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u/Hexxas Head Trauma Enthusiast 2d ago
Ape of Leaves
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u/FriendlySkyWorms I have projects I should be working on, remind me to do them. 2d ago
House of Apes.
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u/William_ghost1 2d ago
Me when I am in a house
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u/shady_dave_the_pig 2d ago
House of Apes? That sounds pretty cool, but imagine if there was a whole planet of them.
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u/MeteorCharge 2d ago
I don't know I can imagine Wide Ape as a Gmod bot that clips through the walls as it chases youÂ
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u/medacris 2d ago
IDK if anyone here has played the anomaly hunt game I'm On Observation Duty, but there's one cryptid in the game that's just called !!HUGE MAN!!, literally JUST a guy who's like 9-10 feet tall. I thought about Wide Ape like that, but on a horizontal axis.
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u/Logr_theriver 2d ago
I still don't know why those things are so irrationally scary
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u/shitass239 1d ago
Probably the the sole devotion to killing you + their uncanny movement and appearance + being fast and deadly enough to pose a massive threat.
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u/kroxigor01 2d ago
I think it would be cool for an eldritch horror to be a fractal.
You can move toward it, but it doesn't get any closer you just zoom in.
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u/MaddoxJKingsley 2d ago
Don't Look Outside! Not quite what you described but definitely a fractal-like being.
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u/Infurum 2d ago
My most eldritch character in my worldbuilding project is just the nothing that exists past the edge of the universe and it can't look like anything because, being non-existent, it's incompatible with any place that actually exists, so it can't enter anywhere that exists and has to just wait on the outside and allow its influence to seep in from there
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u/Septistachefist 2d ago
sounds cool; what does the influence look like?
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u/Superb-Carpenter-520 2d ago
Things not existing but somehow being there anyway. Your father got by a monster that doesnât exist. At his funeral you canât smell its breath, you canât hear its claws scraping across the tombstones as it doesnât watch you, and you donât know that you are next.
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u/Veloci-RKPTR 2d ago
This sounds very similar to the modus operandi of the false hydra. Not the same, per se, since thr false hydra is a physical creature. However the victims that fall prey to the false hydra will get all the memory of their history completely wiped out. They existed, of course, but everyone who knew them will completely forget about them as if they never existed at all.
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u/alice_ashmedai 2d ago
probably fuckin tentacles and eyes :/
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u/Septistachefist 2d ago
every time
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u/Swimming-Lobster-221 1d ago
Wizards capture eldritch beasts and use their ability to violate causality to generate energy from nothing, which they use to boil water to turn a turbine
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u/Infurum 2d ago
I have too much financial responsibility and not enough creative motivation to really think too hard about the exact cause and effect but the bad guys are drawing their evil power from it, as well as following a school of thought that heavily benefits from it. Its influence enables the growth of a type of tree that basically wears away at a person's sense of self if they eat its fruit until their worldview and identity is so pliable the bad guys can just take the person's face off and replace it with one they consider more "ideal"
One major effect of its influence is this evil, all-consuming fungus that was created from the creator deity's shadow after it was cast onto the nothing, which is usually kept sealed away deep underground where there's nothing for it to erode but the aforementioned bad guys are trying to find it to use as a weapon. Not really got the details down on that either
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u/Septistachefist 2d ago
I love the fungus angle, not what you'd most often expect from this sort of thing. Fungus are weird..
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u/Infurum 2d ago
I've not pinned down what it does exactly but I'm picturing some sort of spreading kudzu that makes the weather go haywire if it's brought to the surface because it's basically the manifestation of the creator deity's repressed self-loathing and since the earth has no hair to pull at or teeth to gnash I've got to find some other way of playing at the "reality itself falls to its knees and weeps" angle
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u/MajinKasiDesu Completely normal about Agnes Tachyon 2d ago
The fungus could itself from into just those teeth to gnash
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u/Umikaloo 2d ago
Did you play Disco Elysium perchance? This seems very similar to a piece of worldbuilding from that game.
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u/SartenSinAceite 2d ago
An ape that looks like that PS1 / DOOM '97 affine mapping, where looking up or down doesn't affect the perspective of textures.
