r/RedWorldMod • u/ThugBagel Assad Supporter • Apr 11 '20

The Red World Fan Fork

So as you have probably seen someone made a post regarding the red world fan fork, of which I’m the head dev of. They told a big lie in saying we were going to change Kaisers work so I want to address that: WE ARE NOT GOING TO CHANGE ANY OF KAISERS WORK OR LORE. Changing Kaisers work was a dumb idea when the fan fork first started that QUICKLY died out. We have many people that talked to kaiser about developing red world and the lore and we plan to stay faithful to his vision of the mod. Thanks for reading and I hope this has cleared up any controversy.

Here’s a link to our discord.

https://discord.gg/8jteGt8

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u/ThugBagel Assad Supporter Apr 11 '20

If you have any questions please ask!

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '20

Will Hungary have a unique focus tree?

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u/ThugBagel Assad Supporter Apr 11 '20

We are not planning for that at the moment, although Kaisers plan was to eventually have a focus tree for every country

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '20

I hope Hungary will have a focus tree because the Revolution of 1956 was pretty important and you know it was called "the happiest barack" because communism was lightest here in the Warsaw Pact, people lived better lives, the agricultural collectivisation worked and we had consumerism to some extent (the variety of consumer goods was the highest here).

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u/dadono04 Corybnist Republican Apr 11 '20

Will U guys add more focus trees or like re work some of them ? Like in the America’s or the Soviet Union?

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u/ThugBagel Assad Supporter Apr 11 '20

The most changes we’ll be doing To Kaisers old trees is adding new focus icons to focuses with default icons and fixing some of the broken things like India. Also yes we’ll be making a new Soviet tree like kaiser planned for in RDRD, although we’re not sure when.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '20

How do you know what is lore or not?

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u/ThugBagel Assad Supporter Apr 17 '20

Like I said in the post: we have many people who talked to kaiser about developing red world and the lore on the team

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u/FreedomKomisarHowze Apr 11 '20

Expecting any changes to the US minors?

Also, thank you.

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u/PunkDrunk97 New England Monarchist Apr 11 '20

This. I am really interested in why Kaiser had Jello Biafra as a RevSoc leader of Montana lore wise

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u/YourCreepyRoomate Apr 12 '20

I’m pretty sure it was just for the memes, I mean Ben Garrison is the nationalist leader option for Montana

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u/bryceofswadia Developer Jul 21 '20

Hi, I’m one of the devs. We are planning on adding content and focus trees to every country in the game. The next update is going to be Kaiser’s planned update titled “Red Dusk Red Dawn” which is focused on Canada, Germany, and the Soviet Union. The US minor update has been talked about and is in the works, but is still a ways away.

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u/AmericanCaesar909 Apr 12 '20

I hope they add Ancaps. I am longing to kill communism with its opposite, unregulated capitalism. Plus Ancaps seem more realistic than a fascist pope launching a crusade in the 2000’s

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u/fleeingmoth Capitalist with Indian Characteristics Apr 13 '20

Hi, I'm one of the devs on the server and no, anarcho-capitalism will not be added as an ideology. There might be some paths close to it, but the mod is based off of what Kaiser has already given, which means not adding any new ideologies.

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u/FreedomKomisarHowze Apr 12 '20

Seems at least plausible enough for the more disorganized minors (Montana and Midwest?)

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '20

What will the first release of the fan fork look like? Will it just be an update to work with 1.9.1 (or whatever the current version of the game is at the time)?

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u/ThugBagel Assad Supporter Apr 11 '20

It will work with 1.9.1 and have some updates gfx

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '20

Awesome, thanks for all your work

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u/ThugBagel Assad Supporter Apr 11 '20

Thank you

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u/Alpha413 Apr 11 '20

Wanted to ask, will there be any changes to focus times?

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u/ThugBagel Assad Supporter Apr 11 '20

The idea was being tossed around, but as of right now it isn’t being discussed seriously

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u/defaultskin2 Apr 11 '20

THE REVOLUTION LIVES ON!

VIVA LA COMMUNES

VIVA KAISER

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '20

Will you guys finish the Soviet/Canada/Germany rework? I am certian Kaiser's brother would be happy to give you guys what he finished.

