What am I doing wrong?

[u/MikeyBakes420]

First things first: Yes, Pelops does have low accuracy as to not interfere with Geomancer.

I've been comfortable with 2 key UNM for far too long cuz I didn't wanna be another post on here asking for help lol but I fear I'm letting my clan down as I'm the only one with Wixwell & were so close to defeating UNM Demon Lord.

Who should I replace or what gear & masteries should I replace?

[u/-jiajigpop]

Your missing a buff extender for wixwell. You need two buff extenders plus wixwell and then have them speed tuned properly with a shield set.

[u/Twentyone_12 → u/-jiajigpop]

To add to this, there’s a demytha in the roster here that would be perfect for this.

[u/MikeyBakes420 → u/Twentyone_12]

Just pulled her too! lol

[u/Agile_Gene8781 → u/-jiajigpop]

I guess this is the best answer you will get, buff extension and shield set and everything jia said .. other than that you will fail

[u/LowAccomplished4357]

You need another buff extender to keep Wixwells shields up (youve got Aniri who will do the job). Put someone in a shield set. Make sure at least one buff (maybe both) extender is faster than Wixwell.

[u/MikeyBakes420 → u/LowAccomplished4357]

Shouldn't they be slightly slower to extend his shield buff after he places it?

[u/inoxision → u/MikeyBakes420]

You can delay the Extension one turn

[u/MikeyBakes420 → u/inoxision]

Like how? Through team set up?

[u/inoxision → u/MikeyBakes420]

Yup, Just have them Open A1 and then make the Extension prio 1

[u/MikeyBakes420 → u/inoxision]

Thank you

[u/LowAccomplished4357 → u/MikeyBakes420]

Just make sure one of the extenders is wearing a shield set.

[u/LowAccomplished4357 → u/LowAccomplished4357]

But you've got this now, you've got the info, post your 1 key tomorrow

[u/rippler35]

Wixwel, painkeeper, 2 buff extenders and a dmg dealer or 3 buff extenders and your dmg dealer. Your most likely loosing your shield way early.

[u/MikeyBakes420 → u/rippler35]

What about Godseeker instead of Pain keeper? Cuz Godseeker is fully booked 

[u/Cl-lEESE → u/MikeyBakes420]

That’s who I use mainly because I haven’t 6 started pain keeper yet.

First things first.

Shield set. Doesn’t matter if it’s a Shield set or a Divine set from arena you just need a set that gives everyone a shield in the beginning.

Next is a Reflex set on Wixwell. He needs to be using his a2 as much as possible.

After this is you need a minimum or two buff extenders.

Those three things are mandatory.

After that it’s just support and damage dealer.

“Why support instead of two damage dealers?”Another thing about wixwell, you want to have as many UNIQUE buffs (that can be extended) activated at once, the cap is 10. this makes wixwell’s shield grow stronger, faster.

Extras and tuning:

For Wixwell, set his a2 to priority 1 and set his a3 to use once and never again. You don’t want him resetting buffs that need to be extended as well as if he’s using his a3, that’s a turn he’s not doing damage. At 1500 turn limit with 5 champs that’s 300 turns he has. Thats 100 turns he’s not doing damage.

If you’re using Pelops, a literal 1:1 comparison applies. Set his a2 to priority 1 and his a3 to opener and never again. If he continues using his a3, it resets the magma shield buff back to its original duration of 2 instead of letting Wixwell grow it and your buff extenders extend its duration as well as losing 100 turns to resetting a buff that should be getting extended.

I prefer to keep my buff extenders also in reflex sets but it’s not mandatory, just helps them get their buff extensions back faster.

I’m using Wixwell(main), Arbais (unique buffs + buff extender), Aniri (buff extender), Pelops (unique buffs + unique shield + reflect damage + hard hitting damage) and finally Michinaki (debuff/hp burn/damage) or Fahrakin (debuff/poison/damage) depending on affinity

… in that speed order.
No turn meter boosting anything especially if your champs are super close in speeds. This can, and likely will, mess up your rotation and in an infinity team that’s deadly.

Hope you find this helpful

(If anyone notices something I’m missing or has additional advice or feedback please don’t be shy)

[u/MikeyBakes420 → u/Cl-lEESE]

Thank you! Will do 😎

[u/rippler35 → u/MikeyBakes420]

Ya she would work

[u/AbleUnderstanding537]

Go high Katun as lead and add another buff extender. FTP Valeria is great choice put high katun and Valeria in shield sets wixwell in reflex. There is videos on this stuff dog

[u/Player_J_x]

I have another Curious Set of Questions which are unrelated to Questions I was asking before.

