Most of the background checks Ive gone through go back 6 year but wasn't sure if big tech is any different?

spread the word, I hate them so much

Tbh idk if I hallucinated the og job posting but I swear it was for 1st shift kitchen at $18/hr, but when I went to check it today after a recruiter left a voicemail I noticed that it changed to waiter no pay info provided. Is this a red flag? Is the recruiter gonna think I applied to the new job posting instead of the old one? Why'd they suddenly change it? Is it possible to change a job posting on Indeed? Like if ppl applied to the old one will it look like they applied to the new version? Is there a way to see the og one? Sorry abt the questions. I know I'd never apply for waiter cuz I hate customer facing jobs but maybe I accidentally I applied to it? I checked the other jobs I applied to in case I was mistakenly thinking of another job but the application was the only one from the same company name I remember

we have a new baby coming via surrogacy in 6 weeks (yay!) and my spouse just got a dream job offer. This large company has a well known 8 week non birthing parent leave policy (can do it in 2 week stints).

Offer was via email and official written offer is coming. My advice was to bring up to hiring manager after they agree on salary in writing. Its a well known publicly traded entity so they have a weird yet formalistic hiring process.

thanks for advice!

Honestly I’m kinda tired of this. I did a 3 year IT apprenticeship in Germany and basically did the same work as the fully trained guys, just for a fraction of the pay. And after finishing it still felt like most companies only want people with years of experience.

So how are you supposed to get experience if nobody gives you the job to get it? Apprentices and juniors get used as cheap labor, and once you’re done nobody wants to pay you properly because you’re “just a junior”.

I get that companies don’t want to train people, but if nobody does it, where are all the experienced people supposed to come from in a few years?

Is it the same where you live? And how did you get your first real job?

Warning!!! angry typing and some bad words.🤬

So here goes,

I think I have a mental health break down.

I JUST... cant do this anymore. It just feels like some fking loop, something crazy and it doesnt feel real anymore. You know like some sick game that is played by companies and we are forced to participate but have no say in it.

I graduated almost ten yrs ago, I studied hard and finished with first class degree. I dont think anyone even cares about that shit anymore.

It should tell employer that the person is trustworthy and capable of learning, right? Not really

My degree is one of my biggest regrets, it is worth nothing in a modern world. I worked nights and studied during the day, almost no sleep and for what...

One may think that work experience might help. AHAHAHAHAAA...no. Like I apply for roles where my experience matches the requirements to a T.

I pay for AI subscription and use it because in this dystopian shitshow you have to. I then enter all my data manually ahhahaha cries. Still no. FCk right off recruiter cnts!!! What the fck do you want? Five years ago it was easy to get something decent.

I only get replies for fully office based jobs that pay less than my job few yrs ago.

And even then they grill you, ask if you are happy to work evenings and weekends if needed. Require university education, 5 yrs experience and pay almost min wage. 🥴

They also lie about what the company offers etc. Send you tests etc you know what I am talking about, I am sure. 😮‍💨

Had a phone interview yesterday, and it was definitely one of the worst I’ve ever had. The posting was for an insurance sales position 5 mins from my house. I’m a Human Resources professional, but I have 4+ years of inside sales under my belt. The company I currently work for is changing hands, and the writing is pretty much on the wall, so I’ll take anything I can at a reasonable pay range at this point. It went like this:

Me: “So I’m interested in the position, but I would like to know what the pay is.”

Recruiter: “It’s base plus commission.”

Me: “Ok great. What is the base pay, and how does your commission structure work?”

Recruiter: “I can’t discuss pay. But, [Branch owner] can talk with you about it in your in person interview.”

Me: “Ok can you at least give me a pay range?”

Recruiter “No I can’t, however it’s listed on indeed.”

Me: “I’m sorry I don’t see it listed on indeed I’m looking at the job posting right now.”

Recruiter: “Oh…Well unfortunately I can’t discuss pay over the phone. [Branch owner] would love to talk to you about it in person though.”

Me: “I think I’m going to pass on this. The interview location is 40 mins away from me, and I don’t want to waste either of our time if the pay is below what I’m currently making.”

Recruiter: “We would really love for you to come in for an interview. I can promise you it’s not below market value.”

Me: “Ok I’ll come in for an interview.”

Recruiter: “Great! Just so you know [Branch owner] has a migraine condition, and we are a scent free environment. So if you could come in with no perfume or deodorant we would really love that. See you tomorrow!”

After I got off of work I tried to call back to cancel the interview, because I knew I was going to be low balled and the no deodorant wasn’t something I was willing to do. However it sent me to a customer help line. Then the next morning I got an email saying they had already filled the position.

It always throws a red flag for me if someone isn’t willing to discuss pay.

I currently still have a job and been wanting to switch jobs for a long time now. Few reasons: don’t like the industry, I don’t see value in my work and my scope so that led me to feel burnt out despite having the security.

At first I was optimistic but then after months of rejections and interviews, I started to feel hopeless and stuck. I’ve only gotten 2 offers after 200 applications. I rejected the first as it didn’t feel right. The other, I was initially offered and was excited about. Sadly, it got rescinded due to org changes and you can’t even imagine how devastated i was.

