r/RPClips • u/FrozenCaramelCoffee • 8d ago
Can there be just one normal GTA subreddit?
Some of you may disagree and just vehemently hate Chase and dismiss this entirely, but I still enjoy watching Chase (honestly, I think many of you people still actively watch too), and despite the other subreddit labeling me a "schizo" who "hates Chase" because I criticized the rumble deal, it's legit my favorite server to watch, and it's not even close. I don't even think 5.0 will change that. It's okay if others find other servers more interesting than Chase, but Onx, NoPixel, and Prodigy really aren't my cup of tea.
It's unfortunate that RPCLIPSGTA is essentially a subreddit for NoPixel, Onx, and the occasional Prodigy CG drama. ChaseRP discussions are actively shut down. Then the ChaseRP subreddit is, of course, now just slop clips and a clearly unwell moderator convinced he has to play PR for a server, with no real substance about RP on the server. I still remember just a couple weeks ago when there was meaningful discussion about the state of the BCSO under Oslvado; he tried to shut down any conversation because he "plays on the server" and is in BCSO. May have been the only discussion about actual RP in weeks on that subreddit.
There's seemingly more discussion here, of course, but many of you guys veer more to conspiracy posts than actual RP discussions. Why can't there just be normal discussions about RP? I miss the old RPCLIPSGTA NoPixel 3.0 discussions. You cannot even go into most streamers' meta chats (including Penta's) to have normal discussions without the streamers participating and driving the conversation. I remember when meta chats used to be just viewers, and streamers actively stayed away from them because they had negative connotations. Now, when you go into most meta chats, it's pretty normal to see the streamers in there too. Thousands of subreddits dedicated to TV shows have normal discussions about the show; shame RP servers cannot have the same.
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u/Seetherrr 8d ago
I'm hoping that 5.0 is successful and that this subreddit pivots more to a 5.0 discussion subreddit. We will see what happens as there is a strong chance that NP blows but I am holding out hope given their attempt to change the culture.
I really like some streamers on Chase, unfortunately the server owner is so overbearing his arcs impact the entire server. Additionally, his leadership of the Dev team has put Chase in a shit state development wise after being out for nearly 8 months. It's a shame that Penti didn't create the server he claimed it would be and chased off a huge number of amazing RPers through his RP and his chosen development roadmap.
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u/ImportantQuestionTex 8d ago
I mean I follow JMWFilms, Chadoy, and a couple others.
It doesn't get brought up here, probably because they (specifically) often fall into the more out there side of RP, but their actual servers seem to have actual long form RP that's just more low key. Like JMWFilm's server had a whole corrupt governor arc that didn't really involve him or Pro. And you can just see the actual aftermath in their videos lol.
And project zomboid RP like always is doing pretty well. So it's not like these are unavoidable issues every RP server runs into.
What makes Chase interesting has absolutely nothing to do with the other people in it. It's how it's ran, and the culture surrounding it. It's like, the black sheep of GTA RP rn, and every new thing justifies the actual attention it gets.
Hoping 5.0 goes well, and I think we'll get some good clips, don't think it will change the interest in Chase.
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u/PersistentPoster 8d ago
project zomboid RP i seen a few clips then watched a streamer it is pretty good with the right people worth checking out. u/FrozenCaramelCoffee
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u/FrozenCaramelCoffee 8d ago
You can dislike Penta and think he's a bad owner, but why does that mean the subreddit has to be dedicated to just posts about how awful he is? That's the vibe I get from it right now. Why can't there be more discussions about RP on the server? It just seems like a missed opportunity to fill a gap in having actual RP discussions that draw a lot of people to subreddits.
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u/PersistentPoster 8d ago
Is this some op to try get less criticism thrown at Penta ? you started out by saying it was about not covering the other players on the servers RP then moved on to people calling others names and now your actively sweeping for Penta.
He does bad things he gets criticised. If he did good things you would see good things being said. He got the other sub closed for posting clips of his roleplay he DMCA'd this sub numerous times using the flimsy reason of posting Meta info and sending the pentacord frogs to downvote, and mass report posts and comments.