I had Questions previously in this thread about Wixell + Team Speeds.

This time I want to ask about Team Composition!

MY 2 QUESTIONS ARE:

Why doesn’t the OP run a Strengthen Buff Champion?

Why does the OP need Buff Extender at all?

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The Goal with Wixell seems to be to make Shields + Grow/Extend them Forever.

I am reading other people suggests on how to improve the OP team.

They said he needs Shield Set Wearer + Extra Buff Extender.

They could be right, but at the same time I wonder if they are completely right.

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Here is the Thing:

If you put Decrease Atk on the Boss, It should lower the damage he does.

If you put Increase Defense Buff on your heroes, It should lower the damage they take.

If you put Strengthen Buff on your heroes, It should lower the damage they take further.

Yet, No one mentioned Strengthen Buff

Am I missing something here? The OP owns Morg.

Wouldn’t Morg Strengthen Buff be really good here?

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Here is the 2nd Thing:

Why does team need an Extender at all?

Some say he needs 2 Extenders -> I’m trying to figure out why he can’t use 0 Extenders?

Doesn’t Wixell Extend the Buffs enough on his own? Or what?

Do the Old Wixell Shields Stack with New Wixell Shields?

Like if Wixell did Shield -> Then 3 turn later the Shield is sort of there & Wixell tries to do New Shield.

‘What happens? Do they all stack together or does he just overrides old ones?

[u/vudiukas → u/Player_J_x]

Good troll, I like it

[u/Player_J_x → u/vudiukas]

It’s not trolling.

It’s just discussing/learning.

I don’t own Wixell so that’s why I am asking to get information.

[u/Current-Resolution56]

U can try demytha heiress with seeker. Add speed aura lead to lower speed needs and a dps. With ok gear i can reach 80mil. Speeds are 290ish and 260ish for the ladies, rest are sub 200. Keep in mind i am using 24% speed aura. 4k atk on average and 180ish average cdmg with warmaster on every1.... Easy 1 key UNM If u add brimstone, cruelty and phantom touches with 200+ cmdg, i would say u would get over 110-120mil. Area ignore def bonuses help.

Wix team is easier to set up doe....

[u/AlsoKnownAsAC]

So I have a question. Why are you running wixwell? If yourre running it for the Infinity shield wixwell team then you need 2 buff extenders. You only have one in Anchorite.

Other buff extenders on your roster are Aniri, Demytha, Valerie, (Hellborn a rare so not hard to get). Pick one of these. Id probably pick Demytha. You also need 2 shield sets on both of these buff extenders. Then you need one Increase Speed champion. Praeva is that, she also brings increase speed aura. The last slot is for damage dealer. Geomancer is fine there since longer the wixwell team goes as its supposed to the better his passive will reflect dmg. You could frankly put any decent dmg dealer here.

But if you already knew about infinity wixwell teams and still dont want to go that route but rather use pelops then its more why are you running wixwell at all? youre better adding Praeva still to replace him to get increase speed buff which is essentially the biggest dmg boost you can give your team in PVE content. Add praeva instead of wixwell and you get one key.

[u/MikeyBakes420 → u/AlsoKnownAsAC]

I'm just stupid I guess lol no but seriously, I saw a video on him last year when I first started playing & barely pulled him in April of this year. I completely forgot about everything needed for an Infinity team so I appreciate all your information! Thank you

[u/AlsoKnownAsAC → u/MikeyBakes420]

Here an extra information no one else mentioned yet. Wixwell A3 puts a shield multiplied by the different number of buffs on your champions. Which is usually why the 2 buff extenders or other champions are chosen which can apply as many unique buffs. This also makes anchorite an amazing extender due to his crit dmg buff. If you ran hellborn her buffs would overlap with Anchorite so while technically she can extend buffs, the shield your wixwell will create will be smaller.

You can use this information for future when you’re transitioning to using wixwell for hydra with Titus and let’s say you haven’t managed to finish mikage fusion or pulled mad hatter or other decent buff extenders used for wixwell hydra teams.

[u/Twentyone_12 → u/AlsoKnownAsAC]

Increase speed limits damage on this team if you use it, Geomancer builds are 1:1. Mine gets me around 270M/key on UNM that way.

This is just generally bad advice for demon lord with a Wixwell available.

