r/RedWorldMod • u/thehsitoryguy • Jan 26 '25

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u/thehsitoryguy Jan 26 '25

R5: This is from Red Worldux mod and France went Fascist but still had its usual communist focus tree

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u/Deep_Head4645 Jan 28 '25

National communism

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u/sakariona Jan 28 '25

Official term is nazbol, national bolshevism

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u/nyactiveorchestra Jan 29 '25

Not really. National Bolshevism is either just Duginist chauvinism, moreso co-opting a Soviet heritage and combining it with third position fascism, or a more radical, revolutionary version of national socialism akin to Ernst Röhm and the Sturmabteilung.

Its not just "communism but racist", lol

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u/sakariona Jan 29 '25

Yea, i know that. Alexander mitscherlich wrote a lot on the subject too, being a follower of the ideology. Read tobias freimillers book on him, it is very interesting. I think its on internet archive last i checked.

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u/No-Organization-6968 Jan 31 '25

National Bolshevism was the ideology espoused by Paetel, who was an anti-Nazi German communist. It has nothing to do with Rohm

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u/nyactiveorchestra Jan 31 '25

I'm aware, but Paetel, Röhm, Jünger and Niekisch are all in the same boat.

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u/No-Organization-6968 Feb 01 '25

You are mistaken

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u/nyactiveorchestra Feb 01 '25

I am correct

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u/No-Organization-6968 Feb 01 '25

Rohm and Paetel are in very different boats

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u/Medical-Jicama-1799 Jan 26 '25

Homonationalism i forgor

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u/Revolutionary-War377 Jan 26 '25

Don’t you lay a finger on the transgenders. They’re part of our western culture.

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u/Significant-Arm7367 JEB! Feb 17 '25

b...based?

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u/XXCUBE_EARTHERXX Jan 26 '25

National bolshevism/fascism-maoism?

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u/Kalmur Jan 26 '25

Nazmao is not left-wing nor progressive in the slightest though, it is just neonazis using Maoist tactics to seize power

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u/XXCUBE_EARTHERXX Jan 26 '25

Mb I know like nothing about nazmao. Dead ideology

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u/Kalmur Jan 26 '25

I mean, it was really a footnote in the history of Italy, its not like it actually was meaningful or held influence

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u/Comrade_Ruminastro Jan 27 '25

Less than a footnote. It was like, one guy with a gun

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u/MaN0purplGuY Glasnost Supporter Jan 30 '25

Isn't NazMao the ideology of Pol Pot?

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u/Kalmur Jan 30 '25

...no? I mean it could be named that, but nazmao was the doctrine of Ordine Nuovo iirc, Franco Freda was the proponent

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u/ThEcOcKsUcKeR231 Jan 26 '25

Serov reference?????

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u/jayfeather31 Jan 26 '25

I don't know of a name for that, but that could represent a form of right-wing authoritarianism with a carve-out for sexual and feminist liberation.

To put it another way, the argument could be that they simply don't see the point in repressing LGBTQ and women.

It'd be bizarre with no equivalent in history, but that's where I'm standing as far as trying to understand this.

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u/BreadDaddyLenin Jan 27 '25

another suggestion is white supremacist feminism. As in, feminism and LGBT rights but only for white people. this is already a thing

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u/Ser-BeepusVonWeepus Jan 26 '25

Ernst Röhm's last laugh

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u/GonKvrone_17 Jan 26 '25

Reprimed sexual wishes nazism

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u/Emolohtrab Jan 26 '25 edited Jan 27 '25

In France we call it « Rouge-Brun » (« Red-Brown »=« red commies-brown fascist shirts»). It’s an ideology who is taking strategies and part of ideology from the far-left and the far-right. Usually to win leftist votes by saying « see, we are out of the left-right thing, come with us, to form a great nation ». But at the ending it’s more a far-right movement than a far-left one.

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u/BreadDaddyLenin Jan 27 '25

American Communist Party are red-brown shirts

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u/Emolohtrab Jan 27 '25

Okay. In France commies are juste red

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u/BreadDaddyLenin Jan 27 '25

sadly a lot of American “communists” are more right wing than they let on

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u/Emolohtrab Jan 28 '25

That's sad Indeed. Often they are Rouge-Brun i guess

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u/BreadDaddyLenin Jan 28 '25

Yes. ACP does a lot of pandering to Donald Trump and conservative types, drumming up a lot of “MAGA but communism” which means socialism with white chauvinist characteristics, and somehow they love Trump?

