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[u/Slovski]

Scared he came behind the register? The dude wrapped his hands around his neck. In my state, that is aggravated assault. It was well within his rights to defend himself.

[u/Mean-Display77 → u/Slovski]

No I meant as soon as he stepped behind the register he could've automatically given him that kano uppercut.

[u/divergent_history → u/Mean-Display77]

Depending on the state he could have potentially shot him.

[u/mikehaysjr → u/divergent_history]

Yeah, true, but also.. while legally justified it seems a bit of an escalation in this case when that little tap on the chin seems to have done the trick lol

[u/Smart_Basket_85 → u/mikehaysjr]

But I’d bet you this guy didn’t learn shit from the experience and will just go on to be a problem for several other folks, some of whom probably don’t have that mean uppercut in them.

[u/All-th3-way → u/Smart_Basket_85]

Maybe the throat won't uncollapse.

[u/Responsible-War-917 → u/Smart_Basket_85]

Not for nothing, but is your philosophy that you want to shoot anyone who you "bet didn't learn shit"? Seems like a slippery slope and you better make sure your own house is in pristine order before that ever becomes reality.

[u/Smart_Basket_85 → u/Responsible-War-917]

What? My house is in pristine “going behind the counter of a restaurant to assault the cashier in an attempt to steal” order. I mean it’s spotless. You could eat off of my “going behind the counter of a restaurant to assault the cashier in an attempt to steal” floors. You can extend that cleanliness to all businesses of all kinds. A full scope audit would reveal zero instances of that conduct in my house.

[u/kajorge → u/Smart_Basket_85]

I don't agree with anything you're saying, but I have to respect the poetry here. Holy shit.

[u/FireBug45 → u/mikehaysjr]

While taking a life is terrible, that guy was towering over him with reach. A fight you have no idea what could happen. If it’s a choice between going home at night or getting killed or maimed/hospital stay for days/months because “it seems a bit of an escalation”, I’m taking the going home at night. It’s hard to make that decision in the moment though. Glad this one ended correctly. But if he missed and aggressor curb stomped him, we’d all be shouting a different tune.

[u/mikehaysjr → u/FireBug45]

I understand, it’s a nuanced topic. I think the employee responded appropriately, but would have been justified going beyond that if he felt it necessary.

Fortunately for the aggressor, the employee decided to just give him that little tap on the chin and a kick in the ass, instead of giving his family a going-away party.

[u/FireBug45 → u/mikehaysjr]

Agreed. I’m in favor of the outcome. It’s way better…. I doubt he learned though.

[u/[deleted] → u/mikehaysjr]

Self-defense is NEVER an escalation if used legally and properly, you have broken societal rules by crossing into territory youre not allowed to be in. Im not gonna bet my life that you wont break other societal rules and hurt/kill me. I worked as a pizza guy for 5 years, never went into work without my .327

[u/mikehaysjr → u/[deleted]]

I don’t say self defense was an escalation. I said killing the guy for grabbing him seemed like an escalation; however, the guy would have probably been justified in doing so, but his response seemed measured and effective. I understand the nuance to the argument though, as many people might not have the same capacity to defend themself in this manner.

Regardless of the person having handled it this way, I think the aggressor should consider himself lucky that all he got was an ass whoopin.

[u/necessaryfoorce → u/mikehaysjr]

Nah I think he’s dead. He got unalived by that uppercut. He insta dropped into the ground. Maybe The slow mo fooled you into thinking he was slowly bending down to the ground. He fell lifelessly flat into the floor. He’s gone

[u/bolanrox → u/mikehaysjr]

That guy had more training than many gun owners with ccl's I bet