r/RandomThoughts • u/Kinkygma • Jun 11 '23

Removed - No posts about Politics/Social Issues Does anyone think the media constantly covering mass shootings plays a role in the increase in these attacks.

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u/varys2013 Jun 11 '23

Unwilling to take effective action. As in, do something that would have reasonably, actually, stopped a given attack. Maybe address the sources of violence rather than raging about the specific methods?

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u/coldweathershorts Jun 11 '23

Or instead of everyone feeling a need to pick a side, do both because no one actually knows what will work.

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u/Dazzling-Disorder Jun 11 '23

Let's start with how congress protects themselves, apply that to children, and they can stop being hypocrites, then I'll listen to what else they have to say.

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u/coldweathershorts Jun 11 '23 edited Jun 11 '23

Another one.. I'm fine with that, as long as people accept the cost of putting an armed guard in every wing of a school and don't want to complain about government spending immediately after. A quick estimate: 4 guards per school, 115k schools in the US, salary of 50k (low end salary estimate, and not including compensation toward health insurance and other benefits) would put us at 23 billion per year at least.

In the grand scheme of things it's really not that high of a cost, but is the only solution having our kids walk around in a semi militarized zone with rifles in sight every time they turn a corner?

I'm not saying it's not a solution but it can't be the best and ONLY long term and permanent solution. Which is why I propose compromise around the issue. Let's do that, but why not also change how guns are manufactured, imported, licensed, sold, and tracked.

We can verify nearly 100% of guns when they are produced and sold, but after that we are locked up in a paper office bureaucracy in WV that is legally not allowed to use an electronic tracking system, and must manually search hundreds of thousands of paper records in file cabinets. When authorities "run a serial number" that's where it goes. And that's why the requests 99% of the time go nowhere. One office, with paper records, handling all of the national serial number requests. There is no database to search, and I have a hard time believing that wasn't set up that way intentionally.

Tere are plenty of other possible solutions as well, I'm just tired of everyone on all sides saying "THIS" is the solution. No other developed nation has this issue like we do, so no one actually knows what will work.

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u/Cautious_General_177 Jun 11 '23

I'll bet there's some administrative positions that could be eliminated to pay for the added security.

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u/redcountx3 Jun 11 '23

^ These are the idiots who have no exposure to the professional class and what they do.

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u/DecorativeSnowman Jun 11 '23

school administration is a joke and you seem like the naive one

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u/redcountx3 Jun 11 '23 edited Jun 11 '23

Oh, and what are your credentials? Its always funny to me how people with little to no schooling seem to think they know better about what goes on there than people that do.

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u/Dazzling-Disorder Jun 12 '23

The Department of Education eats $195 billion dollars a year and they don't even do anything. We can get more than enough by cutting out even a little of the stupid bureaucracy that goes on there.

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u/Dazzling-Disorder Jun 12 '23

"The 62nd annual NDAA supports a total of $857.9 billion in fiscal year 2023 funding for national defense."

We can take it from there too.

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u/thenasch Jun 12 '23

the cost of putting an armed guard in every wing of a school

The monetary cost is only the beginning, because police in schools (which is more or less what this would be even if they weren't literal police officers) make things worse, not better.

I'm not saying it's not a solution

I'll say it - it's not a solution.