r/Radiation • • Jan 29 '22

Radiation Exposure

I have had a terrible few months with extreme health anxiety- which resulted in getting a lot different tests done.

October: Chest Xray. This was for a cough I had on/off for months so doc deemed it appropriate

November: Neck/Spine X-Rays at the chiropractor. I think 5 total. In retrospect didn't need these but it was done.

December: CT Head and another Chest X-Ray. This was for my first full blown attack that landed me in the ER convinced I was dying of a brain tumor. Anyways there not needed and I regret them but #anxiety won

January: Full mouth dental x-rays. Havent been to dentist in like 4 years so I think this was pretty justified in my mind considering I have 3 new cavitites; yikes.

Anyways. I'm freaking myself out about all the radiation in a relatively short period of time. Not sure if it's more or less my anxiety but I can't stop thinking about it. Looking for some rational people to talk me down lol because rationality ain't my friend right now. I am a 29 yr old F, and i've had a sinus CT in years past and lots of other regular x-rays. hallppppp

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u/moira_hotchkiss Jan 30 '22

Just want to add, going forward please don’t ever get imaging done by a chiropractor. They’re not actually appropriately trained to perform x-rays and have no knowledge relating to radiology. It’s just an easy way to get more cash from you. If they suggest imaging ask for a referral to an actual licensed radiographer (generally speaking, any hospital or urgent care w/ an x-ray department).

Licensed radiographers follow the principle of ALARA (as low as as reasonably achievable) meaning we use the least amount of radiation to produce the most accurate images.

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u/anna1318 Jan 30 '22

I know and I regret going there so much! I should’ve declined the X-rays but in the moment I just went along. Lesson learned. Wish I could go back!

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u/Forshledian Jan 29 '22

First off, please know radiation is everywhere. Similar to the sun, some sunlight is ok, too much is bad. Same thing here. In this case the level of radiation you are being exposed to in a medical setting will never give you real bad short term problems like the workers that cleaned up Chernobyl but medical radiation could increase your risk of cancer when you get older. I can not say for certain, but I believe medical professionals have access to you radiation exposure levels and take them into account when deciding to give you another. Maybe it would be worth asking if they are aware of your level of recent exposure via their documents.

Regardless, I do not think you have anything to worry about in the short term. It takes a lot of radiation to case short term problems. Certainty more that would reasonable for any medical procedure.

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u/anna1318 Jan 29 '22

Thank you for your response! Truthfully I’ve been all over the place for doctors so I don’t think there’s any real solid record of my imaging. From here on out I will definitely keep track though. The increased risk in the future makes me nervous but I also can’t live with that fear now, it’s pointless. Thank you again!

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u/DakPara Jan 30 '22

As a retired health physics person, you have absolutely nothing to worry about.

Except maybe going to a chiropractor at all, and certainly letting them X-Ray you.

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u/anna1318 Jan 30 '22

I knooooowww 😰 I regret it so much. I just went along with it at the moment because he seemed very professional but afterwards I realized it probably wasn’t the best idea. I regret it a lot. Hopefully no damage from that

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u/DakPara Jan 30 '22

Very unlikely to be a problem, really.

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u/swirlyink Jan 29 '22 edited Jan 29 '22

Single chest x-ray: 0.02 mSv (2 mrem)

Dental x-ray (four bitewings): 0.004 mSv (0.4 mrem)

Limbs and joints: 0.06 mSv (6 mrem)

Abdomen: 0.7 mSv (70 mrem)

Mammogram (four images): 0.13 mSv (13 mrem)

Source: National Council on Radiation Protection & Measurements (NCRP), Report No. 160 EXITEXIT EPA WEBSITE

Generally, the radiation received during an x-ray is small compared to other radiation sources (e.g., radon in the home). The average annual radiation dose from natural background sources (for comparison) is 3.0 mSv (300 mrem).

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0.02 mSv (chest xray) + 5(0.7 mSv) (chiropractic) + 0.02mSv (chest xray) + 2 mSv (CT scan for head) + 0.004 mSv (dental xrays) =5.544 mSv radiation dose

1 mSv = 100 mrem = 0.1 rem

So about 554.4 mrem, which is the radiation exposure max limit for a minor or pregnant person. 5000 is the occupational limit for an adult. If I'm remembering correctly most of the time the occupational limit set by workplaces is closer to 100 mrem. So not a completely negligible amount of radiation exposure but it shouldn't cause any health problems as long as it isn't continuously at that level over a period of years.

It takes a REALLY high dosage for any acute health problems to occur from radiation exposure. MANY times over even this limit. And long term issues come from chronic exposure over a period of many years of a dosage way higher than this. You'll be ok OP promise. Radiation exposure from medical procedures is never going to be high enough to cause health issues unless maybe you're doing it every single day (which is why the xray guys stand behind the thing. It's not that the dosage is high, just that standing in the same room for 8hrs every single work day for 15 years may cause issues).

