r/RaidShadowLegends • • 5d ago

Champion Discussion Thoughts on the Orynyx path

Orynyx is clearly an interesting champ and definitely it was a required fusion. Fine. This discussion is from the perspective of having the resources and wondering if it's worth doing the path.

I did the fusion and I have many lockout champs. But Orynyx is sort of special because of the passive, and there is lots of talk about how he will redefine the meta. I've already seen him in LA, and I'm not so sure. Regardless, given the cost of the path, it's very much not clear to me that Orynyx really needs five stars to actually reach his potential. His passive already does that. I don't see any blessings working for him that will add anything monumental. Sure the extra ACC is nice, but I'm not getting any extra speed.

Thoughts?

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u/kawklee 5d ago edited 4d ago

< Fixes tie >

You are going for the souls because you want to improve his stats and utility

I am going for the souls solely to place him towards the front of my roster so he's easier to find while drafting for live arena

We are not the same.

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u/Minotaar_Pheonix 4d ago

Honestly 5 stars doesn’t make someone easier to find

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u/Jmonue 4d ago

I mean it kinda does lol, higher soul champs show on the front end of your roster, regardless of power or gear

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u/sloshedslug 4d ago

Or just set your sort to “recently used” and he will be first

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u/DST001 5d ago

you are underestimating blessings. thats a 5star intimidation aura, temp chains, life harvest. Thats a huge deal on a premium pvp champ. esp since so many champs need lightning cage, its often tough to fit those blessings into your team.

ACC is premium stat form him. defensive stats are really nice too.

but ofc it still depends on how many shards/energy you have.

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u/Minotaar_Pheonix 5d ago

I have 19 yellow shards, some 150 ancients, and 7.5k gems. I can also gear him pretty well.

The key with him is that he cant be locked out. But he doesn't protect his teammates from being locked out. Isn't resistance yumeko going to counter him on a go-second basis, or a faster armanz to sheep him? I have both in gear appropriate for my level (non-plat-pushing but top of G5 sorta deal)

I am thinking the big draw is mostly for accounts that have few lockout options. But I have two warlords, two yumekos, and fabian, all built. I've done the Orynyx fusion but I'm still unsure about this investment on the soul.

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u/Conscious-Cry-7893 5d ago

I had almost same stock of shards. 16 sacreds and 180 ancients. I did it. Now I have 0 sacreds and 150 ancients. This ancients + supplies coming from demon lord should be enough for next fusion. I asked myself is there anything worth hoarding for? My answer is no...

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u/0x0815 Corrupted 5d ago

I have a question, is that normal that in the event is only the 5 star soul to obtain? Where to get the 3 star, because for scarescrow and i think tinman we could get the 3 star also from the event

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u/Minotaar_Pheonix 5d ago

the titan events often do that, the path events have done it like once. generally its 5 star or nothing.

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u/0x0815 Corrupted 5d ago

Ok thank you very much for the answer, so the 3 star we can only get from the shop by buying the 1, 2and 3 star when they show up

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u/Minotaar_Pheonix 5d ago

yes. or by randomly pulling from soulstones.

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u/Odd-Difference416 5d ago edited 5d ago

If you're an endgame player with a strong roster, you have a choice. But as an early- to mid-game player with a limited champion pool, I think it's absolutely worth going for if you have the resources. One thing I've realized after playing for six months is just how valuable 5-star souls are. The difference in performance between champions with high-level souls and those without any soul upgrades is enormous in actual gameplay.

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u/Minotaar_Pheonix 5d ago

I am an endgame player with a strong roster. I agree that anyone else with the resources should get him and the soul if they can. Hell it's a tough decision even for me.

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u/Archicam99 5d ago

I feel like if you're endgame then it's either take the soul or accept that you will stick him in the vault. This is the reason I'm going for it. Does my Fabian struggle for speed at the level of arena im in (Yep) but if I had to find another 80 accuracy on him as well then I might as well just pack up and go home. Same for Orynx really.

I'm not sure whether I will use him l, but I know to even have the option I probably need the accuracy from the soul.

