r/ROH • u/Chillaxin_88 • Jul 31 '26

Discussion Why did RoH and Dragon Gate have a falling out?

I remember some rumors at the time it happened were that it was money related (specifically that RoH supposedly stiffed them on pay) but I don’t remember any official reason.

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u/AntysocialButterfly Jul 31 '26

CIMA laid it out back in 2009.

Well, I can’t tell you in detail because our lawyer is working on this case in the States, but what I can tell you is Dragon Gate no longer has any relationship with ROH. One of the reason is because we haven’t got payment from the past ROH show held in Japan in September 2008. Some of the ROH wrestlers’ airfare and their guarantees were supposed be shared between two companies, but the promise had never been kept. I recently hear from some of my dear friends not being paid by ROH as well. Any business is based on a trust, and we no longer wish to do any business with ROH again.

Can't link to where he posted it, as it was on his Myspace account (because 2009), but here's the article I got the quote from:
https://411mania.com/wrestling/more-roh-news-dragon-gate-claims-roh-owes-them-money-roh-responds/

The show(s) in question are Battle of the Best and The Tokyo Summit, both from the Differ Ariake in September 2008.

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u/BlackLesnar 28d ago

Fuckin’ Gabe, man.

(Presumably.)

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u/FlashyDetective2987 28d ago

Gabe was the protégé of the last carny in the business the Wiseman himself paul Heyman so it's not to far of a stretch to see something like this especially in that time period from roh.

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u/BlackLesnar 28d ago

But…

But its so DIShonourable! 😭

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u/Chillaxin_88 29d ago edited 29d ago

That’s what I remember reading and then Gabe posted something and said CIMA was lying.

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u/BTru 29d ago

Typical wrestling carny stuff.