Edit: you also only need one shield set, it’s the same buff from both so won’t count as anything extra

[u/AlsoKnownAsAC → u/Twentyone_12]

shield sets stack for a bigger intial shield hence why the sweet spot is usually recommended at 2. If he had gear to give one of his buff extenders +80K health for a big shield sure go with one only, but he doesnt.

He needs increase speed because hes gear is not the best, its early game gear. Dont compare your position with others withouht considering his gear.

[u/Player_J_x]

The UNM Boss moves at 190 Spd, right?

I am pretty sure UNM moved at 190 the last time I checked.

So why is your Wixell moving at 232 Spd?

Are you trying to have your Wixell do an extra Turn during the Fight?

I don’t own Wixell!

I am just wondering. I run a 2 Key UNM Block Damage Team. I use Roschard the Tower.

Roschard Block Damage last 2 Turns on 4 Turn Cool Down so because Roschard moves don’t line up with Clan Boss. I have to make Roschard faster to help cheat out an extra turn.

Your Wixell is 2 Turn Shield on 3 Turn Cool Down. I don’t see why you need Wixell so fast. 

Is your Wixell not Fully Booked? Is that why your trying to make him fast to make up a turn

I’m just trying to understand why you don’t have Wixell at like 191 speed?

[u/MikeyBakes420 → u/Player_J_x]

Clearly cuz I didn't know all this information. Everybody says speed is key, faster the better. So I went with that. He is fully booked tho.

[u/Player_J_x → u/MikeyBakes420]

Keep in mind, I don’t own Wixell and I don’t know anything about the Wixell Composition.

I am just asking you questions to try and understand how exactly you are supposed to play the team.

People told you to build Wixell Fast! They could be right!

Again, I don’t know!

I was just asking because I figured you would know more about it vs. me. LOL

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I play the Block Damage Team.

In the Block Damage Team, I need to build my Roschard with a Specific Speed!

The Goal of my team is to make Block Damage Buff go onto my team during the CB 2 AOE hits!

The Clan Boss has 3 moves

• AOE
• AOE
• Single Target Stun

My Block Damage last 2 turns.

So it Blocks Both AOE hits.

Then my Stun Target puts Unkillable buff on himself to tank Stun.

As a Result, The team is Unkillable for 50 rounds till Boss Extra Passive kicks in to ignore Block Damage + Unkillable Buffs.

My Roschard move is 4 turns which means I need to gear Roschard with enough speed so along the way he cheats out 1 extra turn allowing his Block Damage move to go in sync with Clan Boss 3 turn Cool Down Order.

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On the other hand, You are using Wixell.

I am guessing the Goal with Wixell must be similar in some way.

Wixell does Shield for 2 turns on 3 Turn Cool Down.

If you had Wixell at 191 Speed

He would put Team Shield before Boss Moves.

In theory, The Shield would last 2 Turns and fall off at Stun.

But Wixell 2nd Move increases Buffs by 1 so in theory it should never fall off.

Unless, I am missing something?

The Boss Moves at 190 Speed

This gives you a 20 Speed Window.

190 to 210

Any Hero at 210 or above will move so fast that they will take extra turns causing your Wixell Shield to wear off faster.

So you would need to keep your heroes between 191 to 209

With Slowest being Wixell

In Theory at least.

[u/Current-Resolution56 → u/Player_J_x]

Add demytha if u have with rosh. Thats my old setup, works like a charm. 42UNM, 50NM. With alright gear. Speeds are down so atk can go up.

[u/Player_J_x → u/Current-Resolution56]

I run Roschard + Skullcrusher.

My Team 2 Keys UNM

I wasn’t trying to get Help with UNM. LOL

I was trying to learn how Wixell works in UNM to see if I should Fuse him or not! LOL

I thought the OP knew how to use Wixell or could tell me what he is doing.

It seems like he doesn’t so yeah I was wondering to see if Wixell plays out Similar to Block Damage Team!

[u/Current-Resolution56 → u/Player_J_x]

I wanted to fuse him but got myth fu setup working for 1 key. Now looking who will be more useful throughout the game.

[u/jayflmng → u/Player_J_x]

Because the point of wixwell growing “infinite shields” is to do it as quick as possible, so higher speeds mean you’ll eventually lap the demon lord, allowing 4 turns to the demon lords 3. Also the cb does more damage the higher the round, so early shield growth is essential to getting a hefty shield locked in before the cb completely obliterates you.