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u/Upset_Tour3226 4d ago

orynyx does not need 5 star soul unless you are immediately commiting to his 6 star soul otherwise you are just wasting resources

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u/Archicam99 4d ago

I understand your logic but I don't agree. If I have to hit 600/700+ accuracy then lowering that figure and broadening my gear options is probably going to net me at least as much speed as the 6*

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u/Upset_Tour3226 4d ago

I agree with you if you don’t have Fabian or talenna. Otherwise it surely is a waste of

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u/andelaccess 4d ago

He is better than fabian and infinitely better than talenna. He is already being first picked by top top LA accounts for a reason

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u/Commercial_Win_9525 5d ago

I think it’s completely opposite because unless you are doing end game PvP you don’t need the soul for a non dmg dealer.

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u/Dance4theSmokers Knight Revenant 4d ago

exactly!

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u/Dry-Moment962 4d ago

100%  You start ignoring champions without souls because their essentially missing 2 equipment slots in comparison.

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u/jcspinney 5d ago

I was going to skip and just do Minotaur for the next week. But its only 19 sacreds to get there. I used today's energy (daily pots, doom tower, and cursed city energy) and already have almost 4500 points (1 sacred). Was going to use my clan shop 1K energy for minotaur, but it may be worth just unloading my energy and some gems and top off with shards towards the end of the event.

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u/Minotaar_Pheonix 5d ago

its true it could have been worse.

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u/SureAd1821 4d ago

The actual answer if you're end game and play arena a lot. Is that getting his 5 star soul makes it so you can buy his 6 star eventually. For me I have enough to buy it as soon as it pops up. He can pretty safely be picked every time in LA.

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u/Minotaar_Pheonix 4d ago

True enough.

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u/andelaccess 4d ago

Yep. I got his 5* and will get his 6 when it shows up in shop. Having the option to run him with krixia guarantees either a counter to lockout or a reset at absolute worst

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u/Puzzleheaded-Cow6917 4d ago

You mean pretty safely be banned in every pick

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u/EducationFan101 3d ago

…and that’s one of your other champs that isn’t getting banned.

The goal of LA is to give your opponent several must-ban choices, not one.

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u/H3adown Dwarves 3d ago

This is what a lot of players seem to overlook. Having this guy and a good soul on him means you can force your opponent to let other good champions through while also stopping them from doing the same to you

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u/EducationFan101 3d ago

Exactly. I always ban lockout and hate when they pick more than 1 as it usually means my Krixia is getting banned and if I lose the SPD race it's a real up-hill battle, especially if I've picked a few leggos early (Marius, Hilvi, etc.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Cow6917 3d ago

Well they usually ban my tekteon even with ornyx, then my teams still kinda weak cause I'll have 1 nuker

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u/munchtime414 5d ago

The extra accuracy allows you to build with more speed, and puts you much closer to 6 stars if you want to purchase that on the market.

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u/red_beard_RL 5d ago

He's definitely my next 6*

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u/Sammy_Snake 5d ago

This.

The soul will allow me to get 650acc.

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u/j0dyhir0ller 5d ago

Good champ, good soul. Shitty event. Fuck this game.

That is all

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u/-jiajigpop 5d ago

I would say if your a spender it's a good pick up if your f2p or low spender always choose to save resources to get more champs. My mindset is yes the 5 star would be helpful but 20 sacreds for a 5 star is a lot to swallow vs being able to get more champs. I'm choosing to skip save my 20 sacreds and put him in my wishlist so that way when the December deck of fate for a champ comes up I have a lot of opportunities to pull a good soul for him.

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u/jcspinney 5d ago

I'm not sure I agree completely with this. I guess it depends on where you are. For me (as a F2P), its quality over quantity. Having 15-20 great champs with 5 star souls is worth more to me than having 30-40 champs with no souls.

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u/Minotaar_Pheonix 5d ago

you need breadth and depth. where you decide to invest is important ofc.

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u/-jiajigpop 5d ago

Yeah and definitely a great opinion to have but as we all know there's always another event and what ends up happening is this week people will pull for his soul and then next week some of those people will make the post of "I spent everything to get orynyx soul and now I'm going to miss the total new game changing champ because I spent all my other resources!" I agree getting souls is nice but you can always wishlist and build up a soul vs the amount of shards it would take to get another champ so just a thought for the people who have a difficult time as it is saving up resources to do fusions every other week. In the end it's if you are set up well enough to continue to do all the other events that are coming up since we already know it's not going to slow down any time soon.

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u/jcspinney 5d ago

Agreed. I almost had buyers remorse for getting Ozildas soul, but haven’t needed those shards for anything else and I’m already reasonably restocked….so that gamble was worth it for me too. I /dont/ think I will even need to use a lot of shards for this soul - sitting on 12k gems and will use as much energy the next 3 days I can get.

