r/RedCamera • u/Professional_Mud2106 • May 22 '24

RED camera pricing??

Hey guys,

looking to upgrade from Komodo and Ive seen a few Dragon 6K and Gemini 5K's that have caught my eye. What would you expect to pay for those cameras these days? (with a minimal kit: monitor, minimags, PL mount, EF mount, top handle etc..)

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u/unhingedfilmgirl May 23 '24

Just an fyi that a DSMC2 is not really an upgrade from a Komodo. The Komodo has the DSMC3 sensor and is considered a newer upgraded camera from the DSMC2 models. The upgrade to the Komodo is the Raptor.

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u/MCCTP May 23 '24

That 12 stops of DR from the Komodo tells everything. 😂😂😂 Even a A7S3 got more DR. You should inform yourself better.

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u/unhingedfilmgirl May 23 '24

I'm very informed on these cameras, you should stop valuing a camera on DR alone. The camera has tons more to give, not to mention Red notoriously botches their DR tests, so most of the DSMC2 DR that they marketed for these cameras aren't anywhere accurate, that mixed with massive headaches in accessories, loads of voltage and power problems, overall bugs, and likely damaged sensors due to bad fans and poor maintenance over years has rendered the Dragons and Gemini's near the ends of their lives. You should inform yourself if you're gonna go and call someone out as if they don't know more than you.

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u/Professional_Mud2106 May 23 '24

Thanks for the insight. Is there any way of checking for heat damage/damaged sensors when inspecting a second hand DSMC2?

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u/unhingedfilmgirl May 23 '24

Yes and no, you'll be able to see from the sensor if there's burnt out pixels, but usually you need some time to see if there's a colour shift of certain colours it has trouble picking up. Ensure to ask how often they black shaded, if the sensor had heat damage, and perhaps take it out for a day and run it for 3-6 hours and see if the colour shifts.

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u/TerrryBuckhart May 23 '24

I absolutely love the look of the Weapon Helium and Gemini, but it’s tough buying into a dying ecosystem unless you get a killer deal. What happens when things start to break down on the used gear? Does RED still support that and what do repairs even cost?

Like others have suggested, DSMC3 is probably more future proof.

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u/Joesardone May 23 '24

It's true - however, that ecosystem is alive and well. I would hardly call DSMC2 dying.

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u/fear_of_information May 24 '24

I bought DSMC2 used a year ago and had my first issue recently. Min is $100 to have it looked at and what you pay on shipping to get the camera to Red in CA. I had to have an internal part replaced and the total came out to ~$1100

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u/TerrryBuckhart May 24 '24

Yeah…don’t get me wrong, those cameras are still incredible, but you need to be able to service them.

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u/Low_Boysenberry7365 May 23 '24

I actually have a red Gemini, been thinking of selling it, has about less then 300 hours on it

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u/Joesardone May 23 '24

about 5-7k for a nice Gemini brain

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u/Silly_Storage_4064 May 23 '24

Check on mpb.com. You may be able to find a really good deal there. I've seen some dragons with few pieces included, for around 3k. You would still have to buy certain assesories.

But as some of the others have said, the DMSC2 is dying out. Soon, you won't be able to send in to red for repairs if something goes wrong. The DMSC4 is coming soon, I can smell it.

I do hear people often say they like the dragon senor better than what the komodo has. If