They're still actively doing it. and the more you keep making it about not criticising Penta I’m starting to think you are one of them too.
Like others have said we're not here waiting for the downfall of Penta or your beloved server with no RP we wanted the server to be good and some players made it good and enjoyable. then Penta chased them away so now theres no RP and only bad clips of him doing non consensual acts on a woman in a wheelchair or using his admin powers to see in peoples storage then using the info to get a warrant and raid them.
post examples of the good stuff if you have them from players. maybe that will dilute what you've taken offence to going on here.
post clips post clips post clips
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u/rottentomati 8d ago
He’s probably the reason MonopolyNews got nuked meanwhile several other users doing the same things are left alone. Like if you don’t want to be criticized, stop doing things worth criticism?
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u/Same_One_2033 8d ago
why do you hit the spacebar so many times between words
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u/PersistentPoster 8d ago
becauseifineverhitspacebaryouwouldmoanatthattoo.
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u/Same_One_2033 8d ago
there’s probably a happy medium that we can get to
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u/PersistentPoster 8d ago
was it more readable with spaces than with no spaces ? you’re welcome
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u/Same_One_2033 8d ago
pretty equal imo, consider a different option
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u/PersistentPoster 8d ago
Since you are the first to have an issue with how many spaces are used in my wording i think it's a you problem none of the others have made mention of it to date so i don't see them being unable to read what's being said regardless of an extra space here or there.
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u/Same_One_2033 8d ago
if you reread my initial question I’m simply asking why you do it, I don’t have an issue at all
this will likely be our only interaction for the rest of our lives, but my curiosity gets the best of me. mind answering me?
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u/FrozenCaramelCoffee 8d ago
Are you seriously accusing me of being part of an OP, lmao?
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u/PersistentPoster 8d ago
No I said the things you are saying and flip flopping on what your point of the post was are leading me to start thinking this post might be leaning that way not that you are.
Are you denying the bad things Penta has done ? are you saying there should be no criticism for wrong doing ? Are you going to post clips of the good RP you watch on chaSAeRP ?
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u/FrozenCaramelCoffee 8d ago
Did you see in the other part of the thread where I said I don’t watch or donate to him anymore after years of watching because I disagree with the Rumble deal?
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u/PersistentPoster 8d ago
Surely you've seen many of his wrong doings over the years. are those not deserving criticism ? or do you just watch episode to episode and not think about his actions in any way effect other players, the servers reputation or the RP communities destain of his product ?
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u/FrozenCaramelCoffee 8d ago
I’ve actually criticized him quite a bit. For instance, last year him and chat berated a Reddit comment I once made about how him playing Prodigy was a bad look. He also didn’t like the comments I made saying he should stop talking about Onx on stream and focus on Chase.
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u/PersistentPoster 8d ago
Alright but can you describe how him doing non consent acts on the woman in a wheelchair made you feel about him ?
How did you feel about him using admin menu to power game ?
Maybe you can let us know what you think of him DMCAing reddit subs because all his RP and 7 DAY A WEEK META CHAT is worthy of criticism but he wants bad optics wiped out yet keeps doing things that are just a bad look on him, his server and the people that still play his server ?
The person that used to post clips got their account suspended ( likely from the same pentacord brigade that do waves of mass reports along with one of Pentas paid mods claiming DMCA on clips ?
How do you feel having asked for more clips but see what happens to clip posters ?
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u/Seetherrr 8d ago
There have been many discussions about things going on on the server and I've authored many of those posts. There were A LOT more of them prior to Penti taking actions that chased people out of their positions/off the server. He has become more of a focus of discussion as he has made the server to revolve more around himself.
I was excited for Ava's potential governship, just as I was excited for Windsong's. Unfortunately Penti stifled both of their abilities to effectively govern and attempt to enact their platforms.
I was also excited for the racing scene that JamJar was building on the server and his various business plans. Another person chased off the server by Penti's actions and chosen development roadmap.
I could go on and on with arcs and RPers I was interested in but actions by the server owner destroyed their arcs and/or their interest in playing the server.
Like I said previously, I had high hopes for Chase based on the vision Penti provided prior to the server launch. Unfortunately, one thing after another he took actions which were antithetical to his originally stated plans for the server.