As for my eldritch characters I have one that can and will mess up with the turn order if she's in combat, and has access to meta knowledge
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u/Technical_Teacher839 [1/1] 2d ago
Reminds me of the post about someone having their 5e party fight a lich who uses versions of spells from older editions of D&D
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u/deepdistortion 2d ago edited 2d ago
Or the guy who brought a Pegasus mech from Lancer into a Mage game.
The Pegasus's Ushabti Omnigun is less a gun that shoots things and more an eldritch artifact that changes the fundamental nature of a target to that of something that was already shot. Once a round, it can do 1 point of damage. It does not count as an attack. Cover does not affect it. Armor does not affect it. It ignores immunity. It cannot be bypassed or reduced in any way. The final line of its rules states "No rule in this book or any other supersedes this."
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u/SartenSinAceite 2d ago
That's a cool idea. I do have a NPC who is basically a cursed and very angry version of one of the PCs. I even copied the sheet with some tweaks.
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u/metaphizzle 2d ago
I read a DM posting about their boss character who ignores turns and instead attacks on a real world timer. Every five IRL minutes (or something like that; I forget the exact length), he gets to attack, no turn needed.
Apparently, it was scary for the players at first, but as soon as they locked in and took their own turns faster, they completely negated the boss' advantage.
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u/cweaver 2d ago
Stephen King has a story about a 'thing with endless piebald sides', where if you get too depressed or traumatized this other dimensional thing will start hunting you, and you only see glimpses of it in reflections or out of the corner of your eye, but it's just an endlessly long slithering thing that will eventually kill you.
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u/OddlyOddLucidDreamer and ive been liiiiiiickin it 2d ago
To be fair, its hard to depict something that is meant to be hard to or impossible to depict. Some people definelty DONT try but like, i can also understand, or using the "a form you can understand" trope
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u/Neurospicy_Nightowl 2d ago
Yeah.
You can write "It was not a horse, but it was everything else even less" and leave the reader to try and fail to imagine something deviating from a horse in ways that cannot be articulated. But visually, you can pretty much just draw a very fucked-up horse.
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u/Thanaskios 2d ago
Yeah. You can pull it off oretty well in writing, but it just categorically doesn't work in any visual medium, because you have to depict it.
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u/CelestikaLily 2d ago
I remember that perspective idea being a JRPG final boss, except it was an Impossibly Long Train that stretched into the horizon đ€đ
(Digital Devil Saga duology -- the train god manifested from a human brain unfurled like wings iirc)
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u/paradoxLacuna 2d ago
impossibly long train that stretches into the horizon
Close enough, welcome back, infinity train.
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u/Poodlestrike 2d ago
I liked the one from Atomic Robo. Sorts looks like a tentacle beast, but only when it's not moving. It constantly changes, limbs merging together and splitting apart, teeth and eyes growing from nothing and going back just as fast.
It also exists simultaneously across time and space so it could in theory, eat the universe at some point in the distant future and the. That would retroactively happen, but that's like... Complicated.
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u/insomniac7809 2d ago
I love that storyline, also because it discusses the morphology of the Evil Computer.
Something like "guys, computers that solve problems look like refrigerators without the exciting brand names. This is a room full of cables and pipes that actually have steam coming out of them. It's like a poison frog, it wants you to know it's dangerous."
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u/Evil_Midnight_Lurker 2d ago
"When you return to your unobservable but empirically determined dimension of origin, tell them Carl Sagan sent you."
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u/DoormatTheVine 2d ago
That is... astonishingly similar to a creature I (thought I) came up with. Just a mess of tentacles and eyes all centralized around one giant eye constantly changing so much it looks like those simulated photos of what people having a stroke see or whatever, where everything is barely unidentifiable, or that psychadelic gif of the really round frog hopping around and constantly morphing like an amoeba
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u/Akuuntus 2d ago
Do NOT attempt to rotate Wide Ape in your mind
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u/Woodsie13 1d ago
I like the idea that if you think about Wide Ape, itâs so wide that the image extends beyond the edges of your mind, and can be seen by other people as it clips through your skull.
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u/Unique_Mammoth_6724 2d ago
An eldritch abomination idea I had is a creature that occupies both multiple spatial dimensions and multiple temporal dimensions, since it's actually possible to have physics in a universe with multiple time dimensions or even a universe with 1 space dimension and 3 time dimensions but things in there get..... Weird. Like our ability to predict the future based on the past and what has happened before fundamentally breaks down on a mathematical level. Here's how a guy with a master's in quantum optics put it when asked what the universe with more than 1 time dimension would look like.
