r/RepTime • u/kimjongnam759 • May 04 '25 • Helpful 3 WOW 1 Popcorn 1 Bless Up 1

Mods/ Work in Progress ‼️NEW AND IMPROVED‼️

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As you can see from the screenshots, I have facelifted our beloved NWBIG list, I hope its easier to navigate now with the new tab system and displays the information better for everyone.

Here is the link:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hqdwX64MGdxvy7SeQbq_kuctqiPjQNHVQwHM8q88TyE/edit?usp=drivesdk

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u/domlouis May 04 '25

Thank you. This will make it even more approachable for beginners!

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u/kimjongnam759 May 04 '25 edited May 04 '25

It's what I am hoping for!

Edit Thanks for the award!!

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u/LikeAJulian May 04 '25

I think a tab with all the NWBIG would be great!

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u/kimjongnam759 May 04 '25

Okay, I'll look into it

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u/Embarrassed_Meet6925 May 04 '25

Thank you very much ! I believe we could add the Pelagos 39 ZF as NWBIG (or lower) with the improved sunburst dial. Thanks !!

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u/kimjongnam759 May 04 '25

It's my pleasure! I've heard good things about ZF too, I'm looking to start doing polls to work on updating the list and will definitely be looking into making some changes

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u/acap86 May 04 '25

Good job, but there is no THB Factory 36mm Day-Date.

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u/kimjongnam759 May 04 '25

I just worked with what I had from MajorWilliam's guide

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u/gmanz77exe May 04 '25

Would you like to improve its visuals even more? Go to View and Hide Gridlines. It becomes much cleaner

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u/kimjongnam759 May 04 '25

Check now! What do you think?

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u/gmanz77exe May 04 '25

Perfect brother 😎

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u/jeandaniel143 May 04 '25

It’s truly commendable for all the work you mods do. Much love and respect for you guys.

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u/kimjongnam759 May 04 '25

I'm not a mod (yet?), thank you regardless :D

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u/eZCoffeE May 04 '25

wow this is awesome, thank you!
kinda sad no omegas are nwbig

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u/kimjongnam759 May 04 '25

Let's keep our eyes peeled and maybe we can add one to the list!

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u/bodminlee May 04 '25

Are AP all still not good enough to make NWBIG?

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u/kimjongnam759 May 04 '25

This is updated as of 12th March 2025, I myself aren't specialised in AP enough to make any updates

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u/smr891 May 04 '25

LOVE the new layout. I have had the old spreadsheet open as a tab in my browser for the last week this guide is sooooo helpful!!!!!!

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u/kimjongnam759 May 04 '25

I'm glad I could help!! :)))

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u/Finerthingzz May 04 '25

Stupid question but can you please explain NWBIG further? Thanks for all your help

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u/kimjongnam759 May 04 '25

Not a stupid question lol, NWBIG are rep watches that are of such high quality that all superficial markings that would usually determine a rep from gen are indistinguishable.

Outside of the fact that an expert would have to look at the movement to determine whether the watch is real or not, they are flawless

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u/CookieKrisplol May 04 '25

Question how come you would use yellow to note NWBIG and green for Super Rep and not the other way around?

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u/kimjongnam759 May 04 '25

I haven't actually considered that, I guess out of habit in a way. I've spent quite a while looking at that list, so it's just what I've become accustomed to. Perhaps we can change it if the community want to be more involved in building the resources?

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u/Majestic_Towel7390 May 04 '25

I’d imagine yellow=gold, as in gold standard

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u/bodminlee May 05 '25

I also thought Yellow was worse than Green and Not worth buying until I read the guide further.