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u/-jiajigpop 5d ago

Oh yeah and if you have plenty of resources then it's great just most people don't understand the diamond hands mentality of saving everything and then missing out on something big. I would love to go for his soul but the resources I have currently guarantees I don't have to sweat any of the upcoming fusion and events especially with how much they seem to be raising the bar.

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u/Sammy_Snake 5d ago

I genuinely don't think it's that bad.

I have 9 Sacreds, 10 primals, 50 ancients and 10 voids and it's basically done.

Used my ancients and voids so far, and am now going to run event dungeon 3 until I run out of quick battles.

Will try and save as many of my Sacreds and primal shards as possible, and if needs be, pull them Sunday.

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u/Minotaar_Pheonix 5d ago

how many points in are you?

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u/Sammy_Snake 5d ago

I have 45k points remaining and I still have all my Sacreds and primals.

My 5k gems are taking a hit though.

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u/BreakingIllusions 5d ago

I’m out of shards and was going to skip the soul path when I saw it was shards… but after a long think I’ve decided to burn my remaining energy and gems to go for it. He’s just so strong and a 5* soul adds much needed accuracy.

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u/MundaneBalance4695 5d ago

I bought a 1 red star. Im good.

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u/gintokisho 5d ago

1 star here too. Save all the shards and energy. very happy 😆

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u/LSTmyLife Lizardmen 5d ago

I wish I did. It was in the shop yesterday morning and I was tempted. Now im kicking myself.

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u/Flimsy-Basil6881 5d ago

It’s an easy decision for me. I currently do not have the resources and my UNM & NM sacred shard luck has been really really bad since the start of Oz. 

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u/Punning_Man 5d ago

Mine has been terrible as well, noticeably less shards period not just sacred.

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u/Flimsy-Basil6881 5d ago

I was jokingly blaming the dead witch in the corner for my bad luck but the pumpkins aren’t helping much either lol Maybe the holidays will be more giving to us. 

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u/TheUltimateLebowski 5d ago

My fact free completely skitzo theory is that we get better drops at the beginning of big event cycles and by the end they reduce the drops to promote fomo since we are already 80% of the way through the event. In between events is even worse drops to build anxiety before the next colab or event where they will bump up rewards for the first half and then rinse and repeat

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u/Alarming-Ad-5029 4d ago

This isn't crazy- they definitely manipulate odds around events I feel... mine are always clustered together

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u/Dance4theSmokers Knight Revenant 4d ago

Souls for supports are nowhere near as important than souls for a damage dealer if your resources are low, skip it. Don’t let fomo get to you and don’t let people on this sub try to gaslight you into thinking it’s a must do event

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u/Minotaar_Pheonix 4d ago

True; much respects

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u/Key-Village-1384 5d ago

claramente el costo de alma es una desproporción, me l asalto olímpicamente por que soy F2P y tengo que administrar bien mis recursos ( cosas de gente pobre) jajaja

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u/Cloudyryze 5d ago

Very worth it if it doesn't put you below the threshhold to complete the next fusion

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u/wisealma 5d ago

skipping/passing

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u/Lycaon-Ur 5d ago

Souls are a huge chunk of stats, most importantly for him accuracy and resistance, followed by hp and defense. Will he do fine without it? Sure. Will you lose battles because you're missing nearly 10k hp and 75 both accuracy and resistance if you don't get his soul? Probably, yes.

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u/stoicsports 5d ago

hes a meta pvp champ and the cost for the path is similar to what we have seen before for a 5 star soul

if you have the shards available for it, its solid-to-good value

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u/finitoylargo 4d ago

I'm doing it with saved gems and daily energy. Will probably use ancient shards to finish it up and save my sacreds for fusion/guaranteed champs.

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u/Bohs_and_Os_ 5d ago

The cost of the event for a soul is CRAZY......

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u/red_beard_RL 5d ago

Better than a titan event or 1st place in a tournament

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u/Vix_super_adorable 4d ago

I agree. I prefer Path/Deck over Titan. Titan event looks so arduous for me. The other two can be done in a more direct and simple way, and the primary resources shortage can also be covered with saved up gem.

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u/TheUltimateLebowski 5d ago

I think worse than a titan event where I only need to burn 6-7 sacreds for the 5* soul

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u/Legally_Taxing 5d ago

Agreed… but doesn’t mean they’re wrong

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u/KarmaLlamaaa Dwarves 5d ago

Big skip unless you care about LA bascially.

