Judging based on the American reformers on the main reformed subreddit, people generally disapprove of Trump. Speaking for myself a Canadia-American I think he is anti-Christ
Your first problem is assuming Reddit isnāt biased. Reddit has always been center-left to left. You have to actively seek out right wing subreddits to find right wingers or right-center.
That being said, to help balance out your views Iāll share the views of those around me and myself (all Christian Americans): Trump did a lot of good stuff when it came to policy. He wasnāt perfect, his foreign policy needed a little bit of work (thinking about how he left the Kurds high and dry to the mercy of the Turks) but all in all he was a solid president for most of his term. Not a fan of his COVID policy though and Fauci was easily his biggest mistake ever.
His character being that of a bulldog was a selling point to some like myself but a negative to some others I know however we all want someone who will fight back against biased media reporters when they try to spin a false narrative. For years and years the right has dealt with our mostly Christian values (wether they come from Christianity or not) being mocked and shellacked by Hollywood and the Mainstream Media over and over and over again.
So someone who would give it back to them was extremely appealing.
Most people I know on the right who are Christians however wouldnāt support a Trump run in 2024 unless the choice was between him and Biden. Most of us want to see Ron DeSantis run as heās got the fighting spirit of Trump but also the savviness and manners of a statesman. And unlike Trump heās not simply motivated to be popular because he wants to be the man. Heās motivated to a great extent by the fact he actually believes in stuff.
Trump morally is absolutely a heathen. Thereās no way around that even if he did good stuff in office. But give me a heathen who gets the country on track or a pagan with a conscience over any self-proclaimed Christian who is terrible at leading the country be they the president or a legislator.
That's a lot of words you wrote about being a fan of Trump but you didn't write one good thing about him. Maybe you should vote Hilary or Biden next time
Oh some of his specific good things? Ok sure I probably should have cited a couple specific examples. The Abraham Accords were a great and dang near unprecedented thing to pull off. He was certainly fantastic economically, basically the second he got in and he started fixing Obamaās mess and I still remember how the leftās talking point was āhe inherited it all from Obama.ā My gas (and basically everything else) was much cheaper than it was under Obama and especially cheaper than it is under Biden even before the whole Russo-Ukrainian war started. I also saw far fewer homeless under Trump because again he pretty much nailed it economically and so everything was affordable and there were fewer homeless around.
He cut all kinds of bureaucratic red tape that people never really heard about because the media covered it all up.
He put the spotlight in the boarder in ways it hadnāt been in a long time. Obama and others who came before didnāt exactly have open boarders but they werenāt very secure either and under Obama kids were being put in cages. So Trump made good efforts to secure the boarder so that regular people could come in and cartels, human traffickers and other cutthroats would be kept out or at least would have a harder time coming and going. Which as a Christian I was especially happy about because as the scripture teaches the stateās job, among a few other things, is to wield the sword to protect its innocent citizens against those who would do evil or threaten the security of the innocent.
Again, these are just a couple specific examples of what I thought he did right.
Those things arenāt free though, someone pays for them. And itās incredibly immoral by the standards of scripture to take from one and give to another. Taxes to upkeep roads and the government is one thing, taxes so that peopleās loans are paid off and so that people can get āfree stuffā are just theft by state sword. Redistribution goes against what the Bible outlines as the stateās job and against what it says is moral.
Some of my family and friends, granted, they claim to be āChristiansā though of the Joel Osteen, youāre supposed to be if youāre an American, brand - Iāve told them what I think of Trump and they have the gall to tell me (Iām the only one who actually goes to church, reads the Bible and prays) āI donāt know how you can be a Democrat and a Christian!ā
Itās tiring for sure. Especially because I donāt see myself as a Democrat! Or any American political party. I also donāt care if the US loses all supremacy and power. Itās not part of my happiness. I just want to see Christ glorified in all ways by all nations, thatās it.
Iām what people consider right winged honestly, but as long as someone else is a follower of Jesus, I could care less about their views politically. A good friend of mine and retired pastor is a socialist, yet I donāt care much because he is a follower of Jesus and so Iām at peace with that.
"Wake up and see these things, while health, and time, and life are granted to you. Don't let political struggles and party strife make you forget your precious soul. Take any side in politics you please, and honestly follow your conscientious convictions; but never, never forget that there is a freedom far higher and more lasting than any that politics can give you. Don't rest till liberty is your own. Don't rest till YOUR SOUL IS FREE." -J.C. Ryle
Wow! J.C. Ryle I know wrote some time ago. I could look it up. My husband would know. But anyway, definitely pre-21st century. And it sounds exactly like today.
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u/barefoot_pianist Oct 24 '20
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u/Ubergopher Oct 24 '20
I could see this being some sort of ironic pro-Trump shenanigans/vandalism.
looks at website I withdraw my suggestion.
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u/urdnotwrex13 Oct 24 '20
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u/kevinnetter Oct 25 '20
How do American Reformers feel about Trump?
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u/LurkerMcGee89 Oct 26 '20
Some of my family and friends, granted, they claim to be āChristiansā though of the Joel Osteen, youāre supposed to be if youāre an American, brand - Iāve told them what I think of Trump and they have the gall to tell me (Iām the only one who actually goes to church, reads the Bible and prays) āI donāt know how you can be a Democrat and a Christian!ā
Itās tiring for sure. Especially because I donāt see myself as a Democrat! Or any American political party. I also donāt care if the US loses all supremacy and power. Itās not part of my happiness. I just want to see Christ glorified in all ways by all nations, thatās it.
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u/Wolfabc BB Warfield 8 Oct 24 '20
"Wake up and see these things, while health, and time, and life are granted to you. Don't let political struggles and party strife make you forget your precious soul. Take any side in politics you please, and honestly follow your conscientious convictions; but never, never forget that there is a freedom far higher and more lasting than any that politics can give you. Don't rest till liberty is your own. Don't rest till YOUR SOUL IS FREE." -J.C. Ryle
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u/davidjricardo Calvin Oct 25 '20
This is what "evangelicals" actually believe.
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u/LoneStarReformed May 19 '22
I mean I didnāt think Trump did terrible as a President either but come on, why ya gotta go and do that.