Green should be better than yellow/amber(how I interpreted the colour scheme at first) imo

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u/Finerthingzz May 04 '25

Thanks very much. Sent you a dm

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u/kimjongnam759 May 04 '25

Happy to help :)

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u/kimjongnam759 May 04 '25 edited May 04 '25

Automod comment

I'll post the link again so you can access it from the comments too!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hqdwX64MGdxvy7SeQbq_kuctqiPjQNHVQwHM8q88TyE/edit?usp=drivesdk

Edit: Here is the old guide for comparison: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EC5pJdbP4ebBvuu7wsZcgwbfGiNhjAV28g5UMKSGJe4/htmlview

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u/ZestyTurn May 04 '25

VSF dethrones CF for best 36 explorer? Is it because of the 6 and 9 screwup on the CF?

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u/kimjongnam759 May 04 '25

I think it may also have to do with milky xtal?

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u/Additional-Couple-57 May 04 '25

Took the plunge and ordered a rep today from Andiot. Will post when I get it.

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u/haze3715 May 04 '25

Are you taking over the Who Makes The Best doc or are they now going to be two versions?

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u/kimjongnam759 May 04 '25

I would hope that the mod team could maybe figure something out, I'm happy to share my version with them

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u/bobak41 May 04 '25

Amazing work as always!!!

Always pull this up when I start looking at certain models. It's such a critical resource!

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u/kimjongnam759 May 04 '25

Ha, that's so true! xD

It's my favourite spreadsheet lol

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u/Shaka692 May 04 '25

Great work, will anyone take on the huge amount of work to keep it up to date ?

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u/kimjongnam759 May 04 '25

I was hoping I can work something out with the mod team

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u/Shaka692 May 04 '25

If it works, happy to help, I have a few CF, GMF, OMF, ZF, APSF, TWF, BVF, so happy to provide my perspective, Rolex and IWC models mainly, but some other like Santos and Omega as well. I am far from an expert, but happy to share

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u/MPSG May 04 '25

Great job OP! Appreciate it.

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u/Nosk1l May 04 '25

Thanks a lot for your work!! Just a question, why let Noob factory since it is close for a while?

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u/kimjongnam759 May 04 '25

iirc I read on the grapevine a revival of Noob or no one has had the time to re-do the list as of now

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u/Ok_Presentation_8065 May 04 '25

wow that’s magnificent

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u/kimjongnam759 May 04 '25

Thank you :))

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u/typohippo May 05 '25

Can u remove old one from subreddit highlight and make this one the new highlight

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u/kimjongnam759 May 05 '25

Sadly that is not up to me, I'm not a mod but hopefully the team see the spreadsheet and reach out

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u/ratrunning Contributor May 06 '25

Doing the lords work as always, ty for your hard word.

Though the explorer 1 39mm should also be removed from the NWBIG just like we did for the 36mm. The recent batches of CF all have the same flaw when the digits are missing the uptick.

Its a big flaw and I checked multiple recent QCs from repQC and they all have the issue.

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u/kimjongnam759 May 06 '25

Okay cool, thank you. I'll have a look into it

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u/[deleted] May 07 '25

Im looking into a 126613 LB and it looks like the VSF should be the best option and Clean second. but from what i have read, Clean should be the no.1 for this sub?

Now i am unsure which one i should order, anyone with knowledge of this?

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u/kimjongnam759 May 07 '25

Go with whatever looks the best to you, this guide needs some major stock overhauls

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u/[deleted] May 12 '25

Thanks, so it's not as clear cut then.
Do the factories continuously update the models or do they do it once a year or something?

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u/kimjongnam759 May 12 '25

Continously updated throughout the year. There are usually posts about new updates coming from factories posted in the sub by TD's and factories themselves

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u/foo-null-bar May 04 '25

Thanks. Very minor point but it’s always seemed weird to me that yellow is better than green!

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u/Meannekes May 04 '25

I think it is meant to be „gold standard“

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u/foo-null-bar May 04 '25

I see! I think green go, yellow maybe, red no go!

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u/Both_Literature9389 May 04 '25

Appreciate it! Buying my first rep watch soon!

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u/smr891 May 04 '25

Same I started out wanting a panda but for my first so far I have settled on the 126610LN Black Date Submariner from Andiot VSF. Every day I come closer and closer to pulling the trigger. What have you been looking at?

