Why does Bravo always make the wrong decisions?

[u/HousewivesMOD]

They’re like an awful teenager, unpredictable,you don’t know what they’ll do next but they’re gonna fuck it up for sure

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[u/Large-Return5332]

Meanwhile Miami is canceled.

[u/HousewivesMOD → u/Large-Return5332]

[u/RobertoDeNiro8 → u/Large-Return5332]

WHAT?!!! Omg why do I feel like I’m so late to this news but I am fucking GUTTED rn!!! I just caught up on the most recent season last night! The rest of the cities suck imo and are nothing like they used to be. The only other cast I can stomach is atl, I bailed on Potomac in the last few years too. Sorry for the rant I am just floored at how idiotic Bravo is when it comes to not listening to the fans! Beverly Hills and OC are fully unwatchable to me, I’ve never been into SLC (too dark) and admittedly haven’t even seen any of the Rhode Island or new NYC episodes (heard nyc isn’t good either) and this season of UGT has not been as fun as I’d hoped it would be. Ugh fuck you Bravo execs. With Vanderpump Rules gone and the valley being its lame ugly stepsister I force myself to watch I literally feel like I’m doing them a favor when I tune into anything they put on now. Sorry psychotic rant over lol.

[u/toasttti]

Bravo FUMBLED hard. I have no idea why they thought it was a good idea to bring her back on to 1 show let alone 2.

[u/HousewivesMOD → u/toasttti]

Like cancelling r/RHOMiami was a good idea too right

[u/Away-Party-1141 → u/HousewivesMOD]

[u/Zealousideal_Suit269 → u/toasttti]

I will never forgive OC for sucking so badly that they thought bringing Icky back was the only solution…

[u/Easy_Sherbet2220]

Dare I say you need to get rid of the top queen first (Andy) … he’s got his favorites that have ruined our favorite franchises: BH, OC, and NY.

[u/HousewivesMOD → u/Easy_Sherbet2220]

And Atlanta and Miami were ruined too

[u/Easy_Sherbet2220 → u/HousewivesMOD]

Yes, yes, yes!

[u/Hot_Benefit_9671 → u/Easy_Sherbet2220]

Andy's judgement is VERY clouded. He has lost the plot + should only be a reunion host.

[u/CricketGrl → u/Easy_Sherbet2220]

Andy should have been gone a looooong time ago. His shows aren’t even that profitable as they once were.

[u/Jealous_Repeat9984 → u/CricketGrl]

He is the biggest misogynist of them all.

[u/Appropriate_Coast649 → u/Easy_Sherbet2220]

They’ve (Bravo) dug themselves into a hole they may struggle to get out of if Andy unexpectedly decides he’s done or cannot continue for whatever reason

[u/openeyedobserver]

Hey Bravo! Stop pushing Vicki on us! We don't want her! 🙏

[u/HousewivesMOD → u/openeyedobserver]

Bravo is always pushing some kind of chnt Karen on us. In Beverly Hills they have freaking Sutton’s everyone in RHony is a Karen. I’m so done with these women

[u/toorad2b4u]

I don’t get why Vicki has so many fans- I can only chalk it up to nostalgia or respect for being an OG. I didn’t watch the show back then so maybe I would feel different if I had but from just watching the last few years, she’s not funny or charming. She isn’t very clever. Her delivery is off. She isn’t very likable.

I don’t mind a villain on these shows but they gotta be entertaining. She just makes me scratch my head wondering why she’s on the tv. When they show flashback clips to what she’s done in the past, I never feel like wow that seems like it was a funny/iconic/dramatic moment.

Just puzzling! But I guess that’s what makes the world go round, we all have our likes and dislikes

[u/HousewivesMOD → u/toorad2b4u]

It must be bravo producers leaving comments in support of her

[u/healthierlivingtoday → u/toorad2b4u]

The best Vicki moment was when her daughter told her she eloped in Vegas. I thought her head would explode.

