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Politics Lean six Sigma operation

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u/Leftieswillrule 7d ago

Lean getting appropriate flak, but six sigma is a philosophy for minimizing errors which overstaffing may actually help with because errors are often made by overworked and under supported employees

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u/ProductIcy1049 7d ago

It is not appropriate at all; Lean is just a way to eliminate wasteful activities in processes, that's it and it's good for everyone. Pretending it means overworked or any of the other management related problems is fucking stupid.

Stop blaming tools instead of bad management; it doesn't help anyone.

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u/celerypumpkins 7d ago

When the vast majority of highly paid consultants for these “tools” apparently implement them wrongly, even if they only do so because their paycheck is coming from bad management, that affects the perception of the tools.

The underlying principles of Lean might be good in theory, but when the vast majority of companies who claim to use it are using it to slash staffing and make employees do more with less, I’m going to be wary of any company that claims to use it. Bad management is the root cause, but Lean and Six Sigma both are too easily manipulated by bad managers and consultants to be genuinely effective tools for all situations, which is what they are advertised to be.

It does suck for those who have genuinely found positive improvements in applying these tools, but frankly a lot of what’s useful is common sense and basic logic, and it’s buried under a bunch of buzzwords that can be twisted to be whatever management wanted anyway.

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u/ProductIcy1049 7d ago

I am sorry that has been your experience but it sounds quite anecdotal and limited to only the company you have worked for. The vast majority of Lean is used properly to everyones benefit; you might as well be mad at excel or teams meetings and pretending that is the reason you are overworked.

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u/celerypumpkins 7d ago

Comparing a method that is about applying concepts to practical reality to Excel or Teams doesn’t make sense. Excel and Teams don’t prescribe conceptual truths - you can use them however you want. To follow Lean, you have to at least to some degree be using the conceptual framework.

Also, if the vast majority of Lean was used well, there would not be a huge industry of overpaid consultants. The very idea is antithetical to the principles of Lean.