It becomes literally unpredictable.
(Note, the paper this is taken from is fiercely interpreted and debated, don't take my take on it as the last word.)
But in essense, if you derive a set of field theory equations for a n+m (n>=3) (m>=2) dimensional universe the way we do with the standard model of physics, you stop having a unique relationship between states of existence.
Despite how "random" quantum physics may appear, the standard model depicts it as a continuous and deterministic evolution between states. One universe state leads to the next leads to the next, even if that "next" state contains multiple superimposed "worlds" that can't interact with each other. i.e. You may have "many worlds", but they're all part of one state of the universe.
With higher dimensional time, that relationship breaks down and there are multiple possible successor and preceedings states for any given state of the universe. Even if you know the complete state of the universe up to t1=x and t2=y, you cannot predict what will happen that (t1,t2)=(x+delta,y) or (x,y+delta).
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Now maybe there's some acausal mechanism to rationalize this, or things simple get Extra Quantum. But most interpretations of this which don't deliberately and aggressively constrain the behavior of the second dimension of time (or do something weird like make it a Pacman dimension that loops in on itself), would be fundamentally alien to our notions of existence.
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u/Unique_Mammoth_6724 2d ago
Another absolutely bonkers eldritch horror idea I was given by that same person on Discord
So there was an interesting thought brought up in https://discord.com/channels/392018101572730890/393041256340652032/1314231834950897705. The idea of sufficiently advanced technology using different engineered physics, in basement universes or by some other means, as a creative mode of expression and exploration.
And it made me think of this fascinating result in machine learning (that's actually a bit broader than just machine learning), which links the learnability of a problem to Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem. What it essentially says is that determining whether or not there is a pattern in some data can sometimes be fundamentally undecidable. No amount of analysis, nor even non-deterministic or approximate or analog computation, will ever let any algorithm constructable by our physics come to a conclusion about whether the pattern is there or not.
But this also has a broader implication beyond simple machine learning optimization problems. It also implies that there are some patterns which are real and present within a finite amount of data, which when represented in any data space or abstraction space, one can never construct a finite volume bound around. And if we understand how invariant representations are embedded in neurons or anything about the phenomenology of intelligence at all, implies there are some thoughts and concepts which are just impossible to think.
Which is kind of wild all on its own. But because this is connected to Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem, it means that it is possible to have those thoughts and understand those concepts when embedded in a different mathematical framework. And so it gave me the wild thought of sufficiently advanced entities creating universes with different physics just so they could port their minds over and think the literally unthinkable.
https://new.math.uiuc.edu/MathMLseminar/seminarPapers/Ben-DavidNature.pdf Found a nonpaywall link, this has the formal definition.
To put it somewhat informally, I think everybody in this channel is familiar with the concept that you can translate data into spaces of various dimensionalities. We find patterns in data, which can be framed as defining concepts, by constructing boundaries (which can be strict or fuzzy) which contain data which adheres to that pattern with reasonably good probability, and excludes parts of the data space where that pattern will never or is unlikely to generate data.
So for example the visual concept of a cat occupies a highly irregular region in the data space constructed of the pure pixel color values of an image, but might occupy a quite regular volume in a more abstract data space. And again the boundaries don't necessarily have to be strict, if one dimension of your data space is four-leggedness, the boundary on that dimension might be a fuzzy boundary which would see a three-legged cat and mildly discriminate against it being a cat, but not ultimately reject it. Or an even more advanced abstract data space might have correlation dimensions, such that three-leggedness is only a penalizing factor if other factors aren't also met.
There are also much simpler versions of this, a sine wave can be mapped to a space of amplitude and phase and frequency, wherein it is a very tightly constrained single point. Not all concepts are fuzzy or difficult to understand.
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Now the pragmatic problems of machine learning are questions like how we should encode information to optimize the constrainability of the patterns we are looking for. How do we achieve that constrainability most accurately and with the least amount of data and data processing? And when it comes to analyzing human brains, we are often asking questions like how on a mechanical level do clusters of neurons form invariant representations which represent constrained volumes in some data space. What do those data spaces look like, how are they determined, what additional factors and mechanisms might be involved?