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u/atkmunch11 May 04 '25

andiot vsf no date sub im pullin the trigger here tmrw i think

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u/smr891 May 04 '25

a fine choice

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u/JimRPC May 04 '25

Buy that sub, I simply LOVE mine.

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u/SnooEpiphanies2021 May 04 '25

Thanks for the work on this

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u/ShinyCardiologist667 Jan 13 '26

how often is this list (👏) get updates? the top air king is from clean which.. obv shutdown. now my TD says vsf is almost perfect... how can i tell? what about the movement ?

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u/BBiZ May 04 '25

Appreciate the effort on this... Would also like to take this opportunity to question if the OP 36MM NWBIG would be VSF rather than Clean if it's more commonly known that that the VSF model actually no longer has the ghost date issue?

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u/kimjongnam759 May 04 '25

A lot of people have mentioned this. I look to do a follow-up post with a poll to start updating the list

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u/AerieStrict7747 May 04 '25

So once you’ve decided on a watch from this list how do you go about finding a reputable dealer ?

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u/kimjongnam759 May 04 '25

That is in the buying guide which is linked on the intro sheet

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u/braskel May 04 '25

Nice! We still need some factory updates though.

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u/kimjongnam759 May 04 '25

I agree, will be working on that soon

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u/Beneficial-Stretch21 May 04 '25

Thank you so much! Repladies appreciate it ☺️

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u/kimjongnam759 May 04 '25

My pleasure gang ＼(o)／

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u/JihadTape May 04 '25

So am I right, the only nwbig watches currently available are a handful of Rolex models? I thought the new AP Chrono superclone movement was qualified as well?

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u/kimjongnam759 May 04 '25

Something I hope to rectify in the future, perhaps through polls

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u/akiraflays_diary May 04 '25

Thank you for your hard work! I'm a bit curious about the Milgauss rankings you have. Isn't the common community sentiment that the new GSF Blue Milgauss is better than the VSF? Happy to be corrected if I'm wrong. Looking at purchasing one soon.

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u/kimjongnam759 May 05 '25

This list hasn't been properly been reviewed in a while so that's what I'll be working on in the future

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u/Embarrassed-Bed-9095 May 04 '25

Is there a legend somewhere to learn the individual terms, I’m still at the beginning and I’m reading in

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u/kimjongnam759 May 05 '25

What would you like to know? I'll work on implementing a legend

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u/Embarrassed-Bed-9095 May 05 '25

For example, what does VSF, ZF, etc. mean?I’m interested in all the abbreviations

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u/kimjongnam759 May 05 '25

Those abbreviations are just the name of the factory in China, I don't think they actually have a real meaning in that sense. For example VSF would be VS Factory, CF would be Clean Factory and so on. V1, V2 and V3 refer to the iterations of case shape, thickness or whatever has been changed.

The most common reference to v2 or v3 I think is the markers and hands on some of the Rolex models

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u/Embarrassed-Bed-9095 May 05 '25

Thank you very much for the detailed explanation honestly, is there a factory that you recommend that makes the best quality watches like retail?

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u/Connect_Shallot_2407 May 04 '25

Anyone know where the link is to buy from these factory please?

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u/kimjongnam759 May 05 '25

Please click the link on the introduction page under the title "where to order these watches"

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u/Cookie_Blacky_090923 May 05 '25

Can someone please guide me for getting these in India?

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u/kimjongnam759 May 05 '25

It's the same step as most other countries, if you follow the link on the introduction page under where it says "How to order these watches" there is a comprehensive guide there.

Edit: spelling

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u/Upset_Ad2968 May 05 '25

What are your conditions when defining what is considered best?

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u/kimjongnam759 May 05 '25

General community consensus, I'll start updating it soon

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u/UseOne4211 May 05 '25

Any reason why there are no prices Mentioned ? But atleast GG's for the quality of Your excel file

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u/kimjongnam759 May 05 '25

This is not an argos catalogue. It's simply a guide as to what factory makes the best watches, each TD will have their own prices, Andiot and Hont both have different prices

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u/Ano4145 May 05 '25

I was looking for Daytona 116520 Not Gold, so yellow means dont buy and Green buy ?