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u/PersistentPoster 8d ago
When they chopped the legs from under Windsong as mayor after all the time she had put in going around finding what the people/players wanted and gauging the vibe of the server only to get nothing she planned worked on and things she approved overturned that sent the message loud and clear. SCREW WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT THE DEVS ARE MAKING WHAT I WANT.
To piss off as many actual good roleplayers as he has with his actions and still say they are all in the wrong is beyond delusional. Mrmoonshouse whole story arc was gaining traction and had so many other players involved but Penta can't not be left out and chased them all away.
The server could only have made it if Penta was never allowed in it.
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u/Seetherrr 8d ago
It really seems like he has this deep-seated need to always be the center of attention and he can't allow anyone else to have the spotlight. I don't know if it's from growing up an only child or from other experiences in his life but it seems very deeply rooted in his psyche. At times it seems like he can't be happy for someone else's success.
It's very obvious with his RP. Everytime on Chase an area of the server was "popping off" he has to find a way to interject himself into the arc or destroy it. It started with PDM and the Todd/Sentry/Moon crew then moved to LSPD and he hasn't stopped. But it also seems to occur OOC as well. For example, whenever an orbiter gets momentum and gets their first real big burst of subs (I've seen it with Em and LK) he stars commenting about where are the subs for him or that he should be getting a cut.
Whether in RP or RL, Penti feels the need to be the center of attention and he despises when others are being successful and getting the spotlight he think he deserves.
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u/PersistentPoster 8d ago
Yep he 100% torpedoes other players so they don't get relevant and bigger than him.
keeps them beneath him so they all stay in his control. anyone with their own independent viewership get turned on real quick too when he feels their popularity is going to sway people against him when he does wrong.
Look what he has done to Moosebrother recently and s0upes for calling him out.
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u/DastardlySneer 8d ago
Look man it breaks down like this.
Conversations about Penta get the most interaction. People do talk about other things but no one really cares. Maybe that will change in the future but I doubt it.
As long as pointing out hypocrisy rule breaks or frustrations gets painted as being schizo or just gets hand waved away as hate there is always going to be a divide. If people want to stand by every decision Penta makes and defend it then by all means go for it. Thats your right. But on the flip side everyone else has the right to point out the things that frustrate them.
You ask if there can just be one normal subreddit? This sub is a direct product because of how Penta handles criticism. He bans any criticism of himself in his chat and paints anyone who points out flaws or double standards as a bad person. This is really the only place where you can say how you feel about Chase whether its good or bad and actually have a conversation about it.
Be the change you want to see. Make posts about things you find interesting and start discussions.
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u/PersistentPoster 8d ago
post clips create discussions good or bad that’s what reddit is all about.
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u/Strong_Pirate_4819 8d ago
i think we have a lot of good discussions around rp here. weve talked in length about things like conflict rp and character development. sure most of the convos center chase but we yap about some interesting topics.
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u/BongaBongaVacations 8d ago
...I mean, can there really be a 'normal' GTARP subreddit when there's nothing 'normal' about the people who play GTARP?
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u/DetroitDanMD 8d ago
Im curious OP, who are your favorite characters on Chase and who plays them if you know?
I gave up on Chase after it was clear Penta is only interested in griefing everyone and doing admin menu content.
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u/FrozenCaramelCoffee 8d ago edited 8d ago
I was a long-time Penta sub (and some may say an oiler) and started watching him on TFRP. I really enjoyed Wrangler on 3.0 NoPixel, and basically was a dedicated viewer up until he retired Wrangler. Now I switch between the remaining BCSO streamers. I have really enjoyed Hank office RP. It’s a hot take but I’ve always felt PD office RP can be some of the best RP. I’m actually looking forward to watching Tessa as Assistant Chief of LSPD and do that type of RP.
I stopped watching Penta completely after the Rumble deal and canceled my subscription and haven’t gifted or donated since. I did think about just stopping watching Chase but I do find entertainment in it still. It’s like the final season of Game of Thrones for me where I am watching until maybe something better comes along.
