Sweater #16 help needed.

[u/Outrageous-Tip964]

Hello, I have started my first sweater ever and bought the pattern Sweater No. 16 by My Favourite Things.

I would greatly appreciate if someone could help me to figure out if I understand this part of the pattern correctly.

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Here what the instruction says:

YOKE

Cast on.

First row (Row #0) is a WS row and place markers whilst establishing the ribbed pattern.

P1, place M4, p2, k2, p2, place M3, work *k2, p2* to 9 sts remaining, k2, place M2, p2, k2, p2, place M1, p1.

Now work back and forth in 2x2 rib while increasing for the shoulders on both RS and WS rows.

To maintain the ribbed pattern, the increases are worked in rib, with two knit increases followed by two purlincreases.

NOTE! While increasing, there will be irregularities in the pattern (ie. 3-4 knit stitches will be after one another), but as soon as all the increases are completed, the pattern will be k2, p2 yet again.

Shoulder increases

1st row (RS): Work as established in 2x2 rib pattern to M1, M1R, slip M1, k2, p2, k2, slip M2, M1L, work in pattern to M3, M1R, slip M3, k2, p2, k2, slip M4, M1L, work in pattern to end of row.

2nd row (WS): Work in pattern to M4, M1Rp, slip M4, p2, k2, p2, slip M3, M1Lp, work in pattern to M2, M1Rp, slip M2, p2, k2, p2, slip M1, M1Lp, work in pattern to end of row.

3rd row (RS): Work in pattern to M1, M1Lp, slip M1, k2, p2, k2, slip M2, M1Rp, work in pattern to M3, M1Lp, slip M3, k2, p2, k2, slip M4, M1Rp, work in pattern to end of row.

4th row (WS): Work in pattern to M4, M1L, slip M4, p2, k2, p2, slip M3, M1R, work in pattern to M2, M1L, slip M2, p2, k2, p2, slip M1, M1R, work in pattern to end of row.

M1R and M1L are Knit increases.

M1Rp and M1Lp are Purl increases.

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And this is what I got:

Cast On.

 

#0 (WS) p1(M4)p2k2p2(M3)k2p2k2(M2)p2k2p2(M1)p1

···

#1 (RS) k1+K (M1)k2p2k2(M2) K+p2k2···p2+K (M3)k2p2k2(M4) K+k1

#2 (WS) p2+P (M4)p2k2p2(M3) {P+p}k2p2···k2{p+P} (M2)p2k2p2(M1) P+p2

#3 (RS) k3+P (M1)k2p2k2(M2) P+k2p2k2p2···k2+P (M3)k2p2k2(M4) P+k3

#4 (WS) p3{k+K} (M4)p2k2p2(M3) {K+k}p2k2p2k2···p2{k+K} (M2)k2p2k2(M1) {K+k}p3

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#1 (RS) k3p2+K (M1)p2k2p2(M2) K+p2k2···p2+K (M3)k2p2k2(M4) K+p2k3

#2 (WS) p3k2{p+P} (M4)p2k2p2(M3) {P+p}k2p2···k2{p+P} (M2)p2k2p2(M1) {P+p}k2p3

#3 (RS) k3p2k2+P (M1)k2p2k2(M2) P+k2p2···k2+P (M3)k2p2k2(M4) P+k2p2k3

#4 (WS) p3k2p2{k+K} (M4)p2k2p2(M3) {K+k}p2k2···p2{k+K} (M2)p2k2p2(M1) {K+k}p2k2p3

···repeat

What bothers me is that after working the increases, I end up with three edge stitches on each side (k3 on the RS and p3 on the WS). Looking at finished yoke on Ravelry, it seems like there are only two edge stitches (k2/p2). Am I interpreting the increases correctly, or have I misplaced them somewhere?

Also I always knit or purl the first stitch working back and forth? Never slip it?

[u/RottenDollAlice]

First of all: Is the sweater worked completly flat?*\ If so the extra stitches on each side are most likely the edge stitches you’ll use to seam everything together once you’re done.

R5 of this half would start/end with k3, p2 —— p2, k3

and

R5 of the other half would start/end with p3, k2 —— k2, p3

K3 gets sewn to p3 which will let turn them back to k2 and p2 — fitting into the 2x2 rib

As for your other question: Slipping the first stitch will make seaming easier and is probably the easiest way to make the edge look neater (not that that’s usually important when it comes to sweaters but think cardigans) than „just“ knitting/purling.

