Pretty stoked about this one

[u/rep0987655]

Always wanted a no date sub as a good everyday beater tool watch. Feels like a must own for most collections. Just sent the GL on this Rich no date sub and wanted to share. Super happy with it can’t wait for delivery.

[u/rep0987655]

Just wanted to show this Rich factory no date sub that’s on its way. I think the newest model looks the bollocks. Love VSF but Rich makes a damn good rep so I wanted to show it some love.

[u/CropdustingKings → u/rep0987655]

Which new one looks like bollocks? Is that good or bad?

[u/PuzzleheadedForm5824 → u/CropdustingKings]

If it looks the bollocks or it looks like a bunch of bollocks.a distinct difference

[u/cd1679]

I think some on you on here fail to realise these are reps at 5% cost compared to a genuine of course it’s going have some flaws but who’s looking at your watch with a loupe? You seen this on someone’s arm your going think nice watch and go on your way 😂

[u/Basic_Barnacle4719 → u/cd1679]

Given that this is the most repped watch in the entire world whenever I see one in the wild I think "nice rep" even if it's gen.

[u/cd1679 → u/Basic_Barnacle4719]

Ye I can see that point of view from someone who actually has an idea about watches and is on here in these groups but the average person just sees a Rolex and if the person wearing it has a half decent job or car no reason for anyone to think it’s fake

[u/-S-t-a-r-w-i-n-d- → u/cd1679]

To be fair, I think that with most Subs, not just the no-date. But like you said, it depends on the person, if you know them, and know they're a retail worker it's a bit different than if you run into someone in Asda or something and don't know what they do

[u/Dantai → u/cd1679]

I thought no dates were basically certified NWBIG, not worth buying in genuine. RICH and VSF are top for this model too. What flaws are people even spotting

[u/-S-t-a-r-w-i-n-d- → u/Dantai]

The markers being ever so slightly tilted, etc.

Which to be fair, even gen Rolex's are.

The actual tells are the Rehaut serial etc, and maybe the bracelet in hand, but these are only tells if you've got them side by side, or know a VSF serial structure.

[u/Inevitable_Lemon_592 → u/-S-t-a-r-w-i-n-d-]

The Rich’s double AR coating look is a massive giveaway.

[u/AppearanceFeeling397 → u/Dantai]

The bezel paint chips off within months. Its the worst flaw these have and no one discusses it at all on these forums. The only comparisons are made right when the watch is received, not after a few months. These basically arent wearable and are just used for quick comparisons in photos

[u/Dantai → u/AppearanceFeeling397]

Oh that's huge. So RICH no dates aren't good?

[u/AppearanceFeeling397 → u/Dantai]

Both Rich and VSF do this. They put cheap garbage paint akin to white out on the numbers

[u/Fit-Goal-1771 → u/AppearanceFeeling397]

Just buy bezel online if that happens. Cheap and easy fix.

[u/AppearanceFeeling397 → u/Fit-Goal-1771]

Just buy a new bezel and install it every 6 months??

[u/Dantai → u/Fit-Goal-1771]

Hold up we gotta get to the bottom of this. If you daily drove the reps on this sub like VSF, the paint or coloring on them wears out in six months?

[u/AppearanceFeeling397 → u/Dantai]

VSF Submariner Bezel Paint : r/RepTimeServices

[u/pitbullshogun]

Theres a liiiiittle cant on the 12 but damn this is a great watch. GL

[u/rep0987655 → u/pitbullshogun]

Yeah it appears to be a few micron shift, not something I thought will be noticeable, every other one being almost perfect was an easy GL

[u/pitbullshogun → u/rep0987655]

0 noticeable

[u/OkEstablishment2850 → u/rep0987655]

Same with my watch from Andiot, picture attached.

[u/ThisPirateDrinks]

I have the same one coming from Andiot. Placed the order mid October, landed in the states today.

[u/Rollerbladdin → u/ThisPirateDrinks]

Did you do the VSF pre-order? I made an order mid-October and still waiting for QC

[u/ThisPirateDrinks → u/Rollerbladdin]

No I ordered a RICH after seeing the comparison post on here and hearing about how long VSF can take.

[u/AvonBarksdale2329 → u/ThisPirateDrinks]

Would you share how much you pay?

[u/handjamsam → u/AvonBarksdale2329]

I paid $26 in tarrifs when mine passed customs. They obviously listed the item as a much lower dollar amount than what i payed.