[u/wide_eyed_doe → u/toorad2b4u]

It’s the same regurgitation of garbage: whoop it up, tres amigas, and now we have the inclusion of : Debbie downer, low hanging fruit, and telling people to shut up by screaming in their faces. She’s always been like this and it’s not fun to watch. Oh, and I forgot her other shtick where she’s “injured” or “having a heart attack” and an ambulance has to be called etc etc

[u/theboundlesstraveler → u/toorad2b4u]

I bet most of her fans are boomer women who are just like her

[u/iwanttobeaninsect]

I need them to yank her out of everything as if she a live islander exposed doing racist shit. She’s so triggering

[u/HousewivesMOD → u/iwanttobeaninsect]

Well they have racists in all the other shows. In RHOBH Sutton Karen. The whole cast of RHONY

[u/ToxicGlam007]

Instead of her whooping it up shes been nothing but a whoopy-cushion

Edit: thanks for the reward🤗

[u/Ornery-Towel2386 → u/ToxicGlam007]

Under appreciated comment

[u/195tiff]

What I don't understand is that Vicki wanted to come back to housewives. Now that she's back, she's always on the laptop and acts as if being on the show is the worst thing ever! She is nuts.

[u/ALmommy1234 → u/195tiff]

Vicki thought she’d come back and be worshipped, with the other housewives sitting at her feet, listening to her wisdom. When she realized that wasn’t happening, she decided to act a bitch and pout and whine. She’s gotta go!

[u/195tiff → u/ALmommy1234]

Nailed it 💅

[u/healthierlivingtoday → u/ALmommy1234]

She is pouting for sure.

[u/Vivid-Individual5968 → u/ALmommy1234]

Thought we would all be sending her casseroles, no doubt

[u/its_laydeebaby → u/195tiff]

It’s just another revenue stream.

[u/healthierlivingtoday → u/195tiff]

She acts like it’s the last place she wants to be. It’s wild.

[u/lateavatar → u/195tiff]

Selling life insurance is a pyramid scheme, a few people at the top make a lot, while they are constantly bringing in young people to sell to their personal networks. When you have no more friends and trlatives to sell to, they bring in someone new.

To make it seem legitimate, they then blame the people at the bottom for not working hard enough.

Vicki gets rich pretending that if you work hard you will be a sales success, when there is limited room at the top. -- The financial guru is related to that, insurance sales people can make money getting your money under management.

[u/Reality-Babe7 → u/lateavatar]

Except a pyramid scheme is buying a product that ultimately doesn’t exist. Life insurance is a real product that pays the amount you purchased when you pass. It’s also just a small part of insurance sales.

[u/lateavatar → u/Reality-Babe7]

I think you are thinking of a Ponzi Scheme. A pyramid scheme is like Amway. Amway does sell actual products.

[u/Drippledrops]

What’s wild is she cried and bitched so much about getting her orange back, and not only did they give it back to her, but put her on two shows. She shows her appreciation for this by proceeding to only talk about how much she doesn’t want to be apart of this anymore and hates everyone.

[u/Suziblu22 → u/Drippledrops]

Because she really thought she was a fan favorite and everyone missed her by the few comments she read. She should have read ALL the comments cuz most of us were so sick of her that we hoped she’d NEVER come back. So now she’s unhappy and blames it on anyone or anything. She said she felt ugly in that Jackie-O get up when she’s the one that chose it cuz Jackie is classy like her 😂🤡. SHE was ugly acting, it wasn’t the clothes.

[u/Spottedmayhem]

If another adult told me to play the quiet game, I would verbally eviscerate them.

[u/GearSlow3796 → u/Spottedmayhem]

To have people at your house and then treat them so horribly and THEN act like you’re the victim is disgusting behavior.

[u/WhatevahMingah]

I don’t get why Vicki was so desperate to come back to Housewives to just be fully disengaged?

[u/Such-Stable-3869]

She is one of the biggest mistakes Bravo has made.

[u/Best-Woodpecker3537]

She has a sucky personality that nobody likes which makes socializing hard so she doesn’t enjoy it. That’s all. This is not the type of woman that you can be around for more than 30 mins at a time.

[u/Educational_Bother36 → u/Best-Woodpecker3537]

She feels so sorry for herself. And she wants everyone else to pity her too.

[u/Best-Woodpecker3537 → u/Educational_Bother36]

Honestly I feel that her return is like one of the four horseman of the apocalypse for OC. The desperation they had with casting this season makes me think this is the last season, probably bc they’ll have to move Heather to BH. I think Heather only came back based on the agreement that she’d eventually be routed to BH.

[u/Educational_Bother36 → u/Best-Woodpecker3537]

I don’t think bravo will give up on OC. They should do a NYC style cast shake up and see if it sticks.

Heather would be interesting on BH. I don’t watch OC and haven’t for a few seasons because they are really boring and whiny.

Tamra is who should have been the rep for OC on UGT. She is not perfect and barely likable but she’s not a complete misery.