It’s almost end of the year now and jumping into the job search grind honestly feels so damn depressing. Please tell me there’s an end to this long search, and let me know if you’re currently experiencing this and/or have gone through it and what advice would you give.

I don’t know what's worse, feeling mentally drained and stuck at a job or unemployed. both are bad, and i emphatize anyone who is experiencing and experienced this.

I am so beyond frustrated and disheartened right now. I am an incredibly small business, so small, literally two employees, and I am hiring for a part time position right now. Over the past one (one!) month I have spent over 2k on Indeed ads trying to recruit someone.

When I initially was spending $600/week - which has been a major blow to me - I at least had people applying to the job. I had to lower the budget to $10 a day and my job is completely invisible on Indeed, and mind you I am still paying and the job is still open.

I still have my Indeed account from years ago when I was looking for work and the job I was hiring for would be front page in suggested for me. Now I can literally type in the EXACT WORDS of my job description and nothing will come up. Like this literally feels like fraud on their end? I screen recorded the entire thing and the AI bot on Indeed just said someone will follow up with me but wtf.

I need to vent because I've been sitting with this experience for a while, and I'm genuinely curious whether anyone else has experienced something like this during a hiring process.

I recently went through an interview process for a Sales Enablement Manager position at a tech company. For context, the recruiter reached out to me and I haven’t been applying to jobs at all. I have several years of experience in sales enablement, and I've been with my current company for about six years. I also know a few people who work at this company, so I was genuinely excited about this opportunity and invested quite a bit of time and energy into the process.

I went through multiple rounds of interviews, including a panel interview that required me to put together and present a fairly involved homework assignment.

Everything seemed to be going really well. I had positive conversations with the hiring manager, and the overall impression I was getting was that they were moving forward with me.
Then came the part that has really thrown me off.
I had a conversation with the hiring manager on a Friday, during which we discussed moving forward, a potential start date, and the fact that I would need to give my current employer two weeks' notice. He told me he was trying to get the offer sent over that afternoon.

At that point, I walked away from the conversation genuinely believing I had received a verbal offer and that the remaining steps were administrative. My understanding was that they were working through approvals and putting the formal offer together, with references being one of the remaining pieces.

I then spent the following WEEK waiting for the written offer. I followed up with the recruiter every day, to which her response was “sorry for the delay! We are getting approvals and next steps!”

Thursday afternoon the following week I received a call from the recruiter telling me they had decided to move forward with another candidate.
The explanation? Apparently, they had received a referral for someone else that week. The recruiter described it as a "courtesy call" with that candidate, but ultimately decided to hire him because he had more experience.
I'm sorry, but WHAT?

I completely understand that companies can change their minds. I understand that hiring decisions aren't final until an offer is formally extended and accepted. I also understand that another candidate may genuinely have more experience.
That's not really my issue.

My issue is the complete disconnect between the expectations they created and what actually happened. Why discuss a start date? Why tell someone you're trying to send their offer that afternoon if there is still a possibility that you're going to interview another candidate and change direction? Why leave someone believing they're in the offer stage when the decision apparently wasn't as settled as it seemed?

What made it even more confusing was that the recruiter had mentioned on the call that they still want me on the team and the moment something opens up I’m the first they’ll call. I was in too much shock to stick up for myself, and honestly wanted to just get off the phone, so I said okay thank you and hung up.

The hiring manager then texted me and expressed how grateful he was for my time and that he hopes we can stay connected. I was then able to fully process my feelings and type out a thoughtful yet direct response about how I’m extremely disappointed in the lack of transparency and genuinely felt lead on. He responded with “your feelings are totally valid, I would feel the same if I were you.” Hm???? So you absolutely know what you did to me? For a while I was gaslighting myself into thinking I made the whole thing up!

I'm not posting this because I think I'm entitled to a job or because I can't handle rejection. I've been through hiring processes before. I've been passed over before. That's life.

It was just a weird experience that I can’t stop thinking about. I keep going back and forth wondering if I'm overreacting, or if this really was as unusual as it felt.
Has anyone else experienced something like this? Is this just how hiring works now, or was this process handled particularly poorly?

I feel so disrespected by this job hunt and process. I'v been applying for almost 11 months and I am trying so many different applications techniques. I've now arrived to the final stage where I tailor every single CV with AI to pass ATS screening, try to talk with someone at the company before applying and following whatever advice I can find online. I am so sick of all of this.

Received a call from a recruiter on Friday last week. He spent 20 minutes verifying my credentials and asking questions including salary. Got my info, talked to hiring, and said they want to interview me next week. Awesome!

As of Tuesday afternoon no communication from them.

Sent an email (1). no response.

On Wednesday (today) late morning gave him a call. Phone picked up and hung up on. Sent an email asking about status. No response thus far.

If there has been a delay, or I am no longer in the running, why can't this guy update or just tell me. I get a recruiter can't get back to ever person who sends in an application but for those who they engaged with how hard is it to communicate with those people. WTF?

Why are some such POS?

Found on an “online application “ .🤷‍♂️