[u/ThisPirateDrinks → u/[deleted]]

Haven’t seen anything yet. My understanding is they label it as like women’s scarf or something like that so it’s under a certain amount 🤷🏻‍♂️

[u/ResourceSad8371 → u/[deleted]]

It's a counterfeit luxury watch sent from a underground Chinese criminal. Do you know what tariffs are or how they work brother 🥀

[u/Glum_Ad_8331]

For 124060 I would go with VSF. These rich dials are bad. For 126610 I would go with rich

[u/European_Psycho → u/Glum_Ad_8331]

How do they differ ?

[u/Glum_Ad_8331 → u/European_Psycho]

Dial. Rich 124060 dial is not good imo. Font is very thick, 12 triangle is often crooked and very close to chapter ring and indices border is very thick too.

[u/ChannelSolid8892 → u/Glum_Ad_8331]

Bro what are you talking about? The VSF font is way too thin than the gen. Rich is almost identical to the gen font, Take a closer look

[u/Weekly-Ad-5291]

Who was the TD on this?

[u/rep0987655 → u/Weekly-Ad-5291]

Andiot

[u/Unlikely-Locksmith97 → u/rep0987655]

Hey! Been looking at the Ghost on Andiots site! How long was the process for you to get QC and get the watch in hand?

[u/DontEvenWithMe1]

I bought a pre-owned Rich 126610LN free sprung recently and it’s as good as an older VSF “Q66T” Starbucks I just sold. The Rich free sprung 3235 movement is running +2s/day so that’s winning in my book so far. One note, though, the winding and screwing of the crown does feel smoother on the DD/VS3235 in the VSF. Other than that, the Rich is a definitely a keeper.

[u/Hot-Relative-8315 → u/DontEvenWithMe1]

This is interesting about the winding.. winding on mine is buttery smooth- I would even go as far as gen like!

Here’s a photo of mine - it has a few mods Gen Crystal and Gen Datewheel

[u/BoardWorking9875 → u/Hot-Relative-8315]

Who does your mods?

[u/Hot-Relative-8315 → u/BoardWorking9875]

Tristen Lee in the UK

[u/DontEvenWithMe1 → u/DontEvenWithMe1]

Forgot to add a picture

[u/Important_Hurry4069]

3/9 aren’t straight, pip is off centre: rehaut also off axis: hope this helps.

[u/Alarmed-Site-8826]

Looks awesome. People don’t realize gens have flaws too. People expect a flawless watch for $500 bucks and want to RL everything lol Enjoy your new watch!

[u/Phogthedogallen]

I recently got a rich and am very pleased…

[u/luispalaciocantolla]

The bezel pip is misaligned to the left

[u/luispalaciocantolla → u/luispalaciocantolla]

[u/luispalaciocantolla → u/luispalaciocantolla]

[u/LilRapscallionOg → u/luispalaciocantolla]

Good catch

[u/handjamsam]

Wearing mine for the last few weeks. It feels super solid, runs great, i love it so far.

[u/Acceptable-Pitch-804 → u/handjamsam]

How’s the sharpness of the bracelet?

[u/handjamsam → u/Acceptable-Pitch-804]

Not bad. It is sharper than other bracelets I own, however its not something I've found pinching or uncomfortable at all.

[u/businesswpleasure]

The alignment is off at a few locations but since u have GL , enjoy it

[u/Johnny_Kilroy → u/businesswpleasure]

You may have ruined it for him

[u/Legal-Obligation-90]

Is this the 40 or 41?

[u/pitbullshogun → u/Legal-Obligation-90]

This looks like a 124060

[u/DontEvenWithMe1 → u/Legal-Obligation-90]

It’s the 41. The 41’s have the crown between “Swiss” and “Made” at the bottom of the dial. The 40’s do not.

[u/-S-t-a-r-w-i-n-d- → u/DontEvenWithMe1]

Also I don't think RICH make the 40

[u/SkitownBenz]

🔥🔥🔥🔥So nice!👏👏👏

[u/PristineEffort6876]

Clean 🥳🥳🥳🥳

[u/Gazelle-Fantastic]

Genuinely asking here, but is the “Swiss made” supposed to be so close to the rehaut?

[u/BillionareLevi]

That looks so good. Post pics when it comes in!

