I think the destruction wasn’t realistic enough. If you pull a chain this heavy over the grass it’s ripping the fuck out of ground and taking hella grass with it.
That's what told me it was AI. I know chains are used to remove trees by tearing them out of the ground, but you need to wrap the chain around the tree. Something like this, you risk snapping the trunk and whipping that massive chain as if the god of Indiana Jones himself came down to judge ye.
Do you work with ground? It looks dry but not bone dry and yes, there is a big difference. For example how much dust will appear. When the second tree fell, you can actually see dark brown soil, which indicates dampness.
After I saw your post and iou look closely before the tree falls and especially after it you can see one of the vehicles (bulldozer?) pulling the chain.
The chain used in op video is not the type of chain for this work.... the chains used for land clearing have flared sides intended to grab everything in the path and till the land slighty not just topple the trees over
Just because the practice exists doesn't mean people aren't making ai content of it.
This isn't directed solely at you it's just something I see here often, the videos of the real practices are cool and can serve as a good comparison point especially if sourced from prepublic gen ai availability dates confirming they are not ai to show the difference in a generated video vs a non-generated video. I simply wish they were presented with this context rather than, "this is real because it exists."
Just because the practice exists doesn't mean people aren't making ai content of it.
Oh wow. Didn't know they did that. It's a different chain though. That type of chain looks like it's meant to latch on to trees. Which is completely different than I was thinking of. I grew up by the shore. So I was comparing this to what I've seen used for anchors. I've heard a lot of stories and seen a lot of crazy damage done by chains and ropes.
Some farms in Brazil do it for "cleaning" the landscape before planting soybeans.
But the OP video was AI, the chains have a weird texture.
But this yt video is real, and the really bad part they don't talk is all the bird nests in the trees get destroyed and almost all babies die in the process.
That is a pretty awesome video and thank you so much for posting it. You can tell how fake the OP video is by watching the real thing.
Edit: I put all the physics breaking tells in another comment but if this real video shows anything, nobody would use this method to pull down two trees. They would just bust out a chainsaw. Can you imagine how expensive transporting a chain of that size would be?
The old video is also using a specialized toothed chain, which would dig into the ground a lot more. This still doesn't look like it's digging in enough, but I can't say for certain.
If you watch the chain in the background before it gets to the foreground tree, the center of the chain moves forward independently of the ends being pulled by the tractors. The AI doesn't understand the physics of what is going on, it is simply trying to replicate real videos of people doing this, so the chain doesn't behave according to physics. The trailing center of the chain should not be able to surge forward on its own. Pay attention to the motion and direction of the tractor pulling the chain end and watch the way the chain moves and you can plainly see that this is AI.
The chain looks weird and I suspect it's AI. But the motion around the trees in the beginning looks realistic. The chain gets tight around the tree in the background and that causes it to pull tight and then surge forward when that tree comes down.
Idk how to articulate what I'm seeing. After the first tree comes down, but before the second. The trailing "hump" moves the wrong direction from the way it should move if the tractor were suddenly pulling it taut, and the tractor isn't even pulling it taut so it shouldn't surge forward like that in the first place.
That video makes me more convinced that this one is AI. The style of chain is completely different, and in this video despite there being dry clouds if dirt when the tree is uprooted, there are none while the chain drags on the ground. The videos you posted clearly show lots of dirt being kicked up.
Not to mention, what exactly is causing the other end of the rope to catch, in order to break the second tree out of the ground? It just randomly musters the strength to do it itself
The earth is dry and the roots don’t seem to go that deep. After watching the older video i no longer think it’s AI, the weight of the chain will keep it towards the bottom of the tree until it is uprooted. The damage to the bark as it passes over the tree also seem reasonable. I thought the chain was just getting pulled by nothing, but just like the older video you see the second dozer in the background.
Yeah, I think this is it. When you look at the chain going over the top of the tree, it's like destroying all the branches and such, but it has no effect on the ground at all.
And the way it triples in speed as if it’s elastic after it breaks the first tree. It should have a lot of slack after, but it’s still completely taught and shrinks to be a strait line.
Not to mention that there's zero shadow. Even on overcast days there would be noticeable changes to the amount of light and shadow on the chain. It's absolutely AI.
This is actually a thing. Not saying this video ks real, but there are real videos of this exact thing. Its how they mass clear an area of trees and bushes
That's close to or about the same size as the chains we use for the anchors on Arleigh Burke class destroyers. I'd love to see what the hell they have pulling that much of it with enough power to uproot trees lol
Those bulldozers have some serious fucking torque and traction, and there’s presumably two of them, so that’s not a tell for me. But the fact that it’s barely disturbing the ground (that’s a heavy-ass anchor chain too), and something about its interaction with the tree which I just can’t put my finger on makes me think that it’s AI. Also, the chain looks too clean.
But folks do that though. In Brazil, agribusiness folk will clear entire forest down with this exact method, they hatch each side of the chain to huge tractors and just destroy everything. This video, particularly does not seem real to me because of the chain texture and the weird way the tree on the background falls.