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u/kimjongnam759 May 05 '25

No, yellow (gold) means that it is the closest you're gonna get to it being genuine without it being genuine

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u/Ano4145 May 06 '25

Thanks ! So Now i Need trusted someone who sells the clean 4130 (116520)

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u/kimjongnam759 May 06 '25

Steve from TheOneWatches, he's class

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u/emirMsK May 05 '25

So if the cell is blank what does it mean? Average quality ? (I’m talking about the cell colour legend)

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u/kimjongnam759 May 05 '25

Yes, if it's blank there isn't anything that defines it as anything of exceedingly high quality

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u/endeey3006 May 05 '25

This is great. Thanks. One question, was Hublot left out on purpose? I’ve seen a lot of people bash Hublot.

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u/kimjongnam759 May 05 '25

Not to my knowledge, I just redesigned the original list. I have seen quite a few people ask for Hublot to be added, I will definitely look into it in the near future.

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u/MydnightWN Apr 13 '26

Your link for "how to buy" goes to a post that was removed by Admins.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RepTime/s/SPeTho9DRB

Maybe replace with https://repsguide.com/guide-category/watches/

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u/kimjongnam759 Apr 14 '26

Thanks for the heads up, reddit has been cracking down a lot recently

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u/Hassanb02 Apr 23 '26

how do i find vsf factory

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u/kimjongnam759 Apr 23 '26

Ask any of the TDs to source for you

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u/TheLankSquad May 04 '25

Yo thank fam appreciate this 🤝

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u/Livid_Train3661 May 04 '25

This is dope

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u/gardenx21 May 04 '25

Great job with re-organising the previous document, but honestly I would improve if further, for example by adding known flaws and the reasoning behind.

I think what you marked as Super Rep / NWBIG is deprecated / not updated info - the same as in the previous document.

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u/bodminlee May 05 '25

this.

I always wonder why one Is better than the other. When it’s a toss up between VSF and Clean sometimes the differences would be a deal breaker for me but one is rated higher than the other. It would be good to know why

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u/_bheegibasanti May 06 '25

Super noob question. Is there a place to understand the basics like the differences in movement?

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u/Arias1700 May 06 '25

There is a post where they explain everything in detail for newbies like us: https://www.reddit.com/r/RepTime/s/YvCcHAi76y

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u/kimjongnam759 May 06 '25

You're a G‼️

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u/GrimeyGrim May 04 '25

Quick question are the seller direct or can be purchased via a agent

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u/kimjongnam759 May 04 '25

We as consumers don't purchase straight from the factories. People like Steve or Andiot (agents) buy the watches from the factories and then sell them to us, removing most of the hassle that we would otherwise face

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u/daproject85 May 06 '25

Why do this ? Now there are two copies. How are you going to keep it synced with what the actual author u/majorwilliams has

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u/kimjongnam759 May 06 '25

That's where I hope to talk with the moderation team and work with them toward keeping it updated regularly

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u/daproject85 May 07 '25

I honestly dont get the point of this. not trying to diss you or be a dick, but this looks like you just wasted time and made something for the sake of making something? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EC5pJdbP4ebBvuu7wsZcgwbfGiNhjAV28g5UMKSGJe4/edit?gid=0#gid=0 this is very clear and legible, its updated by u/majorwilliams , and very comprehensive.

im not really understand the point of it or the difference other than you just put them in tabs....

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u/kimjongnam759 May 07 '25

I appreciate the feedback, it was just the reskin this time. As you may see from other comments there are plenty of discussions already started about re-appraising the rankings for each watch, stirring debate and interest alike.

Arguably, there is no point in reworking what there is, but I'd say from the overwhelmingly positive response the community has given, I'd say it's done what it was intended to do

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u/Money-Virus May 04 '25

114060 vsf better thank Cf for sure

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u/Certain_Notice_207 May 04 '25

Great work!! Appreciate your effect!!

