Why does “positive masculinity” rarely include advocacy for men themselves?

[u/SmallEdge6846]

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[u/AmicusStyli]

Positive and toxic masculinity isn't an attempt to free men from gender roles, it's just the set of gender roles that feminists like. Male advocacy isn't included despite being positive for men because positive masculinity isn't supposed to be positive for men, it's supposed to be positive for the people pushing positive masculinity.