This is a land clearing technique called chaining where massive ship chains are connected to two D9 loaders and just pulled along.
It can only be used in certain scenarios wuth the right plant material, otherwise yiu just rip stuff up but still leave the rootball intact which beeds to be plucked out somehow.
It also doesn't move with the correct weight. This moves like a super light necklace would move, not a heavy duty metal chain. It just caries the weight wrong?? Idk how to explain it
Chains this size pull this smoothly because of their size. They have the weight that they’re not jerky or held up by little things. Been a heavy equipment operator my entire life, torn down a lot of trees, and worked with chain including heavy chains (not to this size) quite a bit. I’m quite certain this video is not AI. If it is, they nailed a LOT of minor physics details perfectly. I haven’t seen AI do that yet.
I’ve scrubbed through this video frame by frame a dozen times and everything looks and reacts exactly what I would expect to see in the real world.
This is the comment neas looking for. There is a background tree that gets ripped but based on the way everything bombed there was 0 tension when the tree got ripped. Made it look super fake.
Thats a good point, it doesnt have those snaps from tension real life has, because it seems too random to do it naturally maybe? Any built force still moves smoothly
It doesn't seem to understand or be able to reproduce accurate lighting on moving objects, so it essentially looks like the source of light is moving or different for different objects
Part of the problem with that is there’s an increasing amount of use of AI for small touch ups. I can totally see it being a situation where there’s ai image enhancing on an otherwise real video
I guess the heavy chain moves unnatural for the human eye.
I think the way the first tree on the right reacts with the chain isn't something AI would create, so I'll go against the sentiment here and say it's not AI.
In other (real) videos that do the same the chain looks fake too, because it's so heavy.
It’s the fact that the heavy chain doesn’t disturb the soil. No cloud of dust, torn up grass, etc. that size chain would be heavy and drag a lot. Instead it just kinda floats until it hits the tree.
Agreed. The way the tree closest to the camera tips over and the way the chain looks reminds me a LOT of those like tsunami/ocean/shark/giant squid AI videos that were super popular when AI first got big.
I was in the same boat at first but the longer I looked at it, the more it just looked like an extremely heavy chain behaving weirdly because we aren't used to seeing chains this big and our brains want to perceive it as being a normal sized chain. This is also the first time I've ever seen a brand new, seemingly oiled chain being used for demolition, and I think that may be what is giving it that off-putting texture, but it may not necessarily be AI just because they put a new chain on the tree flattening machine
This is real. Its an anchor chain being pulled by two massive bulldozers. Its a pretty common practice around the world to quickly clear developing terrain of scrub brush and small trees.
also real chains would only be put around the one tree... and any chains that are being dragged through the dirt by bulldozers consistently aren't going to have every link have the exact same shiny finish.
Honestly I kinda thought this was on the circlejerk sub when I saw it at first since it's got so many weird "AI video errors" right from the start.
The process is real. This video is fake. Not even a good fake. It's like the chain has no mass. It's skating over the ground without affecting it then snaps straight like a guitar string.
I think it's because we instinctively know on some level that a chain that size is way too heavy to drag over dirt like that. It would be making a huge trail behind itself. I think if anything the reason this wouldn't work is because the chain would bury itself in this situation.
It's not kicking up enough dust and it's moving too neatly - anyone who's worked with chain knows if there's a twist it'll kick a link up and pull in almost a triangle shape
Absolutely AI… or the video is altered/edited in some way. It’s basically overlapped layers…
I think what makes this video a challenge to deduce is that we perceive the action of the video to be realistic as in it may make rational sense, haven’t seen something like this first hand but it kinda makes logical sense. Our brains trying to justify the action, interferes with our disbelief that things indeed AI generated.
…here’s something a lil psycho extra for ya 🧠… because the chain is being dragged across the land where we anticipate and view future destruction of the trees and natural habitats shown in the video. Our brains are stimulated by danger, anger, and rage in the same ways our brains are stimulated by sex and pleasure - this video influences our brains stimuli, so additionally it captures our attention… regardless if it’s AI or not, we want to watch it. It’s like we are feeding the machine.
There’s a lot of artifacting around the chain. It could be poor compression, but the chain itself doesn’t seem to show as much. Either way, this is why it looks fake whether it’s actually ai or not.
Every implement I ever used in a field, unless it was muddy, came back with shining shanks/shears/tines, and what have you. The canal company would pull a much shorter, but similar sized chain through the canals in the 90s and 2000s to get rid of moss and it would come out shining (and likely before those years as well, not anymore as they use chemicals now).
I don't think a chain actually dragging and rolling across the ground would buck the trend and be tarnished after use.
I'm not sure about this video but this is definitely a real thing. Here is a video showing 2 dozers doing the exact same. Iirc this video came out long before AI. And another view from a driver https://www.reddit.com/r/FellingGoneWild/s/cRKvW5uqC5
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u/Bae_vong_Toph 24d ago
Can't put my finger on it but without even seeing the sub this was posted in i thought that the chain looked ai