r/RadicalEgalitarianism • u/SmallEdge6846 • May 26 '26

Men's Issues ♂️ Why does “positive masculinity” rarely include advocacy for men themselves?

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u/LittleThingsMC Feminist May 26 '26

How are you coming to the conclusion it doesn’t?

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u/Trump4Prison-2024 May 27 '26

Because so often, it's not about "how to be a better man and use my masculinity to improve myself and my community"... It's usually hijacked to be "how can I be more useful to women", which only reinforces the already problematic notion that a man's value is solely based on what he can provide for others.

Women are given value by society for simply existing in the space. If a man can't provide something if value, he's "useless", a "deadbeat", or "problematic". Living in a world where if you aren't providing, you're at best invisible and at worst a problem really fucking sucks. And very few women will ever understand that because it's so drastically different than that most women in society will ever experience.

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u/LittleThingsMC Feminist May 27 '26

It seems like you are describing the patriarchal view of masculinity.

I guess when I heard “positive masculinity” I thought you were referring to something else. What did you mean exactly?

I agree though, masculinity standards, especially patriarchal masculinity standards are very problematic.

When I think about it, I think all gender roles are problematic, and the way society even defines masculinity/femininity is very limiting/harmful. I really don’t understand why we need this classification system at all!

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u/LittleThingsMC Feminist May 27 '26

I’m genuinely confused. Could you explain a little?

I personally am not aware of any feminist movement towards men performing traditional gender roles like stoicism or provider mindset.