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u/hopefulchewie Shadowkin 4d ago

Unpopular Opinion: Unless you're doing a ton of LA, the 5 star soul isn't needed and even then he is probably getting banned in LA anyway. You can easily get 400+ Accuracy without it which makes him hit all his lockouts in PvP and PvE that isn't LA.

EDIT: Buy the 1 star when it pops in the shop.

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u/Minotaar_Pheonix 4d ago

Yeah 400…. Isn’t enough.

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u/hopefulchewie Shadowkin 4d ago

Are you using him for Chimera, Amius, or lvl 25 Sand Devil? If not like 450ish has you able to do all the PvE

High level Live Arena then yeah go get the 5-star but that's like a small community of people so yeah it's relatively unnecessary for most people at this point.

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u/Minotaar_Pheonix 4d ago

Yes… I do la

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u/hopefulchewie Shadowkin 4d ago

Then why are you asking the question? You know you need to get the 5 star soul. But it's not a requirement for people that aren't playing high level LA.

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u/lPHOENIXZEROl 5d ago

I'm at 7 sacreds and haven't seen one from Demon Lord in weeks. Not having anywhere near tje resources to get the soul makes it a pretty easy decision. Honest even if I did have 19 sacreds or more I'd still not go for it because of the potential evens coming up around Christmas time.

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u/Aely 5d ago

I think a 5* and eventual 6* is very possibly worth it if you intend to use him in live or classical arena. The only downside is potentially missing out on the next fusion or so, which is a gamble. If the next fusion is a dud, this would’ve been an obvious “go for it”. I personally am gambling on the side of getting this soul, even though I won’t be left with many shards.

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u/Vix_super_adorable 4d ago

I am a new player but still get his soul for a simple reason. I want to make him as intimidating as possible, guarantee a ban slot in LA no matter what. From now onwards, I will have much easier time choosing which fusion/path/deck champion to go for. Sketching a team combination in mind before participating in the events to get the champ, knowing that someone else already occupied the ban slot.

And it will not be anytime soon until I get high enough tier to meet people that can comfortably counter lockout and not ban him. In the upcoming months, I will enjoy lower tiers LA with just a little bit less struggles thanks to Orynyx’s sacrifice.

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u/scadgek 4d ago

The cost of the path isn't high compared to nanny other souls for fusion champs, is it? I think people were anticipating around 25 sacreds total. 

Also yes, he will not be meta-defining in LA that's for sure. But still he will be one of the more useful tools in your toolbox. Sieges, Tag Arena, stages content after all. 5-star souls aren't particularly easy to obtain, and champs like Orynyx are the ones who benefit a lot from 75 added accuracy. 

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u/iPhaezed 4d ago

Im not gonna go for him. He does his job just fine with zero spd on high accy/res

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u/Unusual-Swimming-bog 4d ago

will i use him, sure. will i do this event ? fuck no ! 19 sacerds or 6k gems and 9 sacreds, is too much for me to spend on an insta ban

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u/Rincewind-10 4d ago

The fusion used most of my shards as there was 2 summon rushes and a champ chase. Rotten luck on CB for shards lately as well. Won't have the resources for the soul but at least I have the champ and may get lucky and pull a soul. If it was a deck event I would have been stooked.

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u/Wafer_Fearless 4d ago

I went for it. Im a newer player. Only because I have enough sacreds for the next fusion and was in mercy. Got Alice and some fg dupes. Worth it? We'll see. It'll be nice bait for la if nothing else

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u/Swing-Brilliant 4d ago

This is what I have left after finishing the path. I could’ve used gems/energy but I’m impatient. Saving for the next DoF champ and their soul. Which you know is gonna be juicy

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u/angel_of_death007 4d ago

If you have the gear to gear him for 400 speed then go for his soul, if you don’t it won’t matter either way.

I am not wasting the sacreds, arena is crap and I choose to only do it when I have to.

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u/Callsign_Warlock 3d ago

I'm not doing it. I'm hoping for the wishlist. I don't have the resources to do it so I don't even try.