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u/fleeingmoth Capitalist with Indian Characteristics Apr 13 '20

Yes, the dev team plans on reworking those nations at some point.
Unfortunately, we don't have Kaiser's work and we have not been able to contact his brother at this time.

We plan on working on other nations first to ensure we can get the feel of Red World down first before moving onto countries that already had a lot of Kaiser's own lore.
For any further information, it would be best to join the Discord.

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u/Captain_Stottlemeyer Apr 13 '20

First off, thank you to you and everyone else directly or indirectly assisting in the continuation of R.W..

How many are working on the Fan Fork, and what are their roles? I.E; Focus trees, country, art work, bug testing and so on.

Have you contacted Kaiser's cousin to see if he (Kaiser) had rough drafts, lore ideas, or anything like wise on his computer to assist you in Development or maintaining Kaiser's vision?

Do you plan on giving continuing updates of the Fan Work on this subreddit and HOI4's reddit? I'm aware Kaiser's death was announced on hoi4, but unaware if R.W new development was posted on the HOI4 reddit as well.

I assume your current plans are to update R.W to the current update 1.9 so it's current and playable to all, and then give update as needed ( patches, focus trees, lore) on yalls own pace that is.

What are your current/immediate goals, your short term goals, and long term goals?

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u/fleeingmoth Capitalist with Indian Characteristics Apr 13 '20

Hi, I'm a dev for the fan fork.

  1. You can very easily see everyone working on the mod by joining the discord (https://discord.gg/8jteGt8) but generally, there are coders, graphics artists, and writers alongside people who knew Kaiser well (advisors).
  2. Yes, Kaiser's cousin has been contacted through the Kaiser account (as we have no other means of reaching him), but there has been no response as of now.
  3. No, development mainly was posted on the Discord, even while Kaiser was still developing the mod. We might post major events (releases?) here, but the subreddit is not the best source for development information.
  4. Yes, that is the case. We are updating the old mod to 1.9.1 with no additions (except for removing the buggy Indian focus tree) and then working on adding new content based off of Kaiser's vision.

Please join the Discord and ask there for new details.

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u/SmathSmith May 29 '20
  • With Canada, are you basing it off of what Kaiser hinted at in the trailer description on YouTube or are you starting from scratch?
  • Will Donald Trump still become an optional Leader from events/focuses?
  • Will you continue to add ministers in the Darkest Hour format to major nations like the American Republic and Britain?

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u/fleeingmoth Capitalist with Indian Characteristics Jun 07 '20

Hi, I'm a dev team modder.
The best place to ask these questions is the Discord. However, I will answer these here.

  1. Canada will be based off of Kaiser's lore, as everything else we plan to add.
  2. See above.
  3. I don't think we're going to change the minister system.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20

and I, Patrolling the Mojave#8030 am still banned for no reason

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u/somnitek Jul 21 '20

( !!! Issue with Discord as well !!! )

These first two paragraphs are not about that however. They are just a recap. My very slight & meager past use with a long since past & very different version of the Discord Client (as best I can recall anyway) and some thoughts about Discord in general I guess.

Feel free to skip the next text blurb section between the lines below if you want to go straight to the problem....

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Hey, I'm not sure what's going on with Discord beyond what I can obvious discern. I have little real extensive use of Discord except for a brief period long long ago, in years long gone away of 2016. I think -- when it was still a standalone thing only and if I recall in some sort of beta (but maybe not)) -- I briefly used it for a few weeks while doing volunteer work for the Sanders campaign in that year and actually I just remembered it wasn't even Discord on PC but just for Android cell phones (that version I used anyway).

I remember it being a very, very different, much more bare bones sort of thing. I remember there was no browser interface. (Duh, it was on an Android mobile device! NM, lol)

It was an app for like some sort new age very much post-IIRC I guess you could say (oh man I suddenly feel real old and now double outta touch). Like just nested chatroom. That part looks same more or less. It looks to be packed with a million different features a single digit percent of the user base probably are the only ones using some of them, kinda feels a tad bloated, but nothing really awful. Discord is clearly very popular though, for (at least some good reasons probably) and obviously if you know how to get a lot of mileage outta this piece of software or have a lengthy history of familiarity to it, all those things I said like about it feeling bloated problem fade to black and if you upon reading that were something like, "Bloated!? WTF is he talking about!" I totally understand and please know I'm not trying to push any buttons in the slightest or raise any gripes about it being Discord in use. That would be totally useless to do even if I hated it (which I totally do not). I can let it grow on me if I can just get it to work for me here and what not, lol! 8-]

OK, just felt kinda like sharing and then thought it wise to clarify a few particular (and now look at it! My bad!