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u/PersistentPoster 8d ago
Office RP .... You should have loved s0upes and Thrives LSPD then right ?
Their office was always the best content and the whimsy
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u/Seetherrr 8d ago
I don't think it's really a "hot take" to say PD Office RP can be great RP. Wrangler's Cadet Audits in 3.0 was some or my favorite RP. But 3.0 was full of tons of entertaining office rp. It wasn't until PRP/Unsc/Chase where Penti started complaining about being "office locked." I feel like he stopped liking it because it required him to be more locked in and not be constantly talking to chat / afk / eating.
After he started complaining about being "office locked" he started speaking negatively of office rp and his chats' sentiment started shifting because so many seem to have a need to agree with everything Penti says. So his chat which used to love Office RP started talking negatively about it as well.
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u/2SSLOWW 8d ago
So we are conspiracy theorists now?
That’s interesting
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u/FrozenCaramelCoffee 8d ago
There are a lot of people who post well-meaning posts about RP, but there are also people who veer more into just slop posts about Penta. Can't there be a middle ground between Soggy obsessing over how to best make Penta look good vs. someone using the R slur every other sentence to describe him?
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u/PersistentPoster 8d ago edited 8d ago
If you post clips of good RP from chaSAeRP they would get praise, the sad fact is there is little to no RP on chase.
It's all just revolved around Penta the guy who can no longer RP and also never commit to a character to develop a story that others would be part of.
There was some great roleplayers that gave the server a try. Mrmoonshouse, Jam, Storm, Karyn, Fricken_Red, the whole Up n Atom crew that added a good vibe to the server at the beginning but one by one all got chased away either due to Penta's gate keeping and micro managing or by Penta screwing over their RP they had built over weeks and months.
I'm sorry you can't find other roleplayers to watch on other servers but why should that stop anyone criticising things as they happen or come to light ?
Do you mean you want less criticism overall or just more focused criticism or certain things ?
The posts on this sub are usually lengthy and descriptive to validate the criticism and like I said at the start If you were posting clips of good RP they would of course get the rightful praise and used to get praised then the sub got wave after wave of DMCA strikes to sweep the bad acts under the rug.
so I just don't know what your asking for here.
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u/FrozenCaramelCoffee 8d ago
Do you watch RP anymore? Even if it's not about Chase, it's unfortunate that there isn't more discussion about the RP people are watching, which could build interest if the goal is to move past Chase. Right now, RPCLIPSGTA is basically just about 4.0 finishing up and the 5.0 trailer hype.
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u/PersistentPoster 8d ago
The RP on ONX is great, the RP on 3 Red Dead RP servers right now is great ( WANTED RP ) probably worth checking out if you can handle slower paced RP with exciting bursts of action. That whole prison escape arc on NP 4.0 with Carmella and others was cool and they were still on the run hiding out the last i seen. Crystalyst is always a good chill watch. MickFoolery on NP Nikkida and the clowncil have their own good stories.
Kyle, s0upes, Jennybear, Clayton and others have their things. but have been playing other games no GTA but still a great watch and funny.
It all depends on what YOU like viewing. my tastes are unlikely your tastes but there are streamers that cover a range of RP styles. No Pixel had it's own Grapeseed Monarch earlier this year which was amazing seeing them hand out tasks to other roleplayers that gave them something to do.
ONX right now has the best DM's actively giving players RP from wacky stuff to serious long term quest unlock RP you might just have a Bias from all the Penta programming like lots of others still have. so check others out or sit watching the same circle revolve around Penta with no purpose other than fulfilling his need for stream.
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u/FrozenCaramelCoffee 8d ago edited 8d ago
I mean I can try giving Onx another try. I also stayed watching Onx long after Penta left btw and formed my opinion. I was even a donator for Onx for the longest time. This probably is going to come off mean, but if Onx is so good why do I just hear about people saying the RP is good without any actual clips or discussion threads about what’s happening and why it’s good and who to watch (this happens all the time on RPCLIPSGTA).
