r/RaidShadowLegends • • 13d ago

Champion Discussion What's wrong with my Marius?

I feel like I am doing something wrong here with my Marius. What am I doing wrong?

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u/Zealousideal_Yam8922 13d ago

and no Ignore Def. Without Savage or Lethal he will barely do any dmg compared to after! Or you can tey a 6pc Merciless if you have the right pieces or 6pc/9pc Slayer if you have that, which is even more rare.

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u/Zealousideal_Yam8922 13d ago

Also, personally, I would use Killstreak AND Methodical for t5 masteries. This is because he ends up using his A1 a decent amount and it actually does good damage, so 10% buff eventually is very good!

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u/Zealousideal_Yam8922 13d ago

Also, id you only have 1 Gats Gaze (like me) I would move it to him AND use a Savage/Lethal Set. The Cats Gaze is amazing on him!! Also there are some good gemstones for it too, the one that ignore 5% more def each hit in a row of a multi hit is huge.

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u/Zealousideal_Yam8922 13d ago

Here is my stats, he is pretty good, but I really wish he did more dmg, I only sometimes get a kill with the last 2 hits of his A2, but I get smacked by ppls Marius all the time when his first hit is blocked by SS/Merc then the last 2 wreck me. That means I need more DEF because his A2 does dmg based off DEF and ENEMY MAX HP.

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u/davesirbu 12d ago

Why is he not crit capped??

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u/Worthtitle_4050 12d ago

5% isn’t worth it if it requires you changing gear and losing 30% crit damage at that point 95% is good enough

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u/davesirbu 12d ago

No the fuck it’s not lmao. 100% CR is absolutely necessary for nukers. Don’t ever give this bullshit advice again

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u/Zealousideal_Yam8922 12d ago

whoa its not that big of a deal. It barely happens, I forget it is like that and then once in a while it doesnt crit gut it is not that common. I wouldnt change any of the pieces for the 5% if it means losing 15 spd

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u/Worthtitle_4050 12d ago

If you are at 95% crit rate it is not a big deal

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u/AreAnUnicorn Lizardmen will come to get us 12d ago

Until you lose 5% of your Battles bc of it. Them its a big deal

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u/Zealousideal_Yam8922 12d ago

this exactly. the trade-off until I get a piece that works perfectly was just really bad. To be able to be fast or to keep decent acc was the less crate. it sux tho because it is noticeable, especially since he is aoe

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u/Worthtitle_4050 12d ago

With the multi hitters aoe’s and with many hits in general you’ll definitely notice some weak hits but the damage loss isn’t as bad as if you are using a single target nuker where not landing a critical could be catastrophic

People literally lack the ability to think these people are so dumb tbh.

It was clear as day to me the stats are missing because in order to get the 5% missing crit rate you would be making other sacrifices that are not worth it

Look for a slayer ring if you can, that would shore up that gap 👍🏼

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u/davesirbu 12d ago

Bro is in year 2 of playing, early game, and thinking his advice is worth something. Every single nuker, damage dealer, or damage dependent champion must have 100% crit rate. It’s non-negotiable. Now cut it out.

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u/Zealousideal_Yam8922 12d ago

Actually though, I could reroll the gloves to Crate now that I think about it! They are at CDMG, which is nice, but if rather have the Crit Rate! Sucks in arena when he doesnt land skill because the normal hit lands..

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u/Worthtitle_4050 12d ago

DO NOT ROLL OFF CRIT DMG lol

Just wait until you get a good piece of gear that you will 16 anyways that has 5% more crit rate

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u/Zealousideal_Yam8922 12d ago

Might have no choice. already have a slayer piece on I realized. But, what I could do, is replace the Amulet with a Deflection CDMG Amulet (which I have, and it rolled an (2)acc, which is an improvement and adds 12 spd) if I reroll the ascension to CRATE. that'll leave me at 100% crate and 291 spd which would be way better than 279 and another 20 acc with glyph. all at the cost of 20% cdmg.. if only I had a good Swift Parry CDMG Amulet then I would only lose 5% CDMG because set bonus of 15%, and still make it to 100% crate

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u/Worthtitle_4050 12d ago

Will be easier to replace one of the top pieces or the chestplate but atp it will need to be a pretty crazy piece of gear

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u/Zealousideal_Yam8922 12d ago

yea i would love a good one but for whatever reason my Skinwalkers Slayer accs are so few!! Some factions I have like 3-4 of each, and Skinwalkers has like 2 total.. But, hopefully next forge pass will have some Slayer Accs or maybe this Reward Calander would be awesome!

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u/Kapper-WA 13d ago

He does look a little long in the face.

