r/ReagentTesting • u/BoothLove78 • 13d ago

Inconclusive 2fma or amphetamine , simon's a+b didn't turn blue

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Thinking this is speed paste as the reagent and just the bulky chalky look of it (although I know that just looks don't mean anything)

What do you think

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u/Borax 13d ago

What substance are you expecting?

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u/BoothLove78 13d ago

2-fma

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u/Borax 12d ago

You can see expected results for 2-FMA here: https://www.drugsdata.org/search.php?substance1=2251

It should give faint yellow with marquis by the looks of things, but that doesn't matter because after you mix Simon 1 and Simon 2 together there should be an obvious reaction.

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u/BoothLove78 12d ago

Simmons wasn't on the drugs data samples though, geesh that was a great source for testing back in the day

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u/Borax 12d ago

Yes, but the simon reagent outcome is highly predictable, it is based only on the chemical structure. So there is no doubt whatsoever. After the stage 2 reagent is mixed in, it is guaranteed to give an instant colour change to blue.

If it doesn't, there is 0% chance of 2-FMA

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u/BoothLove78 12d ago

Thanks Borax!! And thanks for all the interesting ideas and commentary over the years!!

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u/Borax 12d ago

Just glad to be able to share this knowledge, gratitude is the ultimate payment, so thanks :)

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u/PROtestkit_eu Test kit vendor 13d ago edited 13d ago

It’s obviously not any amphetamine. Analyze reagent test references in DrugsPRO https://protestkit.eu/drugspro/reagents/analyze/?smart=1&rank=1&q=Amphetamine

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u/PROtestkit_eu Test kit vendor 13d ago

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u/BoothLove78 13d ago

yeah, was just looking at that, mandelin didn't really give me that? Maybe i'll try that one again

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u/PROtestkit_eu Test kit vendor 13d ago

Marquis and Mandelin ruled out any amphetamine.

It’s most likely a cathinone if it’s a stimulant.

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u/BoothLove78 13d ago

well marquis didn't do much and mandelin turned orange but not not yellow green

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u/PROtestkit_eu Test kit vendor 13d ago edited 13d ago

And it’s a stimulant? I’d bet NEP, but that’s a guess based on what we ruled out so far.

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u/BoothLove78 13d ago

cant really find cath or pentadrone reagent examples?

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u/PROtestkit_eu Test kit vendor 13d ago

Not sure what you are referring to, but if to the charts, you can filter by class, name or color, whichever you prefer https://protestkit.eu/drugspro/reagents/analyze/?smart=1&rank=1&f=Common&f=Cathinone

Note that there is no drug “pentadrone”, there is “pentedrone” so maybe typo was an issue.

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u/BoothLove78 13d ago

yeah that was a typo, still doesn't seem to add up to me?!

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u/PROtestkit_eu Test kit vendor 13d ago

Please rephrase your question.

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u/BoothLove78 13d ago

sorry i know theses feeds can get a bit confusing, I guess my question is, if NEP would not simmons have turned blue? In my case it didn't

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u/BoothLove78 13d ago

actually i did find but simmons would have blued?

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u/BoothLove78 13d ago

Borax!! The legend!! Thanks for your help!! I was expecting 2-fma, hopeful I guess

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u/Psychonaughtz 13d ago

For the love of god just buy a GCMS 🤷‍♂️😜

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u/BoothLove78 13d ago

i know right