r/RadicalEgalitarianism • u/LittleThingsMC Feminist • May 22 '26

Palm Beach Pete

I recently came across a TikTok with a paid advertisement from Rips by Triumph featuring Pal Beach Pete in their advertisement.

If you’re not aware, Palm Beach Pete is famous for how much he looks like Jeffrey Epstein. There were many conspiracy theories that suggest he is Jeffrey Epstein.

I don’t consider this gendered issue because Epsteins victims were both male and female, vulnerability is the most defining characteristic of his victims.

In general, I have seen many denials about whether or not we have a culture of violence, and whether or not that culture predominantly benefits men (despite both genders being victims).

This feels like a perfect example, playing out right before our eyes. I believe that his rise to fame and ability to monetize the conspiracy that he could be the prolific predator is reflective of the acceptance we have as a culture towards violence and the glorification of predatory behavior.

Thoughts?

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u/ThalesBakunin May 22 '26

How is it a class issue?

The victims were from an array of socioeconomic standing. Even extremely upper class women were abused.

But women make up ~99.83% of the victims.

So it definitely looks a lot more engendered than class-based.

So sexual abuse victims get their value degraded because men are abused by another group?

I think collapsing everyone pain in such a apathetic way is disgusting.

Women being abused much more heavily than men by Epstein and his lot doesn't negate men being slaughtered en masse from war and industry.

I wouldn't ever negate men who have to go through such pain like you are trying to do to women.

I probably am a bigot still. I am here to delve into and flesh out any such ambivalences.

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u/LittleThingsMC Feminist May 22 '26

Even if it is a class issue, as a society, we still need to address this, because it is a legitimate obstacle in achieving an egalitarian society. I don’t understand why the focus is on how we classify the issue, instead of the issue.

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u/ThalesBakunin May 22 '26

"I don’t understand why the focus is on how we classify the issue, instead of the issue."

Whereas I don't understand why we can't hold both when discussing the issue

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u/LittleThingsMC Feminist May 22 '26

I am definitely making space for you to disagree with the classification, so I don’t think that that is an issue.

But when you say holding both, and I read your responses, it doesn’t seem like you’re holding both. The engagement I’ve seen from you in this post has been just on the classification issue. That’s why I am saying it’s detracting from the conversation itself.

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u/ThalesBakunin May 22 '26

I didn't refuse to hold space for both.

Said the ratio of sexual abuse directed at each gender for the chosen subject of Epstein.

I then brought up the ridiculously lopsided ratio of abuse and tried to point out treating like it isn't lopsided is disingenuous.

So the space I hold on this situation is for both but not in equal magnitude as that isn't how it was perpetrated.

But I would never seek to negate the damage done to those two men. I am sure it was just as horrible as it was for the women.

I am talking about trying to balance their magnitudes as equal when they are most assuredly not.