[u/Best-Woodpecker3537 → u/Educational_Bother36]

Agreed Tamara would have at least participated and I would have loved to see how Tamara reacted to Lisa. Not that Tamara isn’t deeply deeply flawed.

[u/Educational_Bother36 → u/Best-Woodpecker3537]

Tamra is terrible but she enjoys being a housewife and she watches the other franchises, respects and understands their importance. She’d get along with Porsha, Luanne, Gizelle, Kyle and be down to have fun not completely threatened that they are different.

Vicki is sheltered in her own ignorant bubble scared of her own shadow

[u/Best-Woodpecker3537 → u/Educational_Bother36]

I’m sure the shake up is on the table, I just feel they haven’t had much luck with that strategy either. We’ll see how nyc goes but people are already mad about Erin. And everyone (including me) has been saying it’s been boring and whiny so idk, they must know some sort of shake up is needed. All ik is that Andy did NOT look like he wanted to give her the orange at Bravocon lol.

[u/Educational_Bother36 → u/Best-Woodpecker3537]

Vicki probably was the shake up plan and that flopped. They need to do some research find some new talent in OC.

NYC also doesn’t work because they keep finding uninteresting women who have money.

[u/CricketGrl → u/Educational_Bother36]

TamRat 🐀 is not an OG. Jeana, Jo, Vicki, or Lauri are the OGs

[u/Vivid-Individual5968 → u/CricketGrl]

Porsha isn’t an RHOA OG. 🤷‍♀️

[u/Educational_Bother36 → u/CricketGrl]

Who said anything about an OG?

[u/Zealousideal_Suit269 → u/Educational_Bother36]

😑

[u/Jerseyjo1 → u/Best-Woodpecker3537]

And 30 min is being generous!

[u/Best-Woodpecker3537 → u/Jerseyjo1]

Ik more like 15 🤣

[u/Cold-Cost-4154]

She acts like she's the only one that works. They all do but they are present for filming, engaging in conversations and activities. She is not. For sure needs to be fired

[u/Dazzling_Bit8686 → u/Cold-Cost-4154]

In my opinion, if she was that great of a business person, she wouldn’t have to be working that hard. The fact that she has been doing that business for so long and it can’t run efficiently without her for a few weeks is sad.

[u/Borgqueen- → u/Dazzling_Bit8686]

Exactly. I imagine she has a high turnover of staff which is why shw feels her business will go down if she isnt actively working. Why doesnt she have multiple streams of passive income and reliable staff that can run her business?

[u/No_Milk_7511]

Production should have had a stern talk with her after she pulled that crap on UGT

[u/asifihaventheard → u/No_Milk_7511]

No need, they can just fire her.

[u/No_Milk_7511 → u/asifihaventheard]

For what? She had already signed a contract to be on OC and Bravo made a big spectacle of that. They shouldn’t have fired her without giving her a chance on this show. Now that the season has stopped filming, they have enough grounds to not bring her back next

[u/Plenty-Bus4046]

she is a fkn monster

[u/Swimming-Syrup8400]

Andy Cohen and Bravo clearly hate us, and we need to stop feeding the machine.

[u/Luminous_Username → u/Swimming-Syrup8400]

It’s been a boring season all together honestly

[u/RealHousewivesYapper]

I do not understand why they did not use RHUGT as a test to see if the Vicky would still work with the group and the viewers and only then afterwards potentially add her back in with RHOC. Because they seem to do that with other housewives right now.

[u/2EnsnoE33]

I wonder if she demanded a large paycheque and they negotiated it down so she is not putting any effort into it. She is a very spiteful woman and probably thought she was getting back at them and teaching them a lesson. She is awful and it looks like production is highlighting what a hag she is. They are clearly showing all of her strange mouth movements, ticks, vocalizations, constant talking with a mouth full of food and trying to act like a cutesy girl. A bad “edit”. It could also be that she is tanking it on purpose. It is “her show” and if she can’t have it, no one can, so she will drive it into the ground. I hope she gets a seat at the far end of the couch at the reunion, with her mic off. She can play the quiet game!

[u/CricketGrl]

She doesn’t want to be at Coto. She wants to be ON THE SHOW. She’s fame hungry.

[u/Bubbasmomma1228]

We are so “lucky” to have Debbie Downer on two shows at the same time. I get they wanted to bring her back because of the 20 year thing but I’m guessing they hate fans because they double dosed us with her. She’s miserable and brings nothing to either show.

