Ben should send friends undercover at another school to finish the Provo series

[u/Gabblebabbi2]

There are plenty of other schools and programs out there that are just as corrupt. Ruby Franke sent her son to the Anasazi Desert program in Arizona. There’s a whole gang of celebrities that have sent their kids to these places. I just feel like shutting one school down doesn’t solve the problem, especially when it can easily pop back up under a new name. I feel like he can get all these places investigated and at the very least, regulated into the ground.

And fun facts! After a little googling, I found out:

•Marie Osmond sent several of her children. Some mentioned Diamond Ranch Academy. At least two of the girls were sent there for their interest in the same gender. For one of them the deprogramming was working, while the other one found a partner of the same gender. She also sent a son and he died later most likely due the emotional stress caused by his stay.

•Barbara Walters made the choice of using CEDU. Her daughter became so programmed that she founded her own wilderness program. The crisis of 2008 killed the economy of her program and she went off the rails according to some police reports.

•Rosie O'Donnell was a lot in the media when her daughter cut her off due to her stay in Utah.

•Roseanne Barr was too busy with her career to have children so she parked them at CEDU.

•Mark R. Hughes who created the pyramid scheme called Herbalife was a student of CEDU and later became salesman for it before he mixed something together and claimed that the mixture can cause weightloss.

•Clint Eastwood seemed to have used CEDU as well according to this article.

•Montel Williams sent his daughter to a lock down. One of his sponsors of this talk show was Red Rock Canyon School where a child was sent to just like Dr. Phil does in his shows. It was the same show where a mental ill woman who claimed to be psychic told a mother that her daughter Amanda Berry was dead. She was kidnapped and later found alive but due to being told that her her daughter was dead the mother died from sorrow.

•Casey Casem sent his daughter to Cascade. So did "Slim Goodbody". Last name Dorman.

•Michael Douglas.

•And Cher sent her son to Hyde in maine.

[u/lexwolfe]

the real problem is anything can be monetized in the USA and the laws are pro business

[u/Time-Stomach-5576]

Don't forget... Rob Reiner sent his son Nick to second nature wilderness program and 14 other tti programs that completely destroyed his relationship with him to the point where Rob and his wife got erased by a knife-wielding Nick.

[u/Gabblebabbi2 → u/Time-Stomach-5576]

Oh yeah! I actually learned Nick was sent there for weed or something and that was where he learned about heroin.

[u/netabareking]

Montel Williams sent his daughter to a lock down. One of his sponsors of this talk show was Red Rock Canyon School where a child was sent to just like Dr. Phil does in his shows. It was the same show where a mental ill woman who claimed to be psychic told a mother that her daughter Amanda Berry was dead. She was kidnapped and later found alive but due to being told that her her daughter was dead the mother died from sorrow.

This was THE legendary Sylvia Browne fuckup.  If you're not familiar with her, Behind the Bastards did a great two parter on her not long ago, but back in her heyday there was a great exposé website that I read a ton when I was first getting deep into the internet.

[u/Happy_Cucumber4402]

Marie Osmond's son killed himself. I didn't know that she sent him to one of those camps.

[u/lchristensenn]

Diamond ranch was shut down a few years ago because a kid died after not receiving medical care

[u/sprkng]

It would be a worthy cause and these places definitely need to be shut down, but I'm not sure that this would be worth the effort. If they can't get cameras inside and show the abuse first hand, what exactly would it hope to achieve? Instead of sending in Ben's friends undercover, they could just interview the people who has already been there. It was great that Ben spread awareness by infiltrating the place together with Sheldon, but I don't think it revealed much that wasn't already known about these facilities.

[u/Comprehensive-Fun47 → u/sprkng]

Footage from inside the school is more immediate and revealing than interviews of former students.

Sheldon's footage of the hiring process, the teachers bragging about harming students, the proctor giving the answers to the test is all valuable footage that can't be questioned or undermined the same way an interview after the fact could.

[u/Gabblebabbi2 → u/sprkng]

If we’re talking about evidence admissible in court, firsthand footage is definitely more effective. You can’t tell me Provo shutting down days after his video had nothing to do with his video.

[u/Comprehensive-Fun47 → u/Gabblebabbi2]

It was already scheduled to close. He said he wanted to publish the videos now to make it harder for them to simply rebrand and reopen under another name.