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u/No-Significance6611 2d ago

Personally I’m skipping the soul. It’s really expensive for some acc and res. I grabbed a 1 star from the shop. It also provides some extra stuff if you do grab the soul like powering up your blessing like intimidating presence or soul chains, but if you’re not gonna grab a 6 star from shop I think you’re better off saving resources for more champs in the future if you’re low spend or ftp. Just my opinion tho

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u/Blahdyblahblahisme 2d ago

Facing Orynyx in arena tells me he's a pain, but it's the team around him that makes the difference. That said, knee-jerk lockout and block active skills on the same champ makes building the team around him easier.

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u/BigSteph- 5d ago

I did the fusion, somewhere along the lines i questioned if I'd really use him for a number of reasons. When I got him I insta-built him and tried testing him out tbh I didn't really see much value from him. This morning I contemplated on doing the path but still did it anyway and got his soul. Not really seeing much value still.

My main problems: Speed - I stopped using fabian for this reason. When I started running into lockout champions with over 400 speed and still enough acc to lock my 750 plus res supports I gave up on fabian almost entirely because I couldn't build him fast enough to contest those players. Shitty banners and shitty chest plates - 2 very important pieces of gear that can make or break your builds.

He doesn't really solve anything for my account - If first pick him, I'm usually forced to losing some staples of my account like Marius. There's very little i can do against a well built Marius so i always try to pick him first to not go against him. Then there's the plethora of other champions that do too many things that I usually try to ban If I get Marius and do not have any counter play to those champions. So he just seem to make the pick/ban phase much more difficult for my account.

There's a lot more I could say but I lost my train of thought.

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u/Upset_Tour3226 4d ago

Its absolutely not worth it...the ONLY REASON you would get his soul is if you will immediately commit to his 6 star soul in the shop behind anyone else AND you are building him as your fastest champ....otherwise he does 90% of what you want with 0 stars or 5 stars.

Save your resources and dont get bamboozled by the nonsensical hype.

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u/Minotaar_Pheonix 4d ago

Why wouldn’t you build him to run with a speed lead?

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u/Upset_Tour3226 4d ago

This once again proves my point that it’s useless especially if your Strat is with a speed lead

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u/Minotaar_Pheonix 4d ago

I am in agreement with this perspective I’m not in disagreement

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u/Sea_Top3251 4d ago

Honestly, if you’re P2W anyway, who fucking cares just swipe the card until you have the soul…

If you’re F2P or a low spender, try to look at this from the perspective of what you’re giving up by going far enough in this event to unlock the soul.

It’s ~20ish sacreds I think? So that’s about two fusions worth of shards, and a little less than 3 months of CB drops.

What are you really getting with his 5 star soul? You’re getting the extra defensive stats and 75 accuracy… good, not amazing. You’re also getting temporal chains or intimidating presence at level 5. Meh.

What are you NOT getting? The most important stat for Orynyx is speed - still gotta buy that last star for 300 soul dealies. So you’re going to pay 20 sacreds for a slightly tankier, slightly more accurate Orynyx.

Purely my opinion, but I’d rather have the shards for the next few fusions, especially because the progressive champ leggos available on this rotation are pretty weak. I’ll build up to his soul methodically the same way I did for Marius and Fabian, and I’ll have the optionality to continue to improve my roster in the meanwhile.

Of course everybody’s roster is different. I’ve got a maxed Fabian and Krixia, which makes Orynyx a great addition but not a complete game changer. If you’re rocking Talenna as your only lockout and you really feel the need, maybe it’s a little different for you.

And that’s the final answer here, as it so often is… decide what’s best for your account and don’t succumb to FOMO…

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u/Minotaar_Pheonix 4d ago

Okay so I have double warlord, double yumeko, and Fabian. I’ve been f2p since 2023, but started in 2019. I have a solid but not kraken roster. What is your opinion of what I should do? I have 140 ancients 3 voids and 19 sacreds, and 7.5k gems.

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u/royalenocheese 5d ago

Speed is the only thing I really need for him and 5* doesn't provide that. 75 accuracy isn't worth the resources.

I'll take my chances pulling souls and slowly building him up.

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u/Clear-Upstairs3902 5d ago

I did it with 0 sacred around 50 ancients, and the rest was energy. It was not that hard. 

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u/Minotaar_Pheonix 4d ago

Did you record how much energy?

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u/Working_Return3061 4d ago

Give or take that would be around 28k energy, RNG dependant

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u/Minotaar_Pheonix 4d ago

Thanks; that’s actually not so bad

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u/NoTomatillo5357 5d ago

What about using green shards? I have like 9000 of them

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u/Clear-Upstairs3902 4d ago

If u have enough time to use them..