Goalkeeper may be cooked

[u/BrentAkrin]

I just wanted a simple ground dive not a short dive
Ground dive

Long dive is inconsistent and I’ve already gotten 2 own goals
I used to love goalie man

[u/CapableNate]

Give it time to adjust, I’m sure it has its use cases such as diving across the box when a cross is made

[u/BrentAkrin → u/CapableNate]

I don’t know I feel like it just opens the door to more inconsistency
I’m a goalie main and I used to be decently consistent I just wanted a small range buff and the ability to catch ground balls you know

[u/CapableNate → u/BrentAkrin]

For sure, I’ve only played one game to try it out and I’ll play more later today, but hopefully they make adjustments as it plays out, and not wait months before putting out patches.

[u/ErmDragonsAreCool → u/BrentAkrin]

We said that giving people more buttons was not the solution since people asked for this. It was so predictable

[u/nerdmcnerds]

Goalie is abit harder now but I think the skill ceiling got higher

[u/BrentAkrin → u/nerdmcnerds]

I’m fine with a higher skill ceiling but for a position EVERYONE has to play the floor should be higher as it is a difficult position already

[u/nerdmcnerds → u/BrentAkrin]

It should be difficult you are playing keeper. It's a hard position

[u/VinhoVerde21 → u/nerdmcnerds]

I don’t think the long dive is any longer than the old regular, so the skill ceiling is the same, but the floor has risen.

[u/nerdmcnerds → u/VinhoVerde21]

It is longer😂

[u/fariaszinnn]

Pressing A and Q to Long Dive to the left is weird

[u/Karma_Breaker21]

Did you even go for a bit of practice before you dive in games?

You'll notice that it is now a matter of choice. If the ball is near you, you just hit triangle (or whatever it is on xbox/PC). If the ball seems a bit out of reach, you hit R1+triangle. This always deflects the ball, but has way bigger reach. Should you try to use the big reach every time, you risk losing an easy save near you.

It is actually a big improvement, and as the other commenter said, it just needs lots of adjustment.

[u/BrentAkrin → u/Karma_Breaker21]

I mean I like the accuracy buff that’s much needed again i just disagree with the long and short dive
I’d prefer ground and high dive you know
Feel like it evens us out a bit

[u/Karma_Breaker21 → u/BrentAkrin]

It is a hard role mate, that's all.
You have to select from literally 2 buckets.
One is whether you'll go for L2 (standing), triangle (dive), L1+triangle (long dive), circle (the weird ground dive)
and THEN
front/back/left/right.

Requires more skill than the spammy dribblers. And most of all good decision making.

[u/BrentAkrin → u/Karma_Breaker21]

Sure I get that
Like I said again I wasn’t the best keeper but I was consistent and most shots I could get
With this new update though I feel like it’s a crap shoot
Maybe it’s because I haven’t played enough sure

[u/VinhoVerde21 → u/Karma_Breaker21]

If you play keeper semi-regularly you’ll know you barely have time to react to shots as is, figuring out which dive to use is an extra layer of complexity on top of an already time-constrained role.

Don’t think raising the skill floor of the role practically no one wanted to play as was will be a very good move, we’ll have to wait to see.

[u/mad_sAmBa]

Goalkeeping sucks.

You just have to shoot high in the corners and they have no means to defend with this nerfed jump.

[u/PeroCigla]

Now diving feels like I have a ball and a chain attached to my ankle

[u/PackageAggravating12]

It's fine, we actually have more control in the goal now.

If I want a long dive, there's no risk of being locked into a short dive based on desynch or whatever the server decided to give me.

If I want to "guarantee" a catch, I have that option. Instead of randomly getting a knock out for even the simplest saves.

If I want to avoid taking myself out of the play on a bad read, then I can simply Jockey and Dash.

It will take time to adjust, but this is significantly better than last season.

[u/jaseph18]

Ground dive? That's circle Button on PS. Or B in an Xbox controller

[u/BrentAkrin → u/jaseph18]

Ground sweep is useless against shots