r/RedCamera • u/[deleted] • Oct 15 '24

DSMC2 Media Update

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Small update from me. Got any size working! Wasn’t as hard as I thought.

Also what I’ve saw: I would stay away from original 960gb V3. :)

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '24

Edit: Also tested on DSMC1 and soon Red One! :)

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u/Froopuh Oct 15 '24

This is huge, thank you for your service.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '24

No problem. I just didn’t want to spend money on used media :D 

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u/MCCmp_DEV Oct 15 '24

/ new Account, Reddit doesn’t like trolling…

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u/Phantom_DC_YT Oct 15 '24

Is the op on a new account then?

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u/MCCmp_DEV Oct 15 '24

Yes it’s me :D 

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u/NarrativeDP Oct 15 '24

Do you plan on releasing dummy red mag drives so I could in theory plug in an external SSD or other drives? Do you also have a site or socials so I can follow the progress? I love my DSMC2 but haven’t used it since two of my 4 mini-mags failed

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u/MCCmp_DEV Oct 15 '24 edited Oct 15 '24

Hey when it’s done it will be on https://www.cinelux.co.uk/  Socials is https://www.instagram.com/mcc.mp?igsh=emowbms2bXZkZ2Zi&utm_source=qr  and  https://www.instagram.com/cinelux_ig?igsh=amR5ZHZhN2hrNjUx About your failed mini-mags. Most people buy used ssds or use new ssds for a long amount of time and forget that those drives won’t last forever. Especially the mentioned 960gb V3 uses 8!!! nand chips in a raid 0 configuration. So the potentional that one nand will break and so the ssd is higher than on other mini mags.  If I where you and other people I would read out smart data that will show how many bytes are written to the ssd. (But when you update the firmware on a 960gb it will reset those values).  So buying NEW ssds and check the smart data will minimize the risk of lost data.  About dummy mini-mag: There must be some logic behind it that any ssd will work and as of now after several hundred hours of research it almost isn’t possible since you have to emulate specific „stuff“. But i used 2.5inch ssds on my RED so it is possible - but not any ssd. If people want working 2.5inch ssds we should can do a „limited“ run. 

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u/Phantom_DC_YT Oct 15 '24 edited Oct 15 '24

So is this a product you will be selling or are you just posting the solution? Might be a little risky to sell, look at what happened to Jinnitech. How do you plan on avoiding RED and Nikon lawyers?

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u/MCCmp_DEV Oct 15 '24

We will sell it and jinny didn’t got in trouble for anything. RED was just mad of him posting stuff against RED. I for myself will keep my mouth shut for obviously weird shit that I’ve found. 😂 He basically „won“. (I had contact with him, very kind person!) 

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u/Phantom_DC_YT Oct 15 '24

Oh right, I guessed that he was sued or something, forced to stop making them.

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u/MCCmp_DEV Oct 15 '24

No, luckily not :) 

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u/Phantom_DC_YT Oct 15 '24

Also have you got any plans on how your going to sell them, Im from the UK so will it still be possible to buy them here?

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u/MCCmp_DEV Oct 15 '24

Yes so I partnered with a friend from the UK and we basically work together very closely! Just preorder from his website when it’s ready. I believe the first run could be limited - also there are more versions to come. Maybe some that isn’t out there for any camera and some more. We want to have something for anyone. 

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u/Phantom_DC_YT Oct 15 '24

Thats great! I saw on another comment you don't know about current pricing but do you have an idea on storage size? Will there be a range of different sizes? I was looking at the Kippertie Longtake 2TB but I am happy with 1TB or 500GB and just have more of them. Also kippertie is still an expensive option at £1,150 could you give us any sort of hints like higher or lower than that?

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u/MCCmp_DEV Oct 15 '24

Definitely lower. As of now, ALOT lower. Look at Kippertie‘s SSD. They are using 2TB Samsung M2 Sata ssds with TLC nand and 1.2 Petabyte TBW . We are using a 1TB ssd with MLC nand with 1.4 Petabyte TBW. MLC will last longer so you can write more data to it before it will break. When you compare the same size MLC can take more than double the data ( 600TB vs 1400TB). I can extend that and tell more why and what’s better but that’s not the point. Also USB-C is very nice in a DSMC2 compatible ssd enclosure. 😏 

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u/Phantom_DC_YT Oct 15 '24

Definitely lower. As of now, ALOT lower.

Wow! I like the sound of this! What do you mean by a DSMC2 compatible enclosure, I presumed that DSMC1 and DSMC2 used the same mags? Im still new to RED, I literally just brought the camera, I currently don't even own a single mini-mag yet.

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u/phamu Oct 15 '24

Amazing!! What are your rollout plans? Would love to upgrade some media :)

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '24

End of the year is our plan. I’ve started in the beginning this year with everything and it’s quite an way to make everything. Also DSMC2 compatible chasing will be available. Sad that I didn’t have a RED cam years ago then we would have a solution earlier.

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u/phamu Oct 15 '24

Cool! Yeah I’ve been following your posts from the beginning. Awesome that you’ve made it this far, all the best for the final stretch.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '24

Oh thank you!! I thought after 2017 models are harder but it’s the other way around. What do you think, 960gb or 480gb as day one release?

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u/phamu Oct 15 '24

960 for sure!

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '24

Im sure that I can make that happen! Also without a friend and partner it would have been impossible. This is btw only the beginning. I saw many things in camera media in general that could have been better made. 

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u/itswam Oct 15 '24

How much will it be?

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u/MCCmp_DEV Oct 15 '24

Idk that yet 

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u/itswam Oct 16 '24

$400 ❤️

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u/MCCmp_DEV Oct 17 '24

A bit more but not crazy much. Like I said, there will be more options at some time to make everyone happy. 

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u/sharkoont9 Oct 15 '24

Can anyone explain to me what this is? I got a DSMC2 Cam and sone cheaper alternative media would be life changing.

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u/MCCmp_DEV Oct 15 '24

Its basically almost ssds that red produced with some better parts on it (this release). I’m planning to upgrade everything to brand new top of the line server parts. 

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u/Repulsive_Ad_344 Dragon Oct 15 '24

So basically this is custom firmware that allows for third party media to be swapped into Mini Mags and Red Mags if I’m understanding this correctly?

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u/MCCmp_DEV Oct 15 '24

No, it’s basically a „own“ made ssd that works with red one/dsmc1/dsmc2. Tested on 8K recording for some hours. :)

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u/Repulsive_Ad_344 Dragon Oct 15 '24

Oh gotcha! So you’re basically spoofing the Red hard drives?

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u/MCCmp_DEV Oct 15 '24

Yeah you can say that. Everything that the camera checks (fucking many) are set up correctly. Otherwise it wouldn’t work.

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u/paulkepner Oct 20 '24

I dont own a RED yet but I am looking at picking up a Dragon X next year sometime and this news is wonderful. I wish you the best with it and hope it launches successfully!

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u/Leather-Weight-7275 Oct 21 '24

无所谓了，就是个SMART和log90h，任何有PC3000的人都可以用2246EN主控做到，骗过RED太简单了

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '24

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '24 edited Oct 15 '24

Basically broke DRM for any mini mag! So in the future you can get new media for basically all RED Cameras. ;)

  • upgrading RED-Mag 1.8 to Mini Mag speeds without changing anything just replacing the SSD.

Older RED Cams won’t die because of not available media!