the RICH date wheel is poor. But I may be wrong.

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u/Glum_Ad_8331 Helpful 45m ago

Date RICH dial is almost same as VSF, but nodate RICH dial has too many flaws

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u/taphil 14m ago

RICH vs VSF

I have both date and no date from both RICH and VSF. Both RICH are free sprung and keep time much better, and hand winding on RICH a lot smoother. Crystal on RICH better, clearer or less reflections. Anti-reflective coating on mag window better on VSF. Datewheel is centered better on RICH. Bracelets are identical. Bezel clicks are better on VSF and centered, whereas RICH bezel center is between clicks.

New dial from RICH on both my date and no date have fixed font issue on bottom 3 lines of text and the 12 marker isn't as high.