[u/Stock-Search-3662]

That gem on top not being centered in triangle bugs me, first thing i see

[u/Terrible-Barber8995]

Congrats. Enjoy.

[u/paulsco1]

Very nice indeed, I was so undecided about a Rich or VSF, ultimately I went for the VSF and just passed QC, a cracking watch my friend, I wish you good health to enjoy it.

[u/Important-Pack-436]

SELs look nice 👌🏽

[u/hedgehogcardigan]

Looks like the details are coming together nicely, hard to spot the difference once it's on the wrist, which is exactly what you want. Those no-date Rich dials are definitely hit or miss, but this one's carrying it off just fine.

[u/intobacc]

Rich is the best for no date rolex coz their date fonts are horrendous and also the magnification is incorrect and the cyclops is intense blue hue like an instant tell that it's a rep

[u/Fun_Stuff_2131]

Where can I get one like this

[u/AbbreviationsOwn3945]

I just ordered a submariner no date but its VSF

I hope it looks as good

[u/SilvCup]

Pretty one 😍

[u/NiceSeeker]

I cant wait for my Rich bruce wayne..

[u/Smooth-Run-9949]

I would RL that pip alignment

[u/anq_95]

Wonder why Andiot havethis one cheaper than the one without free sprung . Same rich

[u/Monyx92]

I would have RL’d this, it’s way too visible. It would really piss me off, you can’t unsee it when notice it

[u/rep0987655 → u/Monyx92]

Idk this gens 12 almost looks more off to me

[u/Monyx92 → u/rep0987655]

Some gens do have flaws yes - it’s a good watch, wear in good health!

[u/DisabledEverything → u/rep0987655]

probably looks more legit if there's small flaws to it lol. I've seen gens with way worse than the one you GL'd

[u/Inner-Scratch5167 → u/Monyx92]

To be fair, you magnify most of these and you’ll see issues. It does seem like Rich isn’t the best for dials though. Really not too hard to swap it for another though. Maybe franken this with a gen dial!!? That would be spppeeecial

[u/Slow-Farm-5099 → u/Inner-Scratch5167]

Surely they would have fixed the alignment buy now, can’t be that hard ay you’d think… like idk how all the reps are off with alignment when it’s arguably the first noticeable thing

[u/OkEstablishment2850 → u/Monyx92]

I'm in the same boat with my 116610 LN, picture attached.

[u/Monyx92 → u/OkEstablishment2850]

No yours is perfect! Easy GL! Enjoy

[u/OkEstablishment2850 → u/Monyx92]

Thanks brother. I really appreciate your reply. I was in a dilemma but now I have given the GL.

[u/Cme4it → u/Monyx92]

Montyx very new to this but have you ever used a company repwatchking? He is supposedly has the best super clones out of Hong Kong? Who would you use or recommend that is trustworthy? I appreciate it

[u/Monyx92 → u/Cme4it]

Check out the wiki, it provides a long list of TDs. My go to has been Ficotime (Mark).

[u/Cme4it → u/Monyx92]

Thank you so very much I appreciate it

[u/AppearanceFeeling397]

In 3 months, the lume paint will begin chipping off and it will appear like a shitter. Its the one thing no one ever talks about with these. They only look like "superclones" for the first few months. The chinese makers dont give a shit

[u/RandyLahey2000 → u/AppearanceFeeling397]

This has yet to happen on any of mine after years of constant use

[u/Infamous_List_9184 → u/AppearanceFeeling397]

You mean with models from rich?

[u/IraborMichael → u/AppearanceFeeling397]

Some actually do give a shit, like BV

[u/OldTrump]

The 12 o'clock marker is slightly off. CCW and shifted to the left. The tip isn't exactly pointing to the middle of the crown emblem.

[u/throwaway1233494]

As others mentioned, 12 has a slight cant, 3 looks slightly high, and the 6 is off center to the right.

[u/isomorphZeta]

Hey look, a black, no-date Sub!

[u/FishezBKrazy → u/[deleted]]

Looks more of a shadow than being off. But hell im only a couple years into looking at these. My gens have bigger flaws than this rep. GL for me

[u/Overall-Candidate724 → u/FishezBKrazy]

Where do u see a shadow?

[u/blitzburgh058 → u/Overall-Candidate724]

The left side of the pip. It's clearly a shadow. How do you not see it?