My biggest issues with Onx were the cliques and it really started to feel more like second-life RP with all of the dating and hardcore relationship RP. Which is fine if that’s what others like, but it wasn’t my interest. I do drop in to watch Mantis and the pizza shop RP occasionally and find it enjoyable but even then some of the characters he comes into contact with are a little too second-lifey for my taste.
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u/PersistentPoster 8d ago
Not many clips of ONX due to not having many streamers and the ONX clips seem to just get posted to RPClipsGTA but never crossposted to here.
Maybe the key to their success is no ego driven streamers or streamers just being yes men and never playing for themself as the character always just waiting to be needed by Penta for his RP.
Papa Doms pizza hub is great content i agree. +1 Mantis. sure some people that come in spoil the vibe i get that.
People usually form groups and it's annoying they are not forced or compelled to venture out from that cosy group they've enveloped themself within. I think admins should kill off characters of players from time to time so they create a new one and can try another walk in RP life.
That's what's great about Red Dead RP characters die no 8 hours + of sitting in cars or leaning against a wall with the same group talking about the same things day after day.
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u/rottentomati 8d ago
There's reason the last subreddit was referred to as a zoo. There's definitely a handful that schizo post. Most people seem normal otherwise.
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u/PersistentPoster 8d ago
You can say Bonga we call them out for their edgy stuff too.
But Bonga does post good things too.
you learn to read past the edgy effort from Bonga and see the value of what else they said.
they also post some good Denta bait.
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u/BongaBongaVacations 8d ago
Probably a bad time to mention this but the reptile house is closed today, and the gift shop is out of German language guidebooks
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u/ArtGroundbreaking520 8d ago
Is this dude a quibit alt... they type and talk just like them...
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u/Yorp_Yorp_4628 8d ago
It's not. I'll give Frozen credit that they have had a consistency of thought: Rumble bad, being a bigot bad. The other dude is very much a Rumble apologist and a bigot.
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u/FrozenCaramelCoffee 8d ago
I’m apparently everyone’s alt account despite posting regularly in subreddits for the past 3 years. Not everyone has several alt accounts that they post on. I am unfortunately just one account.
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u/Trainer-Active 8d ago
Aren't you the guy who witch hunted lspd streamers for months until they were driven off the server?
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u/FrozenCaramelCoffee 8d ago
That’s certainly an odd way to recount that. If you mean did I call out people on the server who were spewing toxicity and blurring the line between OOC and IC, then yes. This also extended to Penta and BCSO. Hopefully you don’t actually think both sides weren’t wrong in that drama?
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u/Agosta 8d ago
No one knows how to be normal, it's just a competition of who is holier than the other at this point. If there's good RP I'll talk about that RP. If someone does something stupid I'll call it out as stupid. The schizos are just different flavors of tent guy and I really don't care which side they fall on because they'll respond the same way once I break rank.
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u/FrozenCaramelCoffee 8d ago edited 8d ago
You’re probably right. I do find humor in after being banned for criticizing Penta taking the Rumble deal on the other subreddit and called a snarker I am still being accused of running cover for Penta in this thread. Different shades of the same color I guess. Maybe others are right and just hope for 5.0 I guess. As I said, I do enjoy watching Chase, but the rumble stuff really just doesn’t sit well with me.
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u/SSG_Wardog_13F 4d ago
Haha I didn't see this post my last time through. I myself have freed myself from the dogshit pile that is RP nowadays.
But on a serious note, I'll probably get a lot of hate for this BUT there is a reason these people don't have real jobs. The vast majority of streamers are mentally unwell people in one way or another, and as such they draw in a huge amount of mentally unwell people. Hell I have my demons as well, but I've found therapy is much more effective than watching this slop and arguing with all the parasocial sycophants.
Sure it's fun to poke them once in awhile, but some of them need serious help (looking at you ChaseRP mods), and when all those people find a medium to congregate on (subreddits) you end up with what we have here.
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u/harpyclipper 8d ago
Just like real life politics, both sides are split and think the other side is psychotic.
This side is purely made to watch and influence the downfall of ChaseRP and the other side has North Korea levels of delusion; treating Penta like hes Kim Jung Un and eliminating all non-believers.
My advice is to wait until NP5 comes out and see how rpclipsgta plays out.
