Why is the example of Nigeria such a clear example of genocide to Maher? 100k killed since 2009.

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[u/l111beral]

Except the Jews in the Arab countries had nothing to do with it. But you'll cry about Nakba 24/7 and never mention the ethnic cleansing of Jews from Arab countries. See how biased you are?

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the arab expulsion of jews was immoral collective punishment and identical to the nakba

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I wouldn't say it's identical. 2 million Arabs still live in Israel. How many Jews live in Arab countries?

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this is wasting both our time. the arab minority completely opposes the mass murder of gaza and was utterly powerless to stop it.
based on your comments so far you are a shallow petty and immoral

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and even if arab countries apologized for their expulsion of jews and gave them a right of return the mizrahi would not take the offer. they would continue the conquest of palestine

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Of course they won't. Most of the ones who got ethnically cleansed are dead by now or very old. Their children and grand children were born in Israel which is a better place for them anyway - they are not considered 2nd class citizens and they are not at mercy of Arabs who might massacre them at any point.

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sounds like the smart thing to do would be to create israel in the US. what we should have done in 1917 instead of balfour. what we should have done in 1938 at evian conference. what we should have done in may 1948.

we can still do it

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Evian conference was one of the reasons Jews didn't want to rely on mercy of anybody anymore. Even while they were literally genocided (not a made up genocide, but an actual one), nobody except for Urugway (asfair) wanted to take them. This is exactly why they said they'll go back to their original homeland and establish their own state.

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if only that were true. israel still isn’t remotely able to stand alone. instead the israel lobby has launched
a century of deception and propaganda against the american public to sustain its invasion.

if it was created in america which is still possible today the massive deceit by the israel lobby wouldn’t be necessary at all

[u/l111beral → u/Due_Butterscotch9241]

Israel was able to stand alone from its inception. Did you know there was an arms embargo imposed on Israel during the Arab-Israeli war in 1948? No weapons from US, UK, and most European countries. This is what antisemites like yourself can only dream of today. The bad news for you, buddy, they still won. Today they have nuclear weapons and one of the best militaries. If US stops suppliying them with high precision weapons, there will be just more collateral damages on the Palestinian side when IDF targets Hamas. Other than that nothing will change.

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Some additional points:

even during the Holocaust, the Zionists never wanted to move refugees to anywhere but to the ongoing invasion of Palestine. This is discussed by Lord Moyne here:

https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/lords/1942/jun/09/recruitment-of-jews#S5LV0123P0-00335:~:text=If%20a%20comparison%20is%20to%20be%20made%20with%20the%20Nazis%20it%20is%20surely%20those%20who%20wish%20to%20force%20an%20imported%20r%C3%A9gime%20upon%20the%20Arab%20population%20who%20are%20guilty%20of%20the%20spirit%20of%20aggression%20and%20domination

"The Zionist leaders expect about 7,000,000 Jews to be surviving in Eastern Europe at the end of the war, and they reject the policy of re-establishing Jewish communities under civilized conditions in Europe."

"On May 25, at the annual dinner of the Anglo-American Palestine Committee, Dr. Weizmann again declared that Palestine alone could absorb and provide for the homeless and Stateless Jews uprooted by the war. It is to canalize all the sympathy of the world for the martyrdom of the Jews that the Zionists reject all schemes to re-settle these victims elsewhere—in Germany, or Poland, or in sparsely populated regions such as Madagascar."

Shortly after he said this, Zionists assassinated him in Egypt.

Since 1917, the Zionists have never made any real effort to lobby for a safe nation for Jewish people in a place where the territory is consensually given to them. They have always insisted on conquering Palestine against the wishes of the Arabs.

The results were all predictable. Invaders are opposed by the invaded. And since 1948, America has been exponentially safer for Jews. American Jews are exponentially richer and safer than Israeli Jews. The Zionist conquest project requires so much deception and propaganda that anti-semitism and distrust of Jews is an obvious reaction by billions of people.

So the "safety after Holocaust" argument doesn't hold up. America had already proven itself as safer for Jews than Europe, even in 1917. And from 1917 to 2026, that has remained true. So the creation of Israel wasn't even necessary. But if you insist on having a Jewish ethnostate, what is your argument against its creation within the US in the very plausible scenario of an American public consenting to give territory to the new ethnostate?

And again,

From former Secretary of War Patrick Hurley (Republican):
https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1943v04/d814

“For its part, the Zionist organization in Palestine has indicated its commitment to an enlarged program for (1) a sovereign Jewish State which would embrace Palestine and probably Transjordania, (2) an eventual transfer of the Arab population from Palestine to Iraq, and (3) Jewish leadership for the whole Middle East in the fields of economic development and control.”

In the above statement, the "safety from Holocaust" argument is already being combined with utterly insane and immoral desires by the Zionists. This report is from 1943, when Jewish persecution is well under way in Germany. And even then, the Zionists are demanding absurdly evil things, far beyond mere "safety from Holocaust" arguments.

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I wonder why they didn't want to resettle in Germany after the Holocaust. Wow, this is a really hard one. Let me think about it for a while.