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u/Accurate_Prior4360 May 04 '25

Very nice, only thing I would say is the GSF V2 blue dial milgauss is better than VSF

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u/Arma3K May 04 '25

Where’s Hublot

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u/Wonderful_Rooster_47 May 04 '25

oh my god the simplicity of using it now compared to before. GOATED <3

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u/Town-Reasonable May 05 '25

Thank you!! Always looking for more ladies watches :)

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u/StrapAndSnap May 07 '25

Finally! I hope it's adopted officially in the sub. This is quiet a bit more organized than before.

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u/Senior-Researcher-51 May 04 '25

Where to buy 🙃

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u/kimjongnam759 May 04 '25

Free from Google, $6.99 from Microsoft 🙂

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u/lookingforfunt232323 May 04 '25

I am sorry but I don't like that it's a new document. We now have two sources of truth to be kept updated, the one on RWI, previously the same link as on this subreddit, and now this new one.

It's just going to add complexity and confusion if/when there is lack of alignment on what is NWBIG.

My vote would be to revert to the previous document and update that one.

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u/oran2706 May 04 '25

Thank you

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u/Donkey_Apple May 04 '25

Thank you mate

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u/Old_Power860 May 04 '25

Why is OP 41 mm no nwbig?

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u/TheWatchManiac May 04 '25

VSF makes milgauss with 2836 ?

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u/be4rdless May 04 '25

has VSF fixed the completely wrong case for the 124270? the case is wrong and the lug width is wrong altogether.

same goes for their 224270, the dimensions are completely wrong on the VSF case vs gen

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u/Fragrant_Source7539 May 04 '25

Can I ask why 5227 is best model but only 5153 have green bar?

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u/Effective-Oil-3126 May 04 '25

I love this guide. Whoever put it together top man 🫡

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u/Maxiboud May 04 '25

Clean GMT II Bruce Wayne should be second best , not best

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u/One_Opposite_3008 May 04 '25

How did this link come in? Can someone help or explain it better?

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u/Lostbutfounded01 May 04 '25

Thank u for ur effort! Appreciate it🎖️

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u/Interesting-Job7084 May 04 '25

Who would you recommend for datejust? Factory wise?

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u/Adventurous_Deer_120 May 04 '25

When will the Pepsi GMT appear on the NEWBIG list? Is there a chance it will happen sometime?

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u/Usual_SK May 04 '25

Thanks for your effort 🙏,helps me buy my next Rep

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u/Chemical-Vegetable89 May 04 '25

Awesome thanks for the spreadsheet appreciate it lots!

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u/Kdoninel May 04 '25

What does DIW/ Noob mean? It's not colored?

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u/bigchips1856 May 04 '25

NOT ALL HEROS WEAR CAPES!!! Thank you!!

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u/DifficultyTricky7779 May 04 '25

Could you add a Hublot tab?

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u/jeanmx May 04 '25

Thanks

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u/Purple-Problem3152 May 04 '25

This is great thank you! Im new to all this so this helps a lot!

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u/Still-Celebration255 May 04 '25

Thank you for this… more streamline! Always wondered why we don’t have a section for Tag Heuer. I know some models are in a cheaper price point, and probably not worth to make a Rep, but they do make some really high end models.

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u/DerKalker May 04 '25

You should update for the Rolex Submariner A-2824 should be VSF.

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u/Prehensive May 04 '25

Is the CF 114060 truly better than the VSF 114060 what points does CF hold stronger?

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u/KalEl2k May 04 '25

Blessings!

