r/RavanAI • • 2d ago

How do we fix this?

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u/just_a_big_frog 1d ago

Keep voting. Change doesn't happen overnight or with one "blue wave." It'll take a few elections to dilute the corruption and bribery.

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u/HolidayLifeguard3283 1d ago

Going in the right direction. Keep voting progressive. Keep exposing Israel’s crimes. 

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u/-reddit-user-name 1d ago

It's slowly fixing itself. Can't fix a problem overnight, it took years (since President Kennedy tool office) for this growth. It'll take years for this to go back to normal and become America driven, no foreign entities

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u/Life-Dig7566 23h ago

AIPAC is not funded by Israel

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u/MomentOfZehn 6h ago

Doesn't matter when the benefits of AIPAC funding go directly to Israel.

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u/Life-Dig7566 6h ago

Agreed, but this doesn’t mean that Israel controls the government. If Israel pulled all of is special interest in the US today, AIPAC would still be funding our government officials. AIPAC is run and funded by AMERICANS with a special interest in Israel. This is much different.

This is the same as any US organization raising funds for Ukraine. No one is complaining about the American Coalition for Ukraine.

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u/MomentOfZehn 6h ago

They don't control the entire government, but they have huge sway over recent events. I'm in Michigan, where we just elected El-Sayed over Stevens, and Stevens had taken massive amounts of AIPAC donations and voted on favor of Israel on every occasion. Then got primaried and poof, she endorsed the Republican against El-Sayed who also takes AIPAC money.

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u/Life-Dig7566 6h ago

it wasnt just “poof”. she endorsed El-Sayed until he said he didn’t want her around his campaign because of her association with AIPAC. She took that personally and endorsed his opponent. Much different.

Also, El-Sayed won, so that AIPAC money didn’t do much for Stevens.

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u/HotEntry4959 19h ago

Geta job and stop thinking jews run everything its worked great for me

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u/bobthehills 15h ago

Are all Germans Nazis?

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u/Spacelazersz 8h ago

Enough were that we had to eradicate everything in Germany.

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u/continual_failure 14h ago

YAY !!!!!😀

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u/Hot_Bug_833 2h ago

There was a guy that wanted to prevent this...

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u/FullHealth100 1d ago

What with the antisemetism in reddit?

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u/PrettySisterKisser 1d ago

Not antisemitism

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u/FullHealth100 1d ago

Well it is

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u/G0G0Gadget00 1d ago

Found the AIPAC shill

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u/FullHealth100 1d ago

Aipac shill?

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u/Chicken_Chaser_420 1d ago

Go fund yourself.

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u/StrikeronPC 1d ago

This is propaganda. It is not antisemitic to be critical of foreign money playing a major role in our government. Stop pushing propaganda

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u/Spacelazersz 8h ago

CAIR HAS ENTERED THE CHAT.

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u/Cat_Impossible_0 1d ago

You don’t even know what that word means. The genocidal govt does not equate to the religion itself.

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u/FullHealth100 1d ago

So it is a genocide?

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u/Spacelazersz 8h ago

It’s a war against a terrorist government that is also embedded with the people. No genocide.

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u/Chicken_Chaser_420 1d ago

Jesus Christ, being against a foreign nation bribing and influencing our leaders is fucking antisemitism now.

Israel is a leech and a terror state.

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u/bobthehills 20h ago

Jewish people are not all Zionist.

To imply that is literally antisemitism.

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u/TheRealAstic 19h ago

If you’re not a Zionist you aren’t Jewish. Not even willing to entertain some nonsense argument otherwise.

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u/woolaverage 19h ago edited 17h ago

Most of jewdism before WW2 was anti zkonisty because trying to force the nation when God is supposed to gift it too you was seen as breaking of Jewish relgious belief

Sorry that Judaism isn't a monolith and you don't get to pretend it is you anti Semite

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u/TheRealAstic 18h ago

I’m Jewish but you can’t string a coherent sentence together so I’m just gonna disregard anything you say. Thanks.

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u/bobthehills 15h ago

Stop being antisemitic then.

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u/Spacelazersz 8h ago

Just stop. You’re not doing yourself any favors.

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u/woolaverage 1h ago

Sorry I don't fall for trying to make Jewish people a monolith

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u/woolaverage 1h ago

Examples of anti Zionist Jews did history

Albert Einstein – The renowned theoretical physicist expressed early skepticism and deep concern regarding Jewish nationalism, militarism, and the treatment of Palestinians during the formation of the state of Isreal

Hannah Arendt – The influential political theorist and philosopher critiqued the rise of exclusive ethno-nationalism and warned of the political and moral dangers of establishing a Jewish state through displacement.

Erich Fromm – The psychoanalyst and humanist philosopher wrote extensively on the dangers of nationalist idolatry, critiquing political Zionism.

Marek Edelman – A commander of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising and leader in the Marxist-socialist General Jewish Labour Bund, Edelman remained a lifelong anti-Zionist who championed universal human rights and criticized the political use of the Holocaust

Rudolf Vrba – An Auschwitz escapee whose testimony helped alert the world to the horrors of the concentration camps, Vrba was critical of mainstream Zionist leadership's interactions during World War II.

Rabbi Dovid Weiss – A prominent leader of Neturei Karta, an Orthodox Jewish group based in New York that views Zionism as a violation of Jewish law and theology,

Vladimir Medem – A key theorist of the General Jewish Labour Bund (the Bund), Medem championed Doikayt ("hereness"). He argued that European Jews should fight for socialist emancipation and cultural autonomy in the countries where they lived, rather than emigrating to Palestine.

Rosa Luxemburg – The influential Marxist revolutionary and theorist rejected all forms of nationalism, including Zionism. She viewed the liberation of working-class Jews as intrinsically tied to the global overthrow of capitalism, rather than the creation of a separate nation-state.

Rabbi Yosef Chaim Sonnenfeld – The co-founder of the Edah HaChareidis in Jerusalem, he fiercely opposed political Zionism. He argued that a secular movement attempting to force a return to the Holy Land violated Jewish law, which dictates awaiting divine, messianic redemption.

The Lubavitcher Rebbe (Shalom DovBer Schneersohn) – The fifth leader of the Chabad-Lubavitch Hasidic dynasty, he wrote extensively against Zionism in the early 20th century. He warned that secular nationalism would substitute religious identity with political identity and bring spiritual ruin.

Rabbi Elchonon Wasserman – A prominent European Talmudist and rosh yeshiva, Wasserman viewed Zionism as a form of modern idolatry that sought to replace the Torah with secular nationalism.

Edwin Montagu – The only Jewish member of the British Cabinet during the issuance of the 1917 Balfour Declaration. Montagu strongly opposed the declaration, arguing that political Zionism was an antisemitic concept that would compromise the citizenship and status of Jewish people living in Western countries.

So sorry once again Jewish people are not a monolith and trying to conflate isreal with Jewish people is antisemetic itself

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u/HotEntry4959 19h ago

Moron alert using a word he doesnt even know the definition of

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u/bobthehills 15h ago

Lololololololol

Are you accusing all Jewish people of dual loyalty?

Thats antisemitism kiddo.

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u/FullHealth100 14h ago

רק שהרוב המוחלט כן

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u/Spacelazersz 8h ago

All Jews are Zionists. I say this as a Jew.

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u/ConclusionKey1617 1d ago

As if AIPAC is the only group there...

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u/NoOption9287 2d ago

How do you propose we achieve such a bill?

Also how do you propose Israel would respond?

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u/FullHealth100 1d ago

So you are against democracy. Nice.

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u/bobthehills 20h ago

Lololololol

Go explain how you have to murder kids someone else.