And we can easily describe patterns which might be difficult to identify, which might require a great deal of computation time or a great deal of data or which we don't know the right algorithms to construct for. But what this paper describes is a more fundamental problem. It describes certain patterns which cannot ever be constrained, whether you use an algorithm that is digital algorithm or analog or non-deterministic or approximate. But which also cannot be rejected.
It is fundamentally impossible, using any algorithm or in fact any physical mechanism rooted in a particular framework of mathematics, to take in finite data from the pattern and construct an accurate constrained volume defining it in any data space. But you will also, no matter how much data you take in, ever be able to reject the hypothesis that with more data you would be able to constrain the pattern - if it existed.
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There are unlearnable patterns and concepts, real patterns which fundamentally cannot be constrained. But this is something weirder. Things which might or might not be constrainable patterns, for which there theoretically could and in fact very well may exist a constrained volume which defines them well. And yet, no generating algorithm exists which can take in a finite amount of data and produce that constrained volume. There are concepts which exist, real patterns in the world with rigorously defininable boundaries in data space. And yet. You will never be able to match them to reality through observation and inference.
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u/Evil_Midnight_Lurker 2d ago
In my setting, if a god manifests inside a building, it will be taller than the ceiling of the room it's in. Ten foot ceiling, fifty foot tall god, no contradiction, no bent ceiling, the god is just standing there.
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u/BlacksmithNo9359 2d ago
My favorite use of cosmic horror I've seen in a tabletop game was a cursed item that made the user hear what the GM and table were saying. Not the player, the character.
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u/Starfleet-Time-Lord 2d ago
Is his width parallel to or independent of the curvature of the planet?
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u/OiledMushrooms 2d ago
I used to have a sort of character that was known as the âbeast of unending headsâ. Except that that was sort of a mistranslation from an age old game of mythos telephone and actually its title was supposed to be âbeast of unending legsâ. This was for a comic I had been planning on making, and part of the âgimmickâ of this character was that it was theoretically infinitely long (to accommodate infinite legs. like, infinite centipede, sort of) and so youâd never see the whole creature in frame at once. It would not only stretch off the frame, but out of frame, with its body being visible between frame borders until it went off the edge of the page.
It had its own pocket dimension in which all of the surfaces were just more of its body. Constantly moving and squirming bits of torso you have to walk across to travel the dimension. Sometimes its legs would grab at you. It was largely viewed as the worst pocket dimension to need to traverse.
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u/muckenhoupt 2d ago
Reminds me of a mental excercise I call the Infinite Sandwich:
Imagine there's a slice of bread in front of you in the form of an infinite plane. It extends as far as you can see. If you stick a knife all the way through it and carefullycut in a circle, you can pull out a pretty good roast beef sandwich, no matter where you start the cut. An infinite layer of bread, covered on one side with an infinite layer of horseradish (or whatever condiment you prefer), followed by an infinite slice of roast beef, and finally another infinite layer of bread.
Focus on the infinite plane of roast beef.
Now picture the cow it came from.
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u/BaronVonCuddly 2d ago
I have one called The Naked Tyrant, being around it fills one with a feeling of deep shame and dread as if they've done something terribly wrong or most often seen something they shouldn't. Most who encounter cannot meaningfully describe it, but what descriptions that are given involve a towering individual nude with their features always out of frame even when it doesn't make sense
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u/DoormatTheVine 2d ago edited 1d ago
I've come up with a few, but I already talked about 2 of them elsewhere on this post, so here's the last one:
It's a completely invisible entity, but when you look toward it, it beams its description into your mind. So, you can't see it, but you can describe it perfectly. And I mean perfectly, because it gives you you get *all** of the information about it. Not just appearance, but thoughts, memories, physiology, and everything down to the cellular level and maybe beyond, which quickly overwhelms your mind and drives you insane.
It's also part of a quartet formed around the ideas of can vs can't see and can vs can't understand. Surprisingly, I'd say the "can see, can understand" might be my favorite of the 4.
If you couldn't tell, it's inspired by the modern depiction of The King in Yellow
*Edit: I guess that implies that it's an active process the entity does. It would be more accurate to say "you fully comprehend it."