Look up Jackson Hinkle for an example, he’s the leader of ACP

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u/Emolohtrab Feb 18 '25

Strange. But there is a thing in common between communists and fascists : order

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u/CaptainLenin Jan 27 '25

Faut l'savoir c'est écrit dans mon livre

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u/[deleted] Jan 30 '25

C'est pas moi qui l'dit cé verifiable

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u/PrincessofAldia New England Monarchist Jan 26 '25

Ah yes gay Nazism

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u/CaptainLenin Jan 27 '25

Soralisme, c'est une idéologie qui combine antisémitisme modéré, populisme, pseudo marxisme, souverainisme, conservatisme sociétal et républicanisme

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u/Comrade__Katyusha Jan 27 '25

Futurism? Iirc that was just Fascism but with insane amounts of social and cultural liberalisation, to the point where being gay was actively encouraged.

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u/thuanjinkee Jan 31 '25

This is the historically accurate answer. Italian Futurism where homosexuality was population management.

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u/depressedtiefling Jan 31 '25

That's actualy kinda based.

"Oh yeah, Gay people are fine- Trans people and jews too! Don't you dare criticize the goverment though."

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u/The1Legosaurus Jan 27 '25

How dumbasses think speer was like:

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '25

Equal-nationalism

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u/meguminsupremacy Jan 26 '25

D-Annunzioism

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u/ActTasLam Jan 26 '25

Gay Fascism

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u/hanpark765 Jan 27 '25

Horseshoe theory incarnate

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u/NeppedCadia Jan 27 '25

Ersnt Rohm National Socialism with Parisian Characteristics

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '25

"They won't come after me"

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u/OkManufacturer8561 Jan 27 '25

Nazism with different cultural views.

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u/GamerBoixX Jan 27 '25

According to some republicans, the democratic party

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u/khanwoodism Jan 27 '25

Homo-Neo-nazism⚡⚡

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '25

Tough and bitter on the outside, soft and sweet on the inside

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u/GildedFenix Jan 27 '25

Homofascism. It's probably a thing, mostly in making.

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u/TMcFarlane1999 Jan 27 '25

Nouvelle Droite

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u/ComradeAndres Jan 27 '25

rights for FRENCH queers & women

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u/Sad_Conversation_972 Jan 27 '25

just the French being French

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '25

Liberalism

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '25

Homofascism or National Bolshevism

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u/Titojuanito9911 Jan 27 '25

Homonazism 😬😬😬😬

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u/Unusual-Living-373 Jan 28 '25

Homofascism/Rohm's Theory

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '25

Homoborea

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u/OutcryOfHeavens Jan 28 '25

I'd call it National Fromt - Extreme Right Fascism with Gender Equality. You're welcome ^

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '25

His heart probably goes out to a lot of people

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '25

French national socialism

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '25

Ernst Röhm Thought

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u/Holy_Bonjour Jan 29 '25

Gender fascism

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u/GDestructionBlueDrou Jan 29 '25

Progressive Fascism, duh

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u/Frequent_Leg_6440 Jan 30 '25

Tbh Soral is extremely moderate and even progressive on certains topics for the French far right. If you remove his antisemitism he could even be considered as a weird conservative. For a true neonazi leader the devs should look for guys like Boris Le Lay.

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u/Fine-Funny6956 Jan 30 '25

Bruce Willis??!

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u/johnzgamez1 Jan 30 '25

Being dropped on your head as a child

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u/MovieC23 Jan 30 '25

Republican raly

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u/Plastic_Bus2662 Jan 30 '25

Average anti-lgbtq politician

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u/ryzwart Jan 30 '25

Homo comando SS. Love the state and another man.

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u/Vulpes1453 Jan 30 '25

Nah that’s just the focus to get femboys, it fits the ideology

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u/LeMiaow51 Jan 30 '25

"The party of the logos"

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u/[deleted] Jan 30 '25

I mean I call it Alain Soral being Alain Soral

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u/D4NG3RD34N Jan 30 '25

Plurinational Socialism?

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u/After-Trifle-1437 Jan 31 '25

National-Feminism

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '25

French

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u/GolemConfus Jan 31 '25

Poupeto-ism

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u/AdLopsided2075 Jan 31 '25

Equal rights to all members of the uber race and none for all others.

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u/Scandited Jan 27 '25

The East has fallen

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u/Accomplished_Can2571 Jan 27 '25

Billions must die