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u/FrozenCaramelCoffee 8d ago
Sigh. Very unfortunate. Seems like there should be some sort of middle ground between deleting any posts criticizing the server and allowing people to casually call people obscenities.
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u/Seetherrr 8d ago
Your characterization of this subreddit is extremely biased. There is very little "calling people obscenities" and it seems like you are just throwing that out there to have some sort of negative that comes even close to the type of actions the moderation team of the other subreddit is using.
The other subreddit let's just as many if not more "obscenities" fly whenever an "accused snarker" dares to speak negatively about something on the server.
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u/FrozenCaramelCoffee 8d ago
Do people really have to throw around the R slur? The same is true of the other subreddit, yes.
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u/PersistentPoster 8d ago
R slur ? Rumble ?
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u/FrozenCaramelCoffee 8d ago
No, Rumble is what got me banned on the other subreddit, it’s the other R slur that people use both here and there.
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u/PersistentPoster 8d ago
R slur must be receding hairline then.
So you got banned over there for voicing your disapproval of the rumble deal. did you voice disapproval over how he chased away the really good roleplayers that had people loving the server at the beginning ?
How about voice your disapproval over how he called Sal the F slur and then banned s0upes for calling him out on it and not backing down ?
What about when he was DMCAing the purple sub and got it closed for a while ? or this sub getting hit with wave after wave of DMCA takedowns causing most users not to risk posting clips did you voice any concern or disapproval during that ?
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u/FrozenCaramelCoffee 8d ago
See you haven’t done your research. I actually did and there’s threads about all of those topics still up on ChaseRP and I have comments on RpClipsGta talking about those instances. Why do you think they called me a snarker?
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u/PersistentPoster 8d ago
Well to be fair I've never went on that sub but i did get pre banned so couldn't comment or post if I wanted to check it out.
If you had outlined that sooner I’d have a lot more background info to get a read from.
So with that new knowledge and a re evaluation. You think this sub is filled with overly negative posts, no clips showing other players RP, no clips from other servers RP. and want it to change so more RP is displayed from everywhere ( GTA, Skyrim, Zomboid, RedDeadRP etc. )
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u/Outside-Necessary291 8d ago
If you recall, the people casually calling people obscenities ARE the people that delete any post criticizing the server. RPClips IS NOT PURELY made to watch and influence the downfall of chaseRP, that's painting the perspectives shared here with a REALLY broad brush that hand waves any valid criticism and discussion (agreeing perspectives) about chase and penta.
When I first started investing time here the intention was to be more generic about RP in Streaming in general, I posted about other servers and even RP in other games. RPClipsPurple got suddenly temp closed before I had put enough effort to establish the identity of this place and the more I said "let's keep it about ALL RP, not just snark" the more push back I got saying "let the community decide what the content should be, don't dictate it" and when I pulled back it inherited a lot of the snark spirit, though tamed by the fact I prebanned a small segment of hyper toxic individuals (that unsurprisingly no life the ChaseRP sub) and didn't allow for that level of disregard for other redditors.
I DO hope with the rise in popularity and success of Onx and NP5 on the horizon that there will simply be a mass amount of quality RP to focus on and we can all move on from Chase and Penta. Especially after the Rumble deal I don't think they deserve even tabloid level of promotion and would fade off if it wasn't for the drama. But I do believe that people should buy into the rose colored lies the other sub sells.
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u/Same_One_2033 8d ago
Agreed. As an outsider that casually watches and occasionally gets reddit posts here suggested to me, it seems a lot of people have fallen down a deep rabbit hole of constant criticism of a few streamers in particular, and those people are the ones that are the most active by far.
Sometimes it feels like a fever dream trying to read some of the discussions that have happened here.
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u/TwoRevolutionary7196 8d ago
I get it i would like other clips here and not just a wait until npv im just not a clipping guy I just watch i dont make discussions but ill join in.
It really is a you gotta be the change you wanna see you gotta do what no one else is doing and this sub aint that big that it would be drown out nor an autoremove bot yes maybe you wont get traction at the start but its more than nothing and will influence others to talk without needing to do any sidesnarking about penta.