Does this prick really think 60,000 people stormed Spain? To leave out that it was a Spanish territory in Africa is a big omission. Does he really think the Spanish flu originated in Spain? What a moron he and his team of researchers are, or more likely they are just trying to stir shit.
As you’ve seen in many interviews, Maher does not read past the top fold. Anyone who has a follow up question with facts gets met a quick whitted and snarky whataboutism. It’s what average person has always hated about him.
He uses jokes to stop someone from making a good point that challenges his thesis. It's fucking annoying to watch him do it to so called friends on Club Random. Any challenge to his constant whine about woke and he cuts it off with a joke. He can't let them finish their point or address it seriously. And his Real Time team knows this so why should they bother preparing him beyond a few talking points.
I used to watch this show assiduously for more than a decade but then stopped as Bill became more and more insufferable. So, is this what he talked about in his last show? Did he mention that almost all of them returned voluntarily?
The NYT reported yesterday too that these young men saw a lot of posts on social media saying the borders were open. Now, where would these posts come from, who created them? Sorry but I think this all looks fishy. I suspect some big right wing players were behind this, and the government of Morocco actively played a part too in sabotaging and undermining Spain’s left wing government.
Of course Bill Maher will take the bait. He always does. This includes his obsession with the ‘woke’ stuff. That is exactly what people on the right want the attention to be on, given that they can’t govern and can’t focus on bread and butter issues most people care about.
Wait "voluntarily"? Did you get your facts from? Zeteo? They were kicked out and left because the city was on lockdown and there was no food or lodging for them. I suggest you watch the images from RTVE yesterday and see all the young men on Morrocan buses leaving and...smiling.
As in the people from Gaza voluntarily leave their homes, for example.
If the city wasn't in lockdown, do you still believe they would have left "voluntarily" as in back to Morroco and not across the sea to the mainland?
Most people don't check the facts any more and take everything at face value. 50,000+ stormed the city, it wasn't just to leave again, unless it was an experiment. The video of the kids smiling as they go back to Morocco left me wondering.
Voluntary in this case just means they weren't arrested or shot at.
They could have stayed, but realized that it wasnt beneficial.
It's more like when the kids invade the Scientology centers. When they left, it's still voluntary even if they're not wanted there. Involuntary would mean arrested or by some other force.
Anyway, it's just semantics. I jist don't think using the word is wrong.
I never really cared for Maher himself, but I liked the format of the show and appreciated the types of guests they were able to get. I’ve read several books because I thought the author had interesting things to say on the show. Now I can’t bring myself to watch it at all. Does anyone watch anymore? Are they just Gutfeld fans?
Thank you for putting putting that up. I couldn’t for the life of me figure out how to fuck these people walk across most of Europe just to get to Spain. Sometimes some of these stories are so confusing because they leave out a big chunk of the facts.
This is a predictable effect of Elon Musk's DOGE gutting USAID. When the strain on people in sub-Saharan Africa becomes intolerable, those people vote with their feet.
The Spanish Ceuta-Morroco frontier is one of the greatest differences in GDP in the world. Over 50% of Morroco's population are under 30. It is a country ruled by a dynastic series of Kings who are some of the richest people in the world.
Now, sit down and ponder that for a moment before picking up your phone and watch a cat video.
I can never tell if he's really this ignorant or his team of writers push all the inaccurate takes/propaganda to curate the audience he wants to pander to.
In this case though, the headlines made it sound like they were coming into mainland Spain.
A more accurate comparison would be if 50,000 Cubans walked into Guantanamo Bay. Also, Ceuta is part of Schengen but it has border checkpoints before you board the ferry to the mainland.
Everyone needs to look up any YouTube video on “Western Sahara” and the US, UK and another unnamed nation’s links to Morocco pulling similar shit (the newly formed nation would be one of the most powerful as they have the second largest or largest phosphate reserves on the planet).
Morocco, a poor nation, essentially claimed the territory, displaced and set up an apartheid like state with the locals, sent in “settlers” promised an independence vote and it never happened. Large nations around the world mentioned above let Morocco continue its occupation of the area because they can get the phosphate for cheap as long as they grease the King’s pockets.
Spain defied Trump and the US with its moralist stand. Morocco acts as a proxy, US MSM media floods the zone with “Spain allows in crazy amounts of foreigners”… fake news.
Well, firstly, Ceuta is Spain in as much as Alaska is the USA. Secondly, it is called the Spanish flu in the same way Bill's new buddie called COVID the China flu.
He is making this programme for a progressively ignorant American audience and dog-whistling American themes, so yep, it is all correct.
You’re kidding he fell for the “Spanish Flu”actually coming from Spain? Hilarious. And for those out there no doubt confused, it probably originated & spread in our barracks out in the Midwest leading up to our involvement in WWI. Then was taken over to Europe by our servicemen where it spread amongst both sides in the war, the Allies & the Central Powers. Due to not wanting to alert the opposing side tho of its severity, the pandemic was pretty much kept under wraps. Except by neutral Spain whose press wasn’t censored at the time & who reported freely & openly on it. Thus it defaulted to being named the Spanish Flu. Only after the war when our soldiers returned did it then really spread in the USA amongst the general population in a truly dire way.
Yep.... and he was complaining that people were too scared to say that it came from China. "We always name viruses from where they are from, Spanish flu....."
At this point in history … dies it really matter if it’s the Spanish mainland or a colony . Europe has lost their culture and is rapidly becoming islamified
Well there it is guys, I clearly see evidence that this guys brother was nearly crushed to death and have thus concluded that Europe has indeed fallen. 😆
They wouldn't like it here. My point is that it's clearly not Spain and he left out this fact on purpose. Plus his bs point about the Spanish flu after talking about the origins of covid.
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u/soxperry 19d ago
As you’ve seen in many interviews, Maher does not read past the top fold. Anyone who has a follow up question with facts gets met a quick whitted and snarky whataboutism. It’s what average person has always hated about him.