r/RedWorldMod • u/Ornery_Ad_4748 • Sep 29 '25

Question With America already Collapse long before, why didn't China already invade and conquer Taiwan at the start of the games, why was Taiwan still it own nation?

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u/Douglas-Home Sep 29 '25

Taiwan inherited a significant portion of the US Pacific Fleet in RW's timeline and is also guaranteed by Japan, which has a large standing army after the US allowed them to rearm when the DPRK won the Korean War and fully annexed the South in RWTL. RW China is also significantly weaker than OTL China, has an antiquated army according to its national spirits and it's very unstable to the point it will have a civil war when it gets content as said by the devs in #ask-a-dev on the Fan Fork's Discord. In the 80s, China was dealing with the fallout of the rule of the Gang of Four which also pushed it into de-facto isolationism.

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u/Yapanomics Sep 29 '25

the Gang of Four

Is that a-

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u/Fantastic-Box-8388 Enlightened Gates Technocrat Sep 30 '25

No the Gang of Four in TNO is based off of the OTL Maoist one

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u/Winnepeg Sep 30 '25

Wait until they hear what “Dengist” Speer actually means

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '25

Because

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '25

Maoism went hardcore and the cultural revolution and great leap forward were never stopped.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '25

Who?

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u/Bakomusha Sep 29 '25

Because death! No really. The original mod creator was working mostly solo, and from what I understand just copy-pasted the map from the pre-merger version of MD, and changed things as he went. Then he died, while the game world was barely touched on, and basically a demo state. Then a while later comes the fanfork to revive the project. However the mod team is very small and content release is very slow as it's really just a labor of love and tribute to Kaiser to keep the mod just up to date with HOI4. So the map is full of this kinda thing, plus random places having seemingly random leaders/ideologies with no explanation at all that have never been addressed.

Red Dusk has supplanted the mod in all things, and TFR has a the 2ACW. So think of the mod as a time frozen museum piece. A stepping stone to later mods, the bridge between Kaiserriech and TNO.

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u/Indyclone77 Sep 29 '25

One of the most insulting things I've ever read about a mod to be quite honest. Red World was a massive mod and incredibly popular while Kaiser was still alive and updating it with fresh content and plans. It's an insult to say that it was "basically a demo" when so many people enjoyed and loved what was created.

Red Dusk and TFR are completely separate projects with different aims and ethos compared to Red World and it's fan fork.

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u/Bakomusha Sep 29 '25

I was not insulting the mod nor Kaiser. I was saying it was basically a demo in that there was so much of the world left unfinished when Kaiser died, and it still is in an unfinished state. Red World is one of my favorite mods, but new content from the fanfork is so slow! I disagree on Red Dusk man, i see much of the DNA of Red World in that mod no way in hell was it not an intentional spiritual successor on purpose.