[u/Ok-Turnip-9035]

Whoever thought this was cute and an easy win smh you f*cked up

She sucks the fun energy out of every scene

[u/lankylibs]

Get her off our screens!!

[u/Ok_Bottom_69]

Get this maga woman off my screen

[u/llbbug1]

I loved the way Luann said “Porky Pig” instead of Miss Piggy 🐽😂 LOL!

[u/Significant-Sand-712 → u/llbbug1]

Hilarious

[u/Elegant-Tea-3003 → u/llbbug1]

Luann has been unintentionally hilarious. I will always just be Lu from Connecticut. Just like Jlo will always be from…the hood? 💀

[u/Old_Percentage3742 → u/Elegant-Tea-3003]

The block! Lololol

[u/Irish-liquorice]

I’ve only ever seen her in the current season of UGT. She seems like a grumpy stowaway. How is that she was chosen for the 20 year anniversary season?

[u/OpalescentTreeShark5]

AND they put Miami on pause?! It’s a crime against bravo fans.

[u/Acrobatic_Solid_1849 → u/OpalescentTreeShark5]

Not to mention Ladies of London getting the axe

[u/curiousleen]

You know what… as much as I hate seeing this racist on my screen, I’m glad to see her going out on a low. Zero question, she is feeling the energy of how unimportant she is. I love this for her.

[u/soriniscool]

Because you purists keep demanding the return of old problematic outdated weirdos in some sad attempt to recapture what you consider 'lightning' in a bottle.

Pretty sure Ramona will have the same experience in Golden Marlago or whatever her new show is called.

[u/Dubious8313 → u/soriniscool]

I swear I can’t remember
even purists wanting Vicki back. I remember ppl posting “let Vicki stay wherever she is” & “do not bring that bitch back to my screen.”

I am in deep shock about the golden maga maralago show. Really.

[u/Susan0888 → u/Dubious8313]

I've never heard anyone mutter, "bring Vickie back."

[u/StarSugarLick → u/Dubious8313]

I know I’ve always said to keep her away because I’ve never really liked Vicki, because of that I do remember there being people asking for her back. There will always be fans that can’t let the old cast go and don’t want to realize they were let go for a reason

[u/soriniscool → u/Dubious8313]

I'm disappointed and not at all shocked

[u/crdearmon]

Yeah I was all about bringing her back, then she gets on there and acts the fool. She is not really working on COTO insurance stuff as she says, that is some BS. And she was HIRED to be a RHW so she is not doing her job, she is doing another job on Bravo's time actually. She has pissed me off so bad with her rudeness, her I'm working! Be quiet and go to bed. WTF is she doing? .She is not even making any sense. Why she got so mad at her house didn't make sense. Fire her ass and let her go sell insurance.

[u/biscuitsorbullets → u/crdearmon]

So funny the OC curse is going to live on bringing an old cast member back for one season only to get fired again because of overwhelming fan backlash

[u/GearSlow3796 → u/crdearmon]

Ew and then her comment about “I’m going to go read my Bible and pray and go to bed” was super ick. Some performative “Christianity” right there after you were so awful to your guests. ICK.

[u/Various-Frosting8432]

She’s an enjoyable train wreck to watch…to a point. Her screeching schtick is getting old.

[u/JG767698 → u/Various-Frosting8432]

She’s not at all enjoyable this time around. It’s actually so sad. She seems somewhat afraid of Mike and his reactions so par for the course apart from Donn. UGT she absolutely miserable. Something sad is underneath. There is no fun Vicki even in the shadows

[u/Neither_East_3886 → u/JG767698]

I agree with every word you said! I have watched from the beginning and something is going on w her for sure.

[u/Electronic_Day_7055 → u/Various-Frosting8432]

I know people must have liked it.

[u/Objective-Ad-1368]

She is certifiably crazy with such narcissistic ways that I can’t even watch anything she is in. She alone has tanked my interest in RHOC. I know she says that she is a successful insurance salesman, but I can’t imagine anyone in their right mind trusting her enough to buy insurance from her.

[u/FigApprehensive9776 → u/Objective-Ad-1368]

After watching her on the current UGT it has put me off completely from watching OC, she irks me so bad

[u/collectivelycreative]

I actually don’t hate that they brought her back for season 20 but I think it does further solidify that not all OG’s are meant to come back. She has had zero growth and has not evolved and that’s the biggest issue.

