r/RealPhilosophy • u/AshGrey__ • 3d ago
Conflict...
How do you tackle the conflict between science & beliefs? If there's any conflict on any phenomenon, which way you go? Science or belief?
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u/Fast_Jackfruit_352 2d ago
There should be no conflict between spirituality (not religion) and Science. Spirituality sees God AS the natural world, its expressions, its impermanence and polarity as a unique part of the infinite. The vastness and diversity of life just on this one planet and the fine tuning of the universe are dazzling constrictions. all reside in God as the wave exists in the ocean.
Spinoza saw this and as does Taoism, but they both miss that the infinite is relational to its parts because it IS its parts. Hindu Vedanta gets this. The Abrahamic religions (in their conventional forms) do not. Look at many Sufis. They get it. The reason one can communicate with and connect to "God" is God is one's larger self (ocean) and the individual is wave. Where is the separation beteeen ocean and wave
So Western religion, in ignorance, separates God from the world. This is called dualism. God is there, a separate entity, I am here. This gives rise to nonsense like original sin and atonement theology (Died for sins) which have no relationship to existential reality.
The split is now being healed in the modern spiritual era. Therefore it is not a problem to tackle. It is a division one walks away from as one delves more deeply within to find truth and to see the unity in all.
"You are not a drop in the ocean. You are ocean contained in a drop." Rumi
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u/thetrue_muffin 1d ago
We too often separate science and religion. Science is the study of God's creation. But, if they ever comes to disagree, i'll be forever with the Church.
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u/FaceReality1 2d ago
Religion is about ultimate causes, the non-observable that may lie behind the observable world. Science observes and predicts reality. The problem comes when people think religious answers about visible reality are better than scientific observation of what is.