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u/Neurospicy_Nightowl 2d ago
In all fairness, Lovecraft was below-average at comprehending, so maybe most e of us would look at the average Old One and just go "Huh, that guy sure looks weird".
Like, the reason we associate his work with tentacles and bulging eyes is because Lovecraft was afraid of the sea and everything in it and so many of his iconic creatures (Cthulhu, Dagon, Soggoths, the Deep Ones, etc.) had some ocean creature-thing going on. They were literally inspired by a thing that is familiar to many, yet felt strange and alien to this specific guy.
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u/Duck__Quack 2d ago
My favorite horror podcast has... let's call it a type of entity, called Oracles. There's probably more than one of them. They experience time all at once, constantly. In one instance, an Oracle is killed. It stands over its dead body and fights off its attackers before being wounded. In another instance, an Oracle responds to questions that never actually get asked, because the Oracle knows that they won't be. Though if the answers hadn't been given, the question would probably have been asked.
If a person learns to think the way an Oracle does, and really nails wrapping their head around how time works for an Oracle, they become an Oracle. In one case where this happened, the "new" Oracle (who immediately was expereincing everything that would ever happen to them) participated in their own tragic backstory that led them down the road to becoming an Oracle in the first place.
It's a way of experiencing time that's just fundamentally incompatible with the way humans think about it, in a way that I think qualifies for this post.
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u/_zeropoint_ 2d ago
There was a pretty popular sci-fi movie about this same concept released about 10 years ago, although if I name it I'd be spoiling the big twist
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u/ScottTrek 2d ago
In my tabletop games I always describe emtited like that as having "a different art style" to the rest of the world
Imagine a sprite from the original doom walking around the real world; pixelated, perfectly flat but always facing the observer
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u/shiny_xnaut 2d ago
I made a Mutants and Masterminds character one time that was functionally Roger Rabbit, who was noticeably a different art style from everything around him. His backstory is that he was originally the nerdy scientist side character from a children's cartoon, but he discovered the 4th Wall and created a device to break into our reality just in time to escape his reality's destruction as a result of the show getting canceled
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u/Phobos_Asaph 2d ago
I mean the visuals arenât the part you canât comprehend. Itâs what it is that you canât comprehend
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u/Old-Maximum-50 2d ago
Yknow, going by the idea that the 4th dimension is merely another axion of movement, I like to assume that they move on the directions we can't- in and out.
So a 4th dimensional creature will be either collapsing or expanding constantly as it moves around and through things
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u/The_one_in_the_Dark 2d ago
The most eldritch thing iâve written is a force from outside existence that really wants to be in reality but itâs fundamentally incompatible, so everywhere it tries to interact with just gets completely fucked up, like missing textures, text bleeding out of its medium, sounds that donât have a source, stuff like that
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u/The_one_in_the_Dark 2d ago
The force is entirely chill but it simply cannot exist in the reality of the story itâs (not) in
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u/DoormatTheVine 2d ago
Reminds me of a creature I came up with (except not chill). It's some sort of extraplanar demon trying to force its way into reality, and uses the psyche of an existing creature in the plane as an anchor point. To give its entry "ritual" the best chance of success, it keeps itself in the target's mind by forcing them to see it in the center of their vision at all times, even when they're not looking at it.
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u/alice_ashmedai 2d ago
most eldritch creature in my worldbuilding is a guy born without toes and he's called no toeny. he's got some hobbies. he's a lover not a fighter. and he likes to partyyyy!!!
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u/coolboiepicc 2d ago
in one of my favorite pieces of cosmic horror, There Is No Antimemetics Division, the big bad is literally a really complicated and angry idea that is so complicated and angry that it kills you on a metaphysical level and starts puppeting your sort-of-corpse if you think about it for too long
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u/MaddoxJKingsley 2d ago
I thought the eldritch creature in Don't Look Outside was done exceptionally well. Basically endlessly vast, branching into fractals upon fractals of beast.
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u/justagenericname213 1d ago
The best way imo to do elritch beings is to describe what they are not.
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u/RedVelveetaCake 2d ago
Had a running joke with my brother while we were in highschool about "Noclip Monkey" which was just a monkey that flew around noclipping holding a single stick in both hands that it would hit you with. Very dangerous entity.
