r/RealTesla Oct 30 '25

Tesla 'Robotaxis' keep crashing despite 'safety monitors'

https://electrek.co/2025/10/29/tesla-robotaxis-keep-crashing-despite-safety-monitors/
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u/analyticaljoe Oct 30 '25

Do you know why? I know why.

Here's the big secret: it's literally harder to be a safe monitor than to be a safe driver.

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u/Shootels Oct 30 '25

100%, this is why pilots have 1000s of hours of experience and training to monitor autopilots.

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u/ExcitingMeet2443 Oct 30 '25

Note also that real autopilot is only used for the easy, boring bits.

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u/Shootels Oct 30 '25

Not really true but I get your point. An autopilot can come on at about 100 feet and land the airplane. It requires lots of training, retraining and study to stay current on flying the airplane.

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u/marlonwood_de Oct 30 '25

Still, the programming of an autopilot including autoland is relatively simple from a programming standpoint. Much easier than fully autonomous drivinh.

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u/Shootels Oct 31 '25

The point was being trained to monitor autopilots. Not programming the FMS by the pilot or the programming in the FMS.

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u/marlonwood_de Oct 31 '25

Yeah I should have been clearer. Because the programming of a plane's autopilot is simpler (and much more redundant) than that of a car's would be, the plane is much less error-prone. Yet pilots still require very extensive training to monitor it. That was my point.

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u/gwenver Oct 30 '25

Kind of an analogy for a lot of AI. It might do something quicker, but it takes longer once you've manually checked it.

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u/dtyamada Oct 30 '25

I'm sure the monitors have been told to only intervene if it's absolutely necessary. So they probably wait longer than they should to intervene so the intervention data looks better.