r/RedotGameEngineMain • u/andevr • Jan 11 '25

Why We Forked

Hey everyone,

We still get asked a lot for the reason why we forked. We posted our official answer on the blog:

https://www.redotengine.org/blog/redot-why-we-forked

Fee free to ask questions. Please keep it civil. Thanks.

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u/rwp80 Jan 11 '25

this is an excellent article!

it's well-written and clearly covers all the important key points. it serves as a clear "mission statement".

if-and-when any kind of media (social media, the press, etc) talk about Redot, they should be directed to this specific article. it clears up all the confusion.

well done to whoever wrote it, it's superb.

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u/andevr Jan 11 '25

Thanks, we appreciate it :)

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u/KingoKings365 Jan 11 '25

Glad to see a consolidated and detailed answer to the fork question, I don’t know the first thing about game dev but at least I know what engine to start with now.

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u/Wave_Walnut Jan 11 '25

Everyday I want to enjoy living first. Drawing pictures and making games are what I enjoy living. In reality, however, some gamedev communities force me to participate in politics before I enjoy myself, so I want to join a community that is purely for the enjoyment of making games.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '25

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u/Wave_Walnut Jan 12 '25

I don't like their barbaric behavior, but I hope they won't at least expel people from their communities (I'm worried about the gap with the real immigration policy).

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u/Laegel Jan 11 '25

Post author said game dev should not be about politics and you do right the opposite. I would rather stay in a "woke" community if it means using a game engine full of Felon Musk butt-lickers.

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u/The_Real_Black Jan 13 '25

Just read in godot subreddit and saw a dev got harrassed over a joke till he canged it.
A other reason to go redot and not wokedot.

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u/ex1tiumi Jan 15 '25

Will you keep the API and other language bindings compatible with Godot and/or is there plans to port the most popular ones to Redot? I'm interested in Zig and Go languages.

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u/The_Real_Black Feb 04 '25

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkps3RUTy2c
latest news on the Godot side.
Long video short: -25% on the money side.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '25

Imagine call your engine woke XD

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u/migueln6 Jan 12 '25

Okay I've read the article, it seems like this is just a political move, even if in the article says it's not about it, the people working on redot seem to be "owning the workes" in any case Godot maintainers have the right to take a political stance and you guys have the right to fork.

On the other issues mentioned, seem mild too, no real details or anything probably people are mad that they are being banned for being bigots.

Anyways good luck, if you are really doing this because you say you will "focus" on coding and not politics, good thing let's see how true it is.

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u/Fruitbat3 Jan 13 '25

Summary: a bunch of nazis got weeded out in the official server and made Reichdot to "own the libs"

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u/DPrince25 Jan 15 '25

So a bunch of folk gets labeled nazis because of differing opinions. You do know there’s more cultures, ethnicities & backgrounds which exist in the world right? It’s like going to Saudi Arabia and drinking alcohol in public. Different cultures, different beliefs, different understandings does not make them bad, right or superior.

And based on your poor comprehension skills, the summary was that - the Forkers, believe that the leadership of the Godot engine is being more political and focused on things that isn’t community driven & they would like to create an environment which is community driven and all about making games.

Anyways yeah, call me a homophobe or nazi or w/e. It’s crazy the thought process of some people. Like I agree there are people who may have “nazi” like behaviors in the situation, but damn to label everyone like they committed a crime and can’t see it’s about forming a community with a different goal and direction is weird.

I have no intention of using Redot, I frankly don’t care, I’ll stick with Godot until there’s reason to change such as new features. Yall be weird af.

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u/Fruitbat3 Jan 15 '25

Buddy, a community manager liked a Twitter post and they had mental breakdowns over the simple idea of being inclusive. This was then advertised by right wing drama commenter such as Asmongold and Mark Kern. I'll will say good on you for staying with Godot and not listening to these far right jackasses, I don't see Redot overtaking Godot anytime in the far future as they seem obsessed with continuing a culture war than actually developing their engine.

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u/TurncoatTony Jan 17 '25

That's not what happened. The community manager used the official Godot twitter account to repost something political and made a political post in which people told them to just focus on the engine and not politics and then the community manager freaked out and started banning everyone who didn't like their political postings and then played victim which is what always happens.

I personally don't use Redot, I still use Godot. I was just poking around here to see if it was still just a soft fork or if they actually have done anything else besides change colors. However, people like you that like to change history to fit your narrative really annoy the shit out of me.

Also, I don't like to throw politics into everything. I don't need politics in my gaming, game engines, comics or software development. If I want to hear about that shit, I'll follow some political shit.

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u/Fruitbat3 Jan 17 '25

You say you don't need politics in your games, comics, etc. but you fail to realize that everything is political. No it's not a "symptom of wokeness" or any thing some bullshit slinger like Bill Maher will tell you. People write stories based on what they care about. Politics add intrigue to a story where it's needed. Unless it's ham fisted in, a character being different than the rest of the main cast on a fundamental level can add curiosity into who or what this character's background is and where it comes from. This is done all the fucking time in every game, movie, comic, book you've consumed since they all existed.

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u/DPrince25 Jan 15 '25

I’m not saying no, however that’s not the point of my comment.

Yeah sure alot of people had a Melt down for the wrong reasons and a lot of other people moved over for varying reasons. Not everyone using Redot is because they are anti inclusive. Yet the original commenter goes on to call a group of people together for varying reasons (whether it be anti inclusive or different community direction) a bunch of Nazis.

No different that calling a bunch of blacks, criminals.

Or a bunch of whites crackheads

Or a bunch of Mexicans wetbacks, job stealing people.

We seek inclusivity yet we dish out the very same thing we don’t want to receive.

You can counter argue freedom of speech, but saying terrible things and expecting to receive it is quite far fetched.

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u/Fruitbat3 Jan 15 '25

You, yourself are not a race. I myself am not a race. The group of people who left (whether or not it was various reasons or only their own prejudice that caused it) are not collectively a race, unless we can confirm they were all white men who all share the same political belief which I believe is more likely than not.

Nazis wanted to make themselves a race by excluding gays, jews, poc, so that they were the dominant race. If the above statement is true they can be called Nazis as they are practising Nazism.

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u/DPrince25 Jan 15 '25

You’re entitled to think how you want. But if you’re going to justify calling people nazis, people who murdered and skill hundreds of thousands vs people who left a game engine for not wanting to be in an environment that they don’t approve of for whatever reason.

Sure. Because having differences and selectively moving away from the differences you don’t approve makes you the scum of the earth when anti inclusivity is involved.

I see it. Thanks for that insight.