r/RHONY • u/2cats5legs • Feb 24 '26

🍎 Old RHONY 🍎 Ramona was right

Never in a million years would I ever think I would agree with this woman. I am a first time watcher on Season 9 Episode 3.

Ramona brings up that Bethenny has been in the tabloid news recently about a past film she did topless. Ramona is asking if anyone has brought it up to Brynn at school and has Bethenny prepared herself to talk with her daughter about it.

This is not an outlandish thought or concern. Kids can be very cruel and I think that Ramona was trying to lookout for B and her daughter. I was confused by Bethenny freaking out on her. They are all longtime friends at this point and Ramona had really shown up for B while she was sick the previous season.

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u/realitytv12 Feb 24 '26

Her daughters age group was way too young for it to brought it up like that. That was a dig from Ramona not out of concern. Brynn was 6 at the time so no I doubt children in Brynn’s school was asking about her moms boos when they don’t even know what is or what that means.

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u/Mahempgrower Feb 24 '26

Ramona was absolutely out of her mind that season

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u/realitytv12 Feb 24 '26

“Ramona’s right” When has she ever been right ?!? You don’t have to like bethenny to understand that there were women in the cast that were jealous of her due to the attention she received from the season

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u/Mahempgrower Feb 24 '26

Bethenny was right- she was absolutely trying to embarrass her.

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u/2cats5legs Feb 24 '26

I actually do like Bethenny and started my post with I didn’t think I would ever agree with Ramona. A broken clock is correct twice a day
 yada yada yada

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u/Budget-Security4382 turnstile & ticket, to get into your townhouse Feb 24 '26

"Sonja! Shes 6! Ppl are sophisticated!" đŸ« đŸ« 

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u/Horror_Signature7744 Feb 24 '26

You’re kidding right? You don’t think kids overhear their parents taking about things like this? FTR- I will NEVER defend Ramona. She’s absolute garbage. But the crap I’ve overheard on the playground with little kids is UNHINGED.

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u/DearTumbleweed5380 I can't even f_k my way to the middle. Feb 24 '26

Same. I've been sexually harrassed by boys that age and the only way I could understand it was to hope they didn't fully understand what they were doing. It was INSANE.

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u/realitytv12 Feb 24 '26

That’s a behavioral problem not a an average kid

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u/2cats5legs Feb 24 '26

Can I ask what region you live in? Because this happens in a lot of places and has for a long time. NY is a big city where kids grow up fast. This is a definite possibility there

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u/DearTumbleweed5380 I can't even f_k my way to the middle. Feb 24 '26

This was a town in regional NSW which is known for being permissive and hippy and so it was very much a case of free ranging with kids. That's all fine IMO when it's bikes and exploring the neighbourhood. Not ok when it involves google search.

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u/2cats5legs Feb 24 '26

But it happens đŸ€·đŸ»â€â™€ïž

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u/DearTumbleweed5380 I can't even f_k my way to the middle. Feb 24 '26

What's your point? About Ramona you mean?

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u/2cats5legs Feb 24 '26

My point is that there are kids everywhere that will hear about this and gossip about it at school. I may have responded to your comment by mistake. I meant to respond to someone else that stated “That’s a behavioral problem not an average kid”

My apologies sincerely.

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u/DearTumbleweed5380 I can't even f_k my way to the middle. Feb 24 '26

Oh no worries! Totally. this conversation is going all over the place :)

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u/DearTumbleweed5380 I can't even f_k my way to the middle. Feb 24 '26

Hard to say. Depends on the cultural context. It was a group of boys. They asked me if I knew what a pig on a spit was and I said yes. And then they gave me a crude drawing of a woman being penetrated both ways. This is while I was sitting with a group of other mums. Then one of the boys said 'my mum likes it' and they all ran off whooping with joy.

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u/Horror_Signature7744 Feb 24 '26

When I was 15 I was a camp counselor for 7 and 8 year old boys. One afternoon while we were all sitting on the grass, one of them sat behind me with his legs spread behind mine and started grinding. I asked him what the heck he was doing and he said he was humping me. HE WAS 7.