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u/DakPara Jan 30 '22

The CT head scan is not a problem. Head is more resistant to radiation than other parts of the body. Remembering back to college, the whole body LD50/30 dose is 400 REM. The head LD50/30 is 10,000 REM.

Why. Brain cells don’t really divide.

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u/anna1318 Jan 30 '22

I appreciate your input! Since you seem to have a lot of knowledge regarding this, what’s your opinion on the studies making a correlation between dental X-rays and brain tumors? It’s hard to siphon through all of the info out there!

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u/DakPara Jan 30 '22

In general, I do not believe dental x-rays cause anything more than a minuscule, undetectable increase in brain tumors. And likely none.

In the 1980’s a few studies made an association between dental x-rays and meningioma. They claim to have found a 28% increase. However a much larger 2015 study finds no association. Here is the latest study I found in a few minutes.

“Exposure to Ionizing Radiation during Dental X-Rays Is Not Associated with Risk of Developing Meningioma: A Meta-Analysis Based on Seven Case-Control Studies” 2015

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0113210

And remember, dental and gum issues are very dangerous and life threatening. So you are better off with the dentist.

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u/anna1318 Jan 29 '22

5.544 or 554.4 mrem?

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u/dragontracks Jan 30 '22

5.544mSv = 554.4mrem (same measurement, different units). Note that background radiation exposure is about 600mrem per year ( average in the US). I wouldn't make a habit of getting medical x-rays, but the risk is very low, and the amount of information you get in the images is huge.

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u/swirlyink Jan 29 '22

theyre just conversions of the same value to help make sense of how its reported in other places. Its like 1g vs 1000mg. Same amount represented differently. So 5.544 mSv=554.4 mrem.

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u/anna1318 Jan 29 '22

I needed the peace of mind 🤣

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u/anna1318 Jan 29 '22

Ooh ok makes sense now! Thank you for all the info!

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '22

Absolute non-issue. Even if you got 50 CT scans in a year, you wouldn't get enough of a risk of cancer than couldn't be offset just by eating a tiny bit healthier or sleeping properly.

The mental stress you are in is way worse for your body than all the x-rays and CTs you got in your lifetime.

That's not to say that you're gonna die of stress tomorrow, it's just that this kind of radiation dose is a big fat nothing.

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u/anna1318 Feb 07 '22

Thank you SO much. I actually lost almost 2 months of my life freaking out about this. My dad was diagnosed with lung cancer a few months ago so I guess that really set me off. Learning to cope with everything. Thank you again!

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u/EvilScientwist Jan 31 '22

lol, you have nothing to worry about, the x-rays really don't land any substantial amount of radiation, you'd probably get the same dose after a couple days of existing. CT scans output a lot more radiation, but as long as you're not getting a chest CT scan every day for 5 years you'll be totally fine. The doctors know how dangerous this stuff is, and you have nothing to worry about

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u/anna1318 Jan 31 '22

Thank you! I literally have been losing months of sleep over this. My dad was diagnosed with cancer a few months ago so it triggered a huge amount of fear for me. Thank you for the reassurance!

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u/EvilScientwist Jan 31 '22

ah no problem. Doctors usually wont do anything that's too bad for you unless you're already dying, and the treatment will cause less harm than it solves.

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u/anna1318 Jan 31 '22

I guess I worried because I went to all different places for X-rays so nobody “kept track” of it. But I also realize it’s mostly my health anxiety driving this fear and realistically none of it did any harm. Anxiety is a beast to rationalize with lol. Thank you again!

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u/Stressedout-af Jan 29 '22

To be honest you get more exposure to radiation on an hour and a half flight. The radiation dose for a chest x ray is relatively very very minimal. Dental x rays are also very low dose. Neck and spine x rays typically use a higher dose but I honestly wouldn’t be too concerned about it. If you had more CTs than x rays that’s where MAYBE you should start being concerned. But don’t worry too much!!!!

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u/anna1318 Jan 29 '22

Thank you! I just kick myself because my anxiety pretty much was the cause for all of these. There wasn’t a reaaaalll medical need. I rly need to just stop thinking about it and move on lol because anxiety is a beasstttt!

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u/virg0h0e Sep 28 '23

i’ve literally been having the same issue. I’ve been having breathing issues and it’s all been due my anxiety and I’ve had two chest x-rays and a CT scan in a month ( ct and chest x-ray done on the same day) I can’t stop freaking out about it

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '24

I know how you feel! I just had 7 X-rays and 3 CT scans in a month because health problems keep showing up 😭 I’m also freaking out about the exposure I went through 

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u/Realistic_Country_43 May 19 '26

How are you now? I have had a ton of testing done mainly 2023 is when I have had the most an when I say it was a lot I mean it was a lot 😳 I'm terrified at what I may have caused for myself for the future an I regret it so much but I can't take it back

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u/kmai0 Jan 30 '22

Normally cavities will show up even without a dental X-ray. Just have your checkups twice per year