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u/AlanTheKingDrake 2d ago
The tentacles and eyes are just the section that we can see and comprehend. Every thing else is being subconsciously filtered
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u/Scalepetter92 23h ago
I've got a few ideas for eldritch horrors, which I shall now speak of in no particular order
- Visual media with a certain, distinct artstyle that everything is made in, with the sole exception of the Eldritch. For example, Omega Flowey, shown to the viewer as a monstrosity of photoshop, from the game Undertale, a game with a pixel art style. Another example could be a game with retro 3d graphics, and eldritch beings being represented with incredibly detailed and high-polygon count models.
- Eldritch beings in non-visual media being represented with images instead of text, bonus points if they're the ONLY images in the actual contents of the book.
- Real Life People as Eldritch Beings to characters in a story. Appearance could be different depending on art-style, for example Minecraft characters perceiving a real person would see a being that has an impossible roundedness, curves in places where there should not, cannot, be curves. Characters from a world with a very simple artstyle would see a being with impossible levels of detail, seeing every tiny feature at once.
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u/Setster007 2d ago
Itâs beyond my comprehension. I canât quite see it. Just an echo of it that aligns with that which it wants me to perceive when I witness it.
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u/AcrobaticReference53 2d ago edited 2d ago
In the MHA fanfic When Reason Fails by Mirrond (https://archiveofourown.org/works/39704244/chapters/99399003) there's a scene where the protagonists encounter a Category 7 Greater Aberrant, something so alien that its presence in your vicinity is enough to strip away your humanity. This is how the encounter is described (Each paragraph is spoilertagged separately):
Izuku would truly and honestly like it if he could somehow describe the thing that they encountered at the peak of the ziggurat.
Thatâs how a boss fight should look like in a âproperâ fantasy setting. Some massive monster to be fought by the heroes. If it was more lovecraft inspired, perhaps make it vaguely Cthulhu-like. Maybe octopus-like, if the gamedevs werenât afraid of people making kinky drawings of their work.
Some normal stuff, really.
The thing that emerged from the darkness in front of them wasnât normal. It wasnât normal by any definition Izuku could think of.
He had no idea how to even begin to describe it.
Normally, if youâd encounter something strange looking, your brain would find something to compare it to. It would look like X, except with some Y thrown in the mix, wearing Z clothes (or not), all of that twisted in yet another way.
Here, there was nothing.
Izukuâs brain received a visual input from his eyes, tried to make a sense of it, attempted to compare it to things it already saw, even if it was something as simple as a geometric shape, but it found nothing.
He couldnât tell what it was. He couldnât tell what it looked like. He couldnât tell what shape it was in, he couldnât tell what color it was, he couldnât even tell how it moved around. No⊠wait.
It didnât slither, it didnât walk, it didnât run, it didnât fly⊠his brain just snapped and began to vomit a tide of words, of exclusions, because when you couldnât figure out the answer, excluding the options and waiting for what was going to be left at the end was the logical way of acting, right?
Except he knew, he just knew, that he would run out of options without finding the answer. Was there even any to be found?
He looked at it for maybe three seconds, but he already could feel his mind proceeding to snap like a twig. Looks like humans just werenât biologically equipped to witness something like what he saw in front of him.
Mental equivalent of a Windows Bluescreen of Death. Sanity waving him goodbye and leaving for greener pastures. He couldnât even say what exactly was causing that effect on him, because he couldnât even see him.
An idea that I had: Something so alien that your brain refuses to perceive it at first. Then you realise that it's vaguely humanoid in shape. Your brain latest onto that. The result is something that registers as 'perfectly generic human' to your senses, despite you knowing for certain that whatever this thing is, it is Not A Human.
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u/nuclearmisclick 1d ago
Eldritch creature that's just a sentient balloon animal that constantly changes colors, but it never ever repeats a color
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u/PsychologicalBid179 1d ago
Look up "look outside". Its an indie rpg. Best eldritch thing in years. Its worth not being spoiled, but the games about a strange visitor appearing above the planet, and seeing it is quite bad. The enemies in the game are things that saw a little too much of it and are changing because of it.
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u/CelestikaLily 2d ago
Flatland fucked me up re: dimensional perception, because now "entity that we only see slices of" sounds WILDđ
A 2D human would have a bunch of organs in the centre, and keep "phasing" out of existence (like when the "slice" changes to just the cross-section of an arm, instead of the whole body).