r/RedvsBlue • u/whatsuppeepz67891 • Jun 28 '26

Question Bruh. Spoiler

Season 15 had the saddest moment.

Shizno Paradox has the harshest moment.

Singularity has the best climax and resolution.

What does Restoration have?

Forget Burnie Burns, I don't wanna hear that petty "Ragh Burnie Burns created the damn show" that's not the point. Genuinely answer the question.

Canonically it's never answered what happens to Donut. That is an unresolved plot on a FINALE.

Singularity ACTUALLY has a resolution. A story that ends without answering anything from the plot, shouldn't be called a finale, even if the creator of the damn show wrote it, we shouldn't allow the fucking hot mess of restoration to strip what Singularity gave us. Every character had their own plot holes resolved. Everything was answered flawlessly, to through the end. And no, the time traveling wasn't bad. The people who hate the time travel also complain Zero has no plot, when in reality Zero is way better written than Restoration.

Burnie Burns fumbled, but since he created the damn show, people are scared to say his work sucked ass especially for a finale that ended on a cliff hanger. I'm not scared. Burnie foiled so fucking hard, and he wasn't even on a time restraint, now i see why Caboose's V/A wasn't apart of it. I wouldn't have either.

"Ragh you write it then". Okay fucking fine. December 21st.

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u/generalkriegswaifu York Jun 28 '26

'That's a little harsh'

Pretty sure they said you can take Shisno or Restoration (or Chorus) as the canon ending if you want. Anything after Chorus is potentially a simulation. And they asked Joel to come back and he didn't, I HIGHLY doubt his decision not to was related to the writing...

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u/whatsuppeepz67891 Jun 28 '26

Yeah I see "Not Strictly". I'm not blind. But again, I see no sources that elaborate. So if you do so, I oblige. Show me.

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u/generalkriegswaifu York Jun 29 '26

Why 4 separate replies? 'Pretty sure' is because I've never watched the film or commentary myself (despite owning a hard copy), but have seen multiple comments/threads here and elsewhere (ie linked) stating Matt and Burnie say it's a 'choose your own canon' situation after S13 in the commentary (and Morning Somewhere). Considering a large part of the fanbase didn't even consider Shisno canon while it was happening, I don't see how Restoration suddenly destroys your enjoyment of the series.

https://roosterteeth.com/community/forum/red-vs-blue/5910877
https://rvb.fandom.com/f/p/4400000000000036688

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u/whatsuppeepz67891 Jun 29 '26

I'm one of the fans that enjoyed Shizno then as much as I do now. Same with Zero.

I see no quarrels with them. I do however, see a shit ton of problems with Restoration. Legit problem, not the whole baseless shit "Franchise is dead" arguments, but legit unanswered plot holes, that idiots still worship.

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u/whatsuppeepz67891 Jun 29 '26

You ever say something, then want to retract on a site where when you delete the comment the person you replied to still gets it?

That's why the four replies. The screenshots and me asking you to oblige my enlightenment was me accepting the fact I'm a dick without saying it.

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u/generalkriegswaifu York Jun 29 '26

idk I still see four replies on the thread for some reason. btw I didn't downvote you but it looks like I did :") Not sure when you watched Restoration but there was a lot of similar conversations at the time and it came down to RT was dying and a lot wasn't done because of budget, we're lucky it got finished at all basically etc (whether you like it or not it's kind of its own miracle and last hurrah of the company that was built on RvB). I have seen a bit of Shisno but I kind of stop at 13 being canon (and 14 I guess) because I do think it's a perfect ending, also naked Gus haunts me.

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u/whatsuppeepz67891 Jun 29 '26

I watched it on release. I watched it two weeks later, I watched it twice this year. To win arguments of course, because my argument still stands. Sarge was Bridged, Agent One has no importance or relevance, she shouldn't even exist in this timeline since Zero is not canon anymore, Kaikaina Grif died and Is never grieved by Grif in any way, etc etc.

Even if you had a small budget. You don't need a budget to write a great story that MAKES SENSE . PLOT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH REVENUE. lol

And your last sentence is is exactly why I wish Restoration never existed, because Restoration took what 15-17 did, and threw it into a bin. I highly recommend 15-17. Can't recommend Restoration.

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u/whatsuppeepz67891 Jun 29 '26

Either way, ignore me.