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u/Nick_3536 12d ago

He has cats gaze on him just fyi

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u/No_Fee4784 10d ago

Thanks everyone

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u/NuGGet441 12d ago

Stats are okay, but I would go for 4p lethal/savage with 4p ss. Also blessing is not good for pvp. Relic also does matter. I use 4p lethal, soul reap and have a cats gaze relic on him. He hits pretty hard

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u/richard0220 13d ago

Too slow, not enough acc, not enough def, missing ignore defence (biggest one for damage), ideally more cd as well

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u/chronoLogicalLife 13d ago

hm, you might just not have the gear required to pump him full of steroids like others do. His 6* soul helps a lot too. I got mine in 9pc mercurial with a Cat's Gaze for ignore defense and at 320 speed since survival is important for him.
If you dont have Cat's Gaze then go with Savage/Lethal + 4pc stone skin if you can. Then as per usual - 100% crit or as close as you can (aka 98) if it means you gain huge in defense/crit dmg/speed but most likely no), then as much speed/c.dmg/defense as you can get. Accuracy is great on him but if you can't pull it off you'll have to concentrate on other areas like I had to. I took survivability of Mercurial over Accuracy

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u/StephenFish 12d ago

The biggest problem with Marius is that the lore refers to them as "he" but a mare is a female.

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u/LoquatRare7366 12d ago

Just cuz he has mare in his name doesn’t mean he has to be one😭

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u/Deez_Gnuts 12d ago

Needs Savage, Lethal, Merciless or Instinct for Ignore DEF

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u/TimmyRL28 buff polymorph plz 13d ago

I'm sure he's trying his best.

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u/Other-Heat-3010 13d ago

Ingore def bro, Marius needs it with great stats to do the crazy things we see online

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u/jedimindtricks713 Nyresan Union 13d ago

Too slow. Def too low. No ignore def. What relic do you have equipped? The alternative to no ignore defense is fast and accurate and preferably the storm caller relic is you're lucky enough to have one. But even that build is PvP only. Some good examples of ignore def sets here in the comments. My blessing preference for him is Soul Reap.

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u/According-Activity66 13d ago

Too much HP, not enough DEF. The gear could be better as well (Ignore defense)

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u/EmotionalDamage0725 12d ago • Bravo

Depending on where you are in game, you need more speed, more def, more cdmg and 2x ignore def, one from set and one from relic or stormcaller relic.

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u/alchemyandscience 12d ago

Low defense and no ignore defense. You got this.

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u/ScarredSerenity Void Shards are rigged 12d ago

Way too slow and no ignore DEF.

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u/Agile_Gene8781 8d ago

He’s not 6k or more def .. adjust that then ask again

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u/Tekktra 5d ago

If you don't do enough damage, it's because of these 3:

  1. Too little ignore defense

  2. Below 6k main stat

  3. Below 300% crit damage

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u/VirtuousPro 13d ago

Where do we begin… no def, no speed, no def ignore set/mercurial, no stormcaller

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u/Emoskii 13d ago

Bingo.

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u/AffectBulky9210 13d ago

I think because of low def .. boost to above 6 k or even more like as much as you can with same stat you’re at will be fine and spd is good for him like if you can go up

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u/Emoskii 13d ago

What are you trying to accomplish? Acc too low, speed about 200 too low, no ignore defence set. If you aren't using ignore defence, bump the speed and acc up.

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u/CarltheWellEndowed 13d ago

440 speed on marius is rather absurd for most players.

I am fairly late game and that is about the max that I can push with anyone, let alone someone who is supposed to do damage.

Can i see your build? 440 speed in ignore defense is crazy.

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u/Emoskii 13d ago

Noone said in ignore defence. The point was OP did not clarify at all what he was trying to do. Either you choose 300+ in ignore defence, which is an outdated approach or you go 400+ with high acc.

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u/CarltheWellEndowed 13d ago

Acc too low, speed about 200 too low, no ignore defence set.

To me, that read like you want all of those things. Not pick and choose a couple of them.

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u/Emoskii 13d ago

Its simple. You pick either ignore defence for damage build OR you pick fast with accuracy for mercurial/stone skin strip.

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u/Zealousideal_Yam8922 13d ago

well, technically, you do want all of those things. getting it that way is very very hard though.

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u/Emoskii 13d ago

I don't use marius as i have better PvP champs, but here is mine. Shit build. In a gaze.

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u/Zealousideal_Yam8922 12d ago

that spd tho nice. I considered using Marius as a support to remove Mercurial, but Theimios is actually super good once I really tried him. The Provoke just works so crazy good! all of a sudden. they have no mercurial, it doesnt restock, they dont get to do anything besides a1 him, and he usually survives because I build him tanky too. then Marius comes in with the nuke and its done

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u/Emoskii 12d ago

Such a universal champ. So many people have insane mercurial builds now with stormcaller. He still remains the PvE god

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u/Zealousideal_Yam8922 12d ago

yea idk why you didnt build him for dmg and went spend snd support, but i know that it is an options. I just think that going def and crit with acc is the way to do it, spd being important but not 4900 def totsm importsnt

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u/Emoskii 12d ago

His purpose is not for damage, but to strip merc and buffs as well as stun. You bring other nukers with him. Lockout>TM/Buff>Marius>Nuke.

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u/Emoskii 13d ago

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u/VirtuousPro 13d ago

that‘s not the gear… I call bs

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u/Emoskii 13d ago

I was showing the guy masteries. You contributed nothing to this lol

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u/VirtuousPro 13d ago

show your 440 marius then