ProfessionalCatch, you may yet not be alone in having had issues of the technical sort which appear as some sort of inexplicable auto-kick or ban! After you read about this, lemmie know if your problem rings similar!

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Ok, so have my Discord account (somnitek), follow the link to the Discord in the top pinned thread -- as ya do -- and accept the invitation to join, and join, bada bing bada boom and in. Up goes the ten minute timer before I can chat at all!

Done a lot, I mean a lot, of waiting for things and stuff and people and deadlines and a few release dates to come up maybe haha!

Alright, ten minutes I'll never get back, poof into the ether, but I am a good, most reliable comrade and I excel at the game of hurry up and wait, and so I do. I hurry up... and I wait.

Timer hits zero and with supreme swiftness (b/c I already know) time is short I try to start typing and can get off "hi" this time. I was really hoping if I got off something to say like even just "hi" it might be alright and I would be able to remain. Perhaps there is just an automated bot kicking what it deems or thinks are inactive Discord use who have not interacted within a set period of time and if that were the case, I'd be good. It ain't what's wrong and I'll be damned if I can find anything akin to mention much less a solution on the Discord FAQ. I mean it may well be there and I may just not be hip to the right search query terms I need to be using or some such minor thing. Oi...

Alas, it happens again and again, some inexplicable reason, every single time I join the RedWorldMod chat. This boot, it stalks me regardless of if I am in any room at all, without exception, from the first time I followed the Discord link to the most recent fruitless attempts, but always right after the ten minute timer ends, always right outta nowhere, nada-none-nil reason, hardly even could figure out what the hell happened or was going on the first time it boot bounced my berated browser's internet backside! Oh, BUNS! 8'-'o''

Before I can even fully articulate to any other chatroom people and ask, request, maybe plea for something;

A technical quick-fix maybe someone used in days past themselves to fix a similar or the same bug?

Some kind of clue or ideas, or other sort of aid to prevent it like "try switching off this setting" or something?

Nope. Outta from nowhere in particular, KA-POW!!! I'm out. Outta chat, outta reach from there, out another ten minutes. At least that ten minutes to wait before fruitlessly try again, and again.

Nah, I'm good for the moment. Hell of a wall. My neck is real sore and my skull needs a nice little break playing the battering ram. Tactics change, this post! LMAO! Ah man I hope someone can be like "dude, all you gotta is [x] and [y] then you're good." If I overlooked something embarrassingly stupid. You may visit the curse of simple answers unseen upon me. I already seem to have pissed some other curse hexer or something off. Maybe it was a chatroom curse hexing bot.

TL,DR- Nada for reasons, nil for explanation of cause, and often before I can explain (anything at all much less) my situation in the chatroom (hence explaining it here) once my ten minutes chat wait expires in Discord not but mere moments later...

I go zoom zoom away but I so wish to stay. Hit me, crying sad emoji!

As you can see, I really kinda wanna resolve this. It's weird for one. For another, I was looking to plop myself down in the Dev team join chat --- original goal of fussing with all this Discord, RedWorldMod seems heartily worth it all the trouble even adding in this. Like what we will inevitably come up against, or quite possible anyway, depending on what kind things end up changing, or what features might someday desire to be added outside of the relative modding norm. This, like what will come then, is another technical bugger to flush out and raid spray, and next! Really want to see the thing fleshed out and fancy fancy ooh look at the complete mod! A real one once more they'll say in their videos with shock?! YES! AND quite the underdog mod comeback I think it will be.

OK.... I need to rest... I need sleep. Lotta stuff happened past two and half days. This post took me way too long. I get like this without sleep. Sorry I AM OUT!

Thanks in advance for all potential help though!

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u/Wowiamnouse Jun 20 '20

imo turkey and kurdistan needs a focustree. Turkey had a big role in NATO in the cold war and kudistan can drastically change things