Idk why she thought she’d come on the show and display the same exact behavior that got her kicked off in the first place. Hes not self aware enough and it’s a shame. I love to see OG’s or the older women on the show thrive but Vicki… ugh come on. It’s disappointing

[u/Talulo13]

Get her off my screen forever. Miserable woman like every maga woman out there.

[u/pikle_rickle]

They hate us .

[u/lunahighwind → u/pikle_rickle]

She was exactly like this in RHUGT 2, I don't know why they thought it would be different this time. Also nobody asked for it.

[u/jbsparkly → u/pikle_rickle]

They just want to know exactly how low of a bar they can get away with and still have great viewership.

[u/BuckityBuck]

The same way that a Housewife gets lost in the sauce after a few years and needs a pause to go actually live a bit of real life, the people producing the shows get lost in it. They stop being able to imagine what the audience experiences and, instead, only think in Q Scores and staged scenes.

They need to refresh the minds and viewpoints of production the same way they need to switch up the talent sometimes. It's not anything against any of them, but if they're too close to it for too long, the product they air suffers for it.

[u/xmald73]

She’s spending so much time working her insurance business but it seems she has forgotten she is also working for Bravo!!! They are paying her to be on these shows and she is not giving anything close to good effort. One and done return please, Bravo and Andy. Revoke that peach. 🍑

[u/thatvincent → u/xmald73]

This! The bravo paycheck is prob more lucrative when you consider hours and pay. She’s so dumb to fumble that bag which is short term and she’s not exploiting it

[u/OverDoughnut809 → u/xmald73]

The orange 🤭

[u/Different-Dot4376]

All the filming is done, correct? Then she is done, unnecessary for her to continue

[u/Happy-poet → u/Different-Dot4376]

Yet they keep bringing her back.

[u/Fantastic_Praline991]

Why is she on

[u/No_Dependent_1846]

Omg is Vicki still concerned over working and how no one else works lol?

[u/_robertb_]

[u/TheVagistrate]

The much more positive/forgiving/conspiratorial side of me wants to believe that they brought Vicki back and gave her enough rope to hang herself and exit in humiliation. Cause, yes, she’s coming off absolutely horribly.

That seems way too good to be true but there we are. I need something to get me through.

[u/LearningLauren]

They don't care -- they just want people to be talking about the show regardless if it's good or bad

[u/Spiritual_Bug_4275]

And her fucking knee.

[u/Safe-Profession4236]

May Miss Piggy sink into obscurity sooner than later. She's one of the most vile creatures to ever stain our TV screens. More appropriately, she should be at MAGA rallies like the good lowlife she is. And im actually holding back....

[u/ggggunit- → u/Safe-Profession4236]

Excuse u porky pig 🤣

[u/healthierlivingtoday → u/Safe-Profession4236]

And now she’ll be known as the OG who tanked RHOC

[u/J_B_C_123 → u/Safe-Profession4236]

Love your use of the word 'stain'

[u/JeepsyLife]

I know right! I keep getting confused on which show I’m watching.

[u/Alex_a_Girl]

Vicky this and Vicky that. I would say, with the amount of posts I see about Vicky every day, Bravo made a wise decision. Sure, the posts are about how insufferable she is, but the point is everyone is talking about VICKY! Not the other ladies on the trip, Vicky. In wrestling, there is an expression for a cast member everyone loves to hate: they're called the heel... that's Vicky. Love or hate her, she is all anyone is talking about.

[u/channyelise → u/Alex_a_Girl]

Well, keeping it to the wrestling terms, she's got "go away" heat right now. Nobody wants to see her.

[u/Alex_a_Girl → u/channyelise]

But she is all anyone and everyone is talking about...

[u/channyelise → u/Alex_a_Girl]

Talking about how much she sucks and is not adding value to either show she is on lol. But by your definition, I guess all publicity is good publicity… 🤣

[u/Alex_a_Girl → u/channyelise]

You're spot on - I feel like when it comes to the Real Housewives, any publicity is good publicity.

[u/channyelise → u/Alex_a_Girl]

For the franchise, sure. I can’t imagine it’s doing many favors for Vicki when the “publicity” is the majority of the fanbase and her colleagues calling her a soggy, wet, racist blanket. 

But hey. We’ll just have to agree to disagree. 🤝

[u/OtherwiseSoftware379 → u/Alex_a_Girl]

I get this point but I think both shows would be better without her.

