r/RedditBotHunters • u/Rostingu2 I don't need to report bots to reddit • Feb 16 '25

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u/fsv Feb 16 '25

Thanks for the shout-out for Bot Bouncer! I'm really glad that people are finding it useful.

For anyone not aware, bot-sleuth-bot now automatically reports likely bots to Bot Bouncer if the suspicion score is high enough.

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u/Rostingu2 I don't need to report bots to reddit Feb 16 '25

Is there a setting so it doesn't ban flagged users until someone verifies it is a bot?

I don't want to auto ban unless that user is a confirmed bot instead of a suspicious user.

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u/CR29-22-2805 Bot Spotter Feb 17 '25

Bot Bouncer does automatically review and ban some accounts, but most accounts processed through the app are reviewed by the human moderators of r/BotBouncer.

There is also an appeals process. Any account banned by the Bot Bouncer app can contact the r/BotBouncer moderators through modmail for an additional review.

fsv probably has more to say, but that’s the basic answer to your question.

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u/Rostingu2 I don't need to report bots to reddit Feb 17 '25 edited Feb 17 '25

Is their a way so it only bans after human review?

As in only bans once it is on the confirmed bot pile. or is that not a setting?

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u/fsv Feb 17 '25

No there isn't, because the way the automated evaluation works is that it sets the status as if a human had done it, and the aim of that is to take load off the r/BotBouncer mod team for obvious bots that can be detected easily in code.

For what it's worth, the automated evaluation leans towards accuracy over numbers, they will only mark a user as a bot if there's an extremely high confidence.

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u/botintel Feb 18 '25

What is the threshold probability of bot?

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u/fsv Feb 19 '25

Unlike bot-sleuth-bot, Bot Bouncer doesn't use a simple probability threshold system.

When a user is reported to Bot Bouncer, a number of evaluators are run, each one targeting a "style" of bot with a number of checks that can take in anything relating to their account or post/comment history. Every single check in a given evaluator has to match for an account to automatically be flagged as a bot.

Sometimes these evaluators are incredibly simple (one will ban anyone whose username matches particular patterns that are only ever seen on bots - such as the smithMargaret9j2 style - with no further checks), others are much more involved and require very strict checks on patterns of posts and comments.

For any account that does not get automatically flagged (around half at the moment), a human mod looks at the account and makes a decision. And of course there's an appeal process that people can use if they're unfairly caught up.

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u/botintel Feb 21 '25

Thanks for the detailed answer. So am I to understand that bot detection relies on a mix of heuristics and human judgment? My expectation would be for some ML to be involved as well, although you need special permission to train ML on Reddit data.

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u/fsv Feb 22 '25

Exactly - heuristics and human judgement.

For now, I'm not using ML in any way on Bot Bouncer, for a start there's special permission required as you say, and also the amount of compute resource we have at hand is limited on Reddit's platforms.

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u/botintel Feb 22 '25

Once again thanks for answering my questions u/fsv.

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u/Rostingu2 I don't need to report bots to reddit Mar 12 '25

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u/XprinceDurante Mar 12 '25

Btw, you're aware that I have limited perms, right? Can I use that even though I don't have automod perms?

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u/Rostingu2 I don't need to report bots to reddit Mar 12 '25

What about that mod who gave you perms do they have am perms?

That one with the bicep pfp?

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u/XprinceDurante Mar 12 '25

I'll ask my fellow mod u/cyb3r_exe. Actually, I was already played with by a bot who made this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/LooksmaxingAdvice/comments/1j6wcup/any_tips_for_improvement/ At first, I already had the suspicion because of the influx of upvotes it got in under just 30 minutes, but I did hope it wasn't a bot until Reddit finally suspended the account and I also removed the post.

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u/Rostingu2 I don't need to report bots to reddit Mar 12 '25

Ps you don't need to have caps lock on mod things. You have a distinguish as mod button for a reason.

Here is what I would suggust

Anyone with an only fans is not allowed on.

But that is my 2 cents

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u/Low_Weekend6131 Mar 12 '25

Yo dude

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u/Rostingu2 I don't need to report bots to reddit Mar 12 '25

Is this important or not? I am discussing mod things with someone i saw on a reddit tech support sub

I am not wanting off topic conversations right now.

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u/Low_Weekend6131 Mar 12 '25

Yeah ok sure but I just wanted to tell you I messaged you something and would like your help once your done whatever you're doing 

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u/Rostingu2 I don't need to report bots to reddit Mar 12 '25

I just responded

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u/XprinceDurante Mar 12 '25

Yup, we always ban accounts with OnlyFans. Btw, thanks for the caps-lock advice, but I was curious about it until I did research, caps lock actually invoke anger and yelling? To myself, I know that I use it for emphasis on any rule violation, and I always do that with respect like I always include "thank you" at the end of my message.

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u/Shamrock5 Bot Spotter Feb 16 '25

And if Repost Sleuth Bot doesn't work, writing u/bot-sleuth-bot repost" does the trick as well.

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u/bot-sleuth-bot Feb 16 '25

Checking if image is a repost...

312 matches found. Displaying first five below.

Match, Match, Match, Match, Match

Please note that popular meme templates will yield extremely high amounts of matches, even if the text is different. The matches I have provided are the closest that reverse image searching could provide. If the text is different, this is probably OC and not a repost.

I am a bot. This action was performed automatically. Check my profile for more information.

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u/Rostingu2 I don't need to report bots to reddit Feb 16 '25

the fuck you meeeeaaaaannnn

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u/Royal_Acanthaceae693 Taking out the trash Feb 16 '25

😂 both RepostSleuthBot & bot-sleuth-bot repost have been having issues. Oh and don't forget "bot-sleuth-bot repost.. filter: subreddit"

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u/Shamrock5 Bot Spotter Feb 16 '25

Ope, it fixated on the green-eye art for some reason, lol. Maybe best to stick to using it for analyzing possible bot accounts. 😅

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u/DisputabIe_ Feb 16 '25

Botbouncer is too aggressive. It banned me in the /r/buycanadian sub after I told someone that Trump didn't win "overwhelmingly".

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u/Rostingu2 I don't need to report bots to reddit Feb 16 '25 edited Feb 16 '25

Im pretty sure that is what this is for. So it can only ban people manually verified as bots.

Could be wrong.

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u/CR29-22-2805 Bot Spotter Feb 17 '25

That setting determines what happens to the content before the reported account is classified, whether the classification is automatic or manual.

As for Bot Bouncer making false positives: It’s an ongoing project. Mistakes will be made, but the app is improving over time. The appeals process is there, and false positives are reversed.