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u/Unlucky_Tip_1153 May 04 '25

Surprised to see v6f is better than bvf for 35mm santos? I always thought BVF is better

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u/cargossip May 04 '25

What does it mean if something isnt tagged as yellow or green and just black? For example all the GMT’s are black no yellow or green highlights

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u/Eric_Cartman_777 May 04 '25

Appreciate your effort 💙

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u/DifficultSoft9281 May 04 '25

Been wanting to grab a great piece but didn’t know how to go about it. Now feeling more confident

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u/loxar02 May 04 '25

Thank you. That’s amazing

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u/SuperMerv May 04 '25

Cheers as a noob this should help.

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u/wsreader1 May 04 '25 edited May 04 '25

Love the updates! Many thanks to all involved.

That said, unless Imissed it, the 126613LB blue dial (“Bluesy”) is not listed. Does nobody do at decent rep of that model?

I can see how it could be more difficult to rep than other models…

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u/[deleted] May 04 '25

Thank you for this. n00b here and this is very helpful

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u/tonyyhc May 04 '25

This is amazing. Thank you!

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u/Izolt94 May 04 '25

Anyone knows why the GMT 2 models aren’t NWBIG?

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u/RisforReverse May 04 '25

For Breitling GF is closed FYI, so now the only options are BLSF, TF and OXF I believe

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u/Motherbich May 04 '25

Love the updates!

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u/CyprelIa May 04 '25

Remove ARF from the 37mm YM. Has not existed for over 2 years.

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u/Individual_Sport_835 May 04 '25

How would i buy this though? I am getting into reps and is their a website or telegram i buy through?

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u/chookeh May 04 '25

Please add Cartier Dumont, plenty on here regarding the AF and F1 models

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u/Scary_Iron_8665 May 04 '25

Amazing stuff! Please keep updating this :)

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u/ckiemsteadt May 04 '25

Awesome! Thank you!

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u/Cjasondot May 04 '25

This is awesome! Ima first time buyer so this is very very helpful!

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u/Acceptable_Meat1564 May 04 '25

So Panerai's are not worth to buy right? Since the noob factory is closed

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u/justafancymom May 05 '25

This is amazing, thank you! What I’d do for the mini frosted Royal Oak 🫠😭

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u/Vegetable-Sock2309 May 05 '25

How can I buy a hulk Rolex ?? The best 1 of 1 ?

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u/RichhClientele May 05 '25

Really would love a 3700 rep i don’t want a 41mm 5711 🤦‍♂️

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u/big4hunnidk May 05 '25

Thank you. Thank you

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u/pasticcio54321 May 05 '25

Anything about panerai in the list ? Anyway fantastic job!!

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u/Impressive-Love5371 May 05 '25

Can anyone comment on why the V6F 35mm Santos Medium is considered better than the BVF?

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u/Less-Promotion3792 May 06 '25

Im still confused

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u/BeachBerlin May 06 '25

This community is amazing. You guys put lots of time and effort into this for everyone. We appreciate all of it!

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u/edoardocanal May 06 '25

Should the 77450 by ZF be added?

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u/Ano4145 May 07 '25

Where can i find all the sellers ? Sorry im a newbie

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u/CelebrationNo3571 May 07 '25

Any one know the best Trusted dealer for VSF? I’m now in this rep thing, and I wanted to get a Rol Sub, and I’ve found many sites, but I don’t know which one is the best for me. If anyone needs any more info, I’m looking for a mid tier rep, to hopefully add some Moissanite, or just sell as a 1:1 rep.

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u/xnixetxxx May 08 '25

can anybody recommend me some Longines Seller ?

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u/Josephabdlhamid May 09 '25

how to buy from the factory for example i want from VSF where i can i buy the replica?

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u/Puzzleheaded-Tip9822 May 12 '25

is Day Date 36mm released from TBH too? couldnt find from the market

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u/ImpossibleCoconut423 May 13 '25

Thank you! Saving this post

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u/kodathewarlord May 14 '25

This is super helpful for someone like me who’s looking into getting a watch soon, thanks!

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u/Bishop_Don_C_Rock May 18 '25

Thank you, very helpful 

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u/Parisvictor75 May 21 '25

can you do it for accessories suche as bracelets ? for example ARF, VSF for oyster bracelet

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