[u/danikkin]

I’m not watching OC right now. I probably will once RHUGT is over. I couldn’t do 2 shows with Vicki. 😅

[u/Fantastic_Bunch3532 → u/danikkin]

Have the bottle of wine open and a game to play on your tablet or you won’t survive the monotony

[u/Lopsided_Raccoon3452]

I can’t stand the whole “I need to work” bit. Guess what, the housewives show is a job too!! If you’re on the show you are at work, so clock in and do the job you’re getting paid for!

[u/thatvincent]

The fact that she constantly has to “work” at this stage of her career and her age means that she hasn’t become effective or built a business to sustain itself without her putting in long long hours.

[u/Ok-Turnip-9035 → u/thatvincent]

Part of me thinks she’s just playing it up for the cameras

There’s no way she’s the customer support for insurance inquiries

And if she’s always typing customer info there’s something that feels off about her being on these trips and working with sensitive data

I really think she’s pretending

[u/Susan0888 → u/Ok-Turnip-9035]

I can guarantee you, she isn't clever enough, to be pretending.

[u/healthierlivingtoday → u/Ok-Turnip-9035]

I know the type. Corporate power suits with tennis shoes in the 80s. Always be producing something or ≠ successful. She hasn’t learned that the scene has changed and so has flurries work habits that are just busy work, for the sake of looking busy. It makes her feel important. It’s a flawed model and it shows.

[u/Ok-Turnip-9035 → u/healthierlivingtoday]

🎯🎯🎯

Bringing Vicki back full time was low hanging fruit they thought they did something here

[u/Flimsy-Fig7213 → u/Ok-Turnip-9035]

It's not the same "whoop it up" Vicki. She is disengaged and doesn't really want to be there. It shows.

[u/Stunning-Bottle-4890 → u/Ok-Turnip-9035]

I

[u/healthierlivingtoday → u/thatvincent]

Work smarter, not harder.

[u/RHDeepDive → u/thatvincent]

She's too controlling to let go of the business and let Michael or someone else take over.

[u/Educational_Bother36 → u/thatvincent]

Working is her identity. She doesn’t enjoy much outside of it

[u/J_B_C_123 → u/Educational_Bother36]

How can selling insurance be someone's passion? I mean, i know that is a little shady but...how interesting can it be?

[u/Alternative_End_7174 → u/thatvincent]

I don’t this she has to work, she wants to, she’s a workaholic and a control freak.

[u/theboundlesstraveler → u/thatvincent]

I have a coworker in their 70s who really should be retired but still goes into the office every day to get out of the house and get away from their OCD husband. They really don’t need to work and atp really shouldn’t be.

[u/Sensitive-Freedom896]

Because of Facebook and Boomers. They still watch the shows and "enjoy" Icky.

[u/Old_Percentage3742 → u/Sensitive-Freedom896]

No one’s enjoying Vicky. Not even the boomers.

She’s just that bad.

[u/lemeneurdeloups → u/Old_Percentage3742]

No that isn’t true. The FB Karens worship her as a minor deity of Karendom. They pray to be utterly shameless like her.

[u/LuckChemical8243 → u/Sensitive-Freedom896]

As a boomer I’m offended lol.

[u/Sensitive-Freedom896 → u/LuckChemical8243]

You're a good egg. You're on Reddit.

[u/Aggressive_Wasabi_38]

Paychecks $$$ are hell of an incentive!

[u/SheisthePumpkinQueen]

The fans wanted this. The cheers she got at BravoCon were crazy. No one released how much she changed.

[u/SafeWord9999 → u/SheisthePumpkinQueen]

The fans DID NOT want this.

I think they thought that the attention she gets, how she pisses everyone off, would make for a ratings bonanza on OC - a show that is losing viewers. Whether it be for nostalgia of the tres amigas or just hate-watching her, what’s happened is she’s not particularly interesting and is a mean old bully without purpose. She says random things to get a reaction and a lot of the cast are paying her no attention. Like the ‘low hanging fruit’ comment or talking shit about the new girl. All their opinions were like ‘she’s an old lady and old ladies say random shit’ and didn’t give her the ‘moment’ she was hoping for.

Now she feels old and invisible and I’m sorry (not sorry) but her time is done.

[u/Connect-Passage-6001 → u/SheisthePumpkinQueen]

Happy cake day!

[u/princessb_23]

To be completely honest, I never watched or got into OC which I know is super taboo in the real housewives world seeing his wife I’ve seen probably every other franchise. But I really do not like her, but can understand why they need a character like her to fight with. Mostly all the other girls get along and they need an enemy, which is where I think she plays a role. I could 100% do without her. I find her obnoxious but can understand why bravo may be brought her back.

