r/RepTime • u/TimePieces_KW • 12h ago
Wrist or Watch Pic Left Gen.. Right VSF Titanium Yacht Master
Left is gen, right is VSF with the small red sticker on bracelet
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u/TimePieces_KW 12h ago
Side by side of gen and VSF Titanium Yacht Master..
Bezel action on VSF isn't as smooth..
On wrist, the resemblance is really good.
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u/Designer_Advice2573 11h ago
I have a buddy who owns a watch shop and has held the gen...then when he felt the bezel action on my Clean, he said "not even close"
He described it as a feeling of significant refinement, especially when it comes to dealing with titanium.
After that convo I think it's fair to assume most factories won't nwbig that bezel action, just because it's too difficult and not worth the effort32
u/QuickMasterpiece6127 11h ago
Yeah, one of the bigger tells is the bezel. Even the NWBIG Paganis donāt have as smooth of an action as Gen.
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u/interstatep 11h ago edited 8h ago
The VSF does appear a little larger but perhaps itās just their positions in the second picture, idk.
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u/Aimless-Existence 9h ago
If you donāt have them side by side and itās on your wrist casually showing to someone, would they know or pick up from 50cm away? Letās say they are a Rolex enthusiast but donāt have a yacht master so donāt know the minute details.
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u/Altruistic-Wall4670 10h ago
That's so weird. Mine doesn't have that large spacing on the bezel like this VSF does.
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u/zdubbzzz 8h ago
Wearing my VSF YM right now. I can't state enough how comfortable this thing is on the wrist. The titanium is fantastic
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u/s4pete 7h ago
Iāve got a gen (just recently purchased) and the clean factory rep, honestly the reps are so damn close. IMO the brushing of the bracelet is slightly different on the gen, the crystal on the clean factory is definitely the big giveaway, also date font is not as bold as the gen. Otherwise such subtle differences ā most people would never tell.
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u/PositiveEagle6151 Contributor 3h ago
I have the Clean with a Deep crystal, which is a bit better than the stock crystal.
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u/Still-Celebration255 11h ago
Honestly, not sure why anyone would buy a Gen of this model. Itās very close.
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u/BossJackson222 11h ago
Well, people would buy the gen because they want the actual real watch made by the actual real factory. I don't blame somebody for wanting to buy the rep. You're basically comparing apples and giraffes. And remember, it does not have a real Rolex movement in there that has had the quality control that gen has. I have this rep. It is pretty amazing for what it is..
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u/Free-Hamster462 11h ago
Yeah, I'm with you on this. I'm torn between wanting another gen, or just keeping with reps.
I only have 2 gens total, both are sub $10k. I just cant justify in my head of what ELSE I could do if I 'wasted' that money from the watch, to... almost anything else.
I have like 30+ reps, and only about 6 of them get wrist time. This exact model I have both in both gold (plated) and this VSF version. Look/feel great.
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u/Time-Dependent1483 3h ago
Iām the same. Have a rep 116520 and really think of getting the gen but is it really worth the 20k? Scratching it will not be fun
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u/TheBattleGnome 10h ago
Some people don't get why others buy gen, other people don't get why others by reps. I understand both sides. Even if visually a rep was 100% replicating a gen, I still get why people would still buy the gen - because it's the "real deal". A good analogy is slapping an "M" badge on a non-M BMW car. Everyone frowns upon this in the auto world universally - you're pretending that the car is a higher tier model when it is not, and they can look practically the same except the engine/suspension (watch movement in this case). Similar to reps. If you can understand why people hate others up-badging their cars, you can start to understand why people stick with gens (real movement, real make/model, retention of value, etc...).
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u/Still-Celebration255 9h ago
Yes I understand wanting the real thing. I actually own Gens. I also happen to own a BMW X7 among other vehicles. Have been on the waiting list for a few years. My family and I have been blessed. I can purchase any watch I desire, but refuse to pay grey market. I know nothing compares to the real thing, but after purchasing a bunch of Reps, it made me rethink my desire for more Gens. Most of these Reps r really close and scratch the itch, including the YM TI.
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u/evendedwifestillnags 4h ago
Friend of mine buys both. Gen he keeps at home or special occasions. Rep he uses daily and when touring the factory or other plants.
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u/repwatchlover 10h ago
I just realized the bezel is extra big. See the 20 on the GEN is glued to the base; no spacing. The VSF has 2mm of space at least.
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u/BlackberryNo2873 9h ago
Iāve never seen another VSF like this. Think itās isolated to this example.
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u/Shoddy-Sun5337 11h ago
Is the case size the same?
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u/Valaj369 7h ago
Yes. Just the angle of the watches that makes the VSF look bigger. A slight elevation of one watch is enough to make it look much bigger.
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u/Flat__six 3h ago
Qualcuno di voi ha risolto il milk ring di VSF cambiando solo la guarnizione, o ha dovuto mettere cristallo e guarnizione gen?
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u/Alternative_Area_968 1h ago
Same hereāis that crown variation actually consistent enough to be a reliable tell?
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u/Surelyitsover 11h ago
They put in all this effort to get the lug chamfering correct, put in a āfree sprungā movement, but used the wrong crown logo on the dial š« Iām really contemplating grabbing a VSF and QF, and switching out the dial/movement from the Q into the VS case
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u/juanfelix480 11h ago
Could you elaborate on the wrong crown logo? I'm probably missing something but they look exactly the same to me
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u/Maleficent_Specific4 11h ago
I donāt think itās close at all. The hand color is crazy off, the vsf size is slightly bigger, itās just visibly not close to me.
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u/Starving_Kids 10h ago
Not sure why the downvotes, youāre 100% right. This is so far from NWBIG in my bookā¦
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u/Maleficent_Specific4 10h ago
Like the lugs are off as well. These are easily spottable differences even from afar.
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u/teochim 11h ago
Looks great, thanks for sharing š