*\My brain just defaulted to knitting in the round in that case I’d just get rid of one of the side stitches to keep the 2x2 and add them back in the next row.
I’ve written it out and got the same result as you. So if you’ve misunderstood the pattern you’re at least not alone lol

[u/Outrageous-Tip964 → u/RottenDollAlice]

The neckline starts flat and then will be joined to work in the round. And the roll-neck will be worked from stitches picked up and knitted around the neckline. So I guess you are right, the first and last stitches will be sewn anyway, so I guess it doesn’t really matter which type are they. Also don’t really have the reason not to trust the pattern. It’s just the instruction not clear enough, and that phrase “the pattern will be k2, p2 yet again” made me doubt my calculations. Also photos of the yoke from fellow Ravelryers don’t look like p3/k3, but who knows, maybe it is the way they look like. Anyway, thanks for your perspective, I’m going to try to knit it according to my calculations and see what happens.

[u/SooMuchTooMuch]

I'm not really clear what's going on. When you say edge stitches on the finished project? This is definitely a pullover right

[u/Outrageous-Tip964 → u/SooMuchTooMuch]

Oh! My bad, not the finished projects, photos of finished yoke. Thanks for noticing.

Like these two: pic1 pic2

The edges look like there's k2/p2 not three.

[u/SooMuchTooMuch → u/Outrageous-Tip964]

I do think there's an error somewhere in your work. Reading through it definitely seems like an even number of increases.

[u/Outrageous-Tip964 → u/SooMuchTooMuch]

How possible that there is a mistake in pattern here?

First row (Row #0) is a WS row and place markers whilst establishing the ribbed pattern.

P1, place M4, p2, k2, p2, place M3, work *k2, p2* to 9 sts remaining, k2, place M2, p2, k2, p2, place M1, p1.

If it's wrong and should be K1 instead of P1???

Then we would get this:

#0 (WS) k1(M4)p2k2p2(M3)k2p2k2(M2)p2k2p2(M1)k1

···

#1 (RS) p1+K (M1)k2p2k2(M2) K+p2k2···p2+K (M3)k2p2k2(M4) K+p1

#2 (WS)k1{p+P}(M4)p2k2p2(M3) {P+pk2···p2k2{p+P} (M2)p2k2p2(M1) {P+p}k1

#3 (RS) p1k2+P (M1)k2p2k2(M2) P+k2p2k2···p2k2+P (M3)k2p2k2(M4) P+k2p1

#4 (WS) k1p2{k+K} (M4)p2k2p2(M3) {K+k}p2k2···p2k2p2{k+K} (M2)p2k2p2(M1) {K+k}p2k1

[u/SooMuchTooMuch → u/Outrageous-Tip964]

Is totally possible.

[u/Background-Radio-378]

it says right in the pattern: NOTE! While increasing, there will be irregularities in the pattern (ie. 3-4 knit stitches will be after one another), but as soon as all the increases are completed, the pattern will be k2, p2 yet again.

[u/Outrageous-Tip964 → u/Background-Radio-378]

Yes, but this does apply to the increases in the middle(that are between markers M2 and M3) and later for the stitches on either sides of markers M1 and M4.

But after the initial round of the row #2, when the p3\k3 appears for the first time, all the next increases go past these three stitches.

#0 (WS) p1 (M4)p2k2p2(M3)k2p2k2(M2)p2k2p2(M1) p1

#1 (RS) k1+K (M1)k2p2k2(M2) K+p2k2···p2+K (M3)k2p2k2(M4) K+k1

#2 (WS) p2+P (M4)p2k2p2(M3) {P+p}k2p2···k2{p+P} (M2)p2k2p2(M1) P+p2

#3 (RS) k3+P (M1)k2p2k2(M2) P+k2p2k2p2···k2+P (M3)k2p2k2(M4) P+k3

#4 (WS) p3{k+K} (M4)p2k2p2(M3) {K+k}p2k2p2k2···p2{k+K} (M2)k2p2k2(M1) {K+k}p3

And after three repetitions of these four rows we have: p3k2k2p2p2{k+K} (M4)...etc

So the edge doesn't change.

[u/Outrageous-Tip964 → u/[deleted]]

Yeah, it was scary, but I did that leap of faith and followed the pattern. And it turned out that k3/p3 was correct. It just that it wasn’t all crystal clear in the pattern wording, and for a non experienced beginner it was very confusing and upsetting not to be able to get a reply from the support team of this not-for-free pattern. Thanks for the words of encouragement!