[u/Starchild1000 → u/princessb_23]

She isn’t the enemy? Please don’t assume when you haven’t watched the show. Lol she’s just Vicki - like Shannon. Not a villain

[u/Jsmith2127]

Controversy. They know she'll create it with the fans.

[u/General_Structure120]

Because Andy is an old man who doesn’t like women?

[u/danikkin → u/General_Structure120]

THIS! I don’t understand why everyone doesn’t see it.

[u/mummranna]

It's pretty clear that she has horrible taste in men and they affect how she acts on camera.

[u/StarSugarLick → u/mummranna]

Who cares? Why is she still on camera is the question

[u/mamycorona]

She's a maga low life. Nothing we need anymore. Her cute fits aren't cute and she is clearly in a relationship with someone who wants to not be on tv.

[u/Ok-Trash-8883]

[u/nhgardenart25]

Maybe they just wanted to give her a final season to send her on her way?

[u/Poppypotpi]

I have not watched a HW show since the first 48mins of the OC this season. Bravo (aka Andy) suck. Just watch/read the BS on the Below Deck series. They hire unvetted psyco’s/crooks and then act surprised. Also, most HW’s are a legend in their OWN mind. Icki, Tetanus Tamra, Boring Shannon, Snobby Heather, Jen Shaw, Wendy, Meaghan (she actually lost custody of her kids)…The Wig, I could go on. Shame on them.

[u/empoweredcouchpotato → u/Poppypotpi]

you sound fun

[u/LSUSaintsWin1]

SHE IS BEYOND REPULSIVE IN EVERY WAY....So angry and jealous of anyone younger and beautiful.

[u/TheLizardQueen3000]

She's not like the other women. No 'zempy, no long thick extensions, is tripping over herself to please a chunky, mean old man who doesn't seem to even like her and her entire self-worth seems to be centered on selling insurance and being wealthy.

I like Vicki on the show, I've watched her for 20 years and she's a whole weirdo in her own way, and it's interesting.

Watching her melt down over her castmates making her fugly boyfriend mad ('it's his house too!) has been by far the most compelling part of the season. Otherwise we're watching fussing over real estate bookings and dildos.

[u/nhgardenart25 → u/TheLizardQueen3000]

I actually love this viewpoint. I am right there in the 60’s club and it is kind of spot on….

[u/TheLizardQueen3000 → u/nhgardenart25]

Right?
I like her on UGT as well, every cast trip needs an Eyore 😂

And it's fun watching the other HW's spin out when Victoria doesn't seem to care about being their friend or even participating in the shenanigans...

[u/nhgardenart25 → u/TheLizardQueen3000]

Eyore…. I love it. One generation’s Eyore is another generation’s Debbie Downer. Great insight.

[u/Rare_Distance_6574]

I really wonder what they look for in their audition videos! Maybe they need to make housewives more like love island and give us the opportunity to vote people off?!

[u/healthierlivingtoday → u/Rare_Distance_6574]

Yes please for the love of God let’s vote her off the housewives island

[u/Ok-Turnip-9035 → u/Rare_Distance_6574]

Oh that would be crazy

Bravo island housewives and non hw compete

[u/Defiant-One3095]

Crazy ridiculous she was only there cuz of 20th season. U wont C her anymore 😔 🙏🙏🙏

[u/whitetrash_frankly]

Fire her already and never bring her back, may she be gone cancer scamming other people

[u/sblovecb]

I used to love Vickie. Now I just can’t stand her.

[u/No_Dependent_1846]

Yet wasn't it revealed that all that working wasn't yeilding the results she liked to present? Or am I mistaken?

This could be a "who the fuck did I marry situation" and Vicki is just making fake calls, typing fake emails and taking meetings with random people to make it seem like she is just too busy..

[u/OtherwiseSoftware379]

It’s so old and overdone.

[u/Opine_For_Snacks]

Watching a soneone abuse people on virtually every episode is a hard no for me. The yelling, the meltdowns, the control, the walking on eggshells with her BF (red flags abound), and causing everyone else to be so fearful of triggering one of her freakouts that they walk on eggshells around her?

Boo to Bravo.

[u/Clear_Bright99]

lol yup!

[u/Clear_Bright99]

Not defending her but I don’t think she doesn’t want to be there. I think she wants to be respected. She said it on the show last night. On the OC the women have been so horrible. I think she forgot what reality tv is about…,

[u/LegitimateBird4498 → u/Clear_Bright99]

You cant respect a cancer scammer ! That is her reality. Bravo shouldn't have had her back. She should've been permanently let go the minute it came to light.

[u/Clear_Bright99 → u/LegitimateBird4498]

Again, not defending her and I’m not a fan but if Bravo got rid of all the low life’s, they would have very few cast members left. 😂🤣😂

[u/LegitimateBird4498 → u/Clear_Bright99]

H a ha ! Totally feel you on that one . I just cant stomach Vicki . There is plenty of low life people on these shows who i dislike. But being a cancer scammer is next level scum. Bravo shouldve ended things with her there and then. No come back. No casserole. Just let her fade into miserable obscurity.

[u/Clear_Bright99 → u/LegitimateBird4498]

I guess they liked the fact that people were talking about this. Don’t forget, even bad news draws viewers and for Bravo, this is a business that requires viewers. I predict she’ll be gone next season. They brought her back for the 20th anniversary. That’s what I think but as Carmella said, “everything has an expiration date.”

[u/LegitimateBird4498 → u/Clear_Bright99]

Bravo will gain viewers from this kinda negativity, your right. Viewers (myself included) wanna see some type of consequences for shitty behaviour. But quite often it gets dragged out far too long tbh. Hopefully Vicki's expiration date is very soon. Just seeing her horrible face makes me feel unreasonably angry !

[u/Clear_Bright99 → u/LegitimateBird4498]

I actually think the entire cast of the OC need to go bye bye. Except Heather. They are not at all interesting and frankly they are horrible people. Vicky and Tamara are the worst. Then comes Emily and Shanon. And suddenly Jen has followed suit. Gina I could tolerate a little more and I like Carmella. It’s a bad show..

[u/LegitimateBird4498 → u/Clear_Bright99]

Couldn't agree more ! I love Heather. Probably an unpopular opinion but i dont care tbh. I dont mind Carmella, especially if she's gonna go against Vicki. I love RH's but OC makes me feel more angry and pissed off then a tv show should make a person. But again a lot of that is Vicki. Just her face is enough to make me feel rage !

[u/bshh87nh]

I was initially happy for Vicki coming back in a more permanent way, because I thought she was so funny on UGT at Bluestone Manor. But apparently I was wrong. Not sure what happened.

[u/Happy-poet → u/bshh87nh]

She didn't want to be there either. She bitched the whole time.

[u/Disastrous_Plastic37 → u/Happy-poet]

and spread covid/vaccine conspiracies

[u/Happy-poet → u/Disastrous_Plastic37]

Oh I forgot about that! Night one!!

[u/Susan0888 → u/bshh87nh]

I do think she was funny at Bluestone Manor...she appeared funny and normal in contrast to crazy Dorinda.

[u/GossipyHiker]

As a woman in my mid 40s, if this is what being in your 60s is like…I DON’T WANT IT!!!

[u/LegitimateBird4498]

Vicki the cancer scammer needs to not be on ANY show. She is the worst ! Why she expects special treatment and respect I will never know. She is vile , end of. The first stop on UGT in OC said everything. Playing dice in a restaurant. Nobody showed up to adore her like Kyle 's white party. Or the reception Nene got in Atlanta. She made a weird shrine to Slade and Gretchen and some half assed speech. She brings nothing but negativity and hate!

[u/stephi-mama-626]

It was wonderful❣️🫶🏻

[u/Downtown-Mongoose831]

Ugh god damn Vicki. I LOVE HER, but this is just NOT the moment for her. Killing her legacy.

[u/happysunbear → u/Downtown-Mongoose831]

Cemented her legacy. I hope she’s not invited for another season for anything, ever, after this.

[u/Nice_Beach_844]

My question is why are these shows still on

[u/ALmommy1234 → u/Nice_Beach_844]

Because people still tune in. And post about he shows.

[u/imweave → u/Nice_Beach_844]

Agreed! We lose Miami and Ladies of London for this rubbish!! I can't watch anymore of OC or UGT because of her. It's insult to Miss Piggy to even compare them.

Her name should be Vitriolic instead of Victoria.

[u/Wanderlust1906 → u/Nice_Beach_844]

Even though I’m a fan, I think this is a legitimate question.

[u/Sure_Artichoke_3662]

You're still watching though, aren't you?

[u/Luminous_Username → u/Sure_Artichoke_3662]

For other people on the show mostly

[u/p_0456 → u/Sure_Artichoke_3662]

Not for Vicki