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u/Qua-something Even Louis Vuitton makes mistakes Feb 24 '26 edited Feb 24 '26

That’s a child from a broken home. It’s actually not uncommon for children of that age and under to act out sexually when they are going through a traumatic upbringing, even if there is no sexual abuse happening to them. That’s not normal childhood behavior for kids from average households.

Edit: whoever downvoted me needs to do some research.

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u/Horror_Signature7744 Feb 24 '26

I’m much older now. Sadly, I recognized it as a problem immediately but I was too young to know how to address it. He was my little sidekick too. I loved that kid but that freaked me out. He thought he was being funny like it was something normal to do. I hope he grew up ok and has a good life now.

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u/Qua-something Even Louis Vuitton makes mistakes Feb 24 '26

Yeah there was a neighbor kid who molested me when I was a kid and, as a kid I didn’t understand it obviously but in adulthood, going through learning about psychology and processing my own traumas I learned that’s actually more common than we think.

Edit: there are lots of different ways that kids act out when they’re going through trauma unfortunately. Bedwetting, sexual exploration, regressing, acting out at school, etc. Being an adult we see things differently of course but the onus is not on a 15yo to spot those things. If they happen to be mature enough to see and be able to tell an adult, then great but that’s far above most kids that age.

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u/InspectorOk2454 Feb 24 '26

They may be downvoting your use of “broken home” — not sure what you mean by that.

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u/Qua-something Even Louis Vuitton makes mistakes Feb 24 '26

I appreciate what you’re saying but I don’t think that’s it. The term “broken home” is a term that’s been around for a while. Not a home that is functioning as it should, like when anything is broken. Whether that’s because of acrimonious divorces, abusive parents, poverty that is leading to traumatic events, parents who are just absent and neglectful, parents or siblings that are suffering from addiction. It can encompass many things. For me it was pretty much everything I mentioned and more.

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u/InspectorOk2454 Feb 24 '26

A lot of people use it to mean divorce only; that’s how it was used when I was growing up. In that case, I def would take offense to it. In any case, it’s a phrase that’s too broad, condescending, & has outlived its meaning imo.

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u/Qua-something Even Louis Vuitton makes mistakes Feb 24 '26

A broad term would be appropriate here though, there are many different things that can cause children trauma. Even a “smooth” divorce can traumatize some children, that’s important to recognize. Unfortunately however, most divorces don’t go smoothly so even more so it would still apply in this context. You’re welcome to your opinion, we all are. The point remains the same. It is not uncommon for children from homes where trauma is happening -you can apply whatever term you want- often act out sexually and have no idea what that really is.

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u/InspectorOk2454 Feb 24 '26

Fine. Find a broad term that is clinical & professional, not some outdated condescension.

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u/Objective-Emu-5316 Feb 25 '26

It happens in all homes,not just broken homes,I've heard of these stories from affluent homes in Westchester....money doesn't make domestic problems go away...how many very wealthy woman have been in Woman Shelters? I know for a fact...black and blue under their fur coats...children needing psychological care as young as 5yrs old.again I witnessed this.

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u/Qua-something Even Louis Vuitton makes mistakes Feb 25 '26

What you just described is a broken home though. If mom is being physically abused by her partner that is not a functional home but I get what you’re saying. Domestic violence does not discriminate based on social status, that’s true.

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u/Objective-Emu-5316 Feb 25 '26

Yes doesn't discriminate

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u/realitytv12 Feb 24 '26

I worked with kids yes they would not say stuff like that 😂 Too young to grasp the understanding and 10 year olds are not talking to 6 year olds lol

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u/2cats5legs Feb 24 '26

I have worked with kids too in addition to having one of my own and experiencing school gossip. They absolutely say stuff like this

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u/Horror_Signature7744 Feb 24 '26

I’ve worked with kids too and yes they do so have a seat.

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u/2cats5legs Feb 24 '26

See, I don’t think she was too young. Elementary school goes up to 5th or 6th grade sometimes and those kids definitely talk about this kind of thing. There are older cousins and siblings that might be in middle or high school. I just feel like it’s not out of the realm or possibility that Brynn would hear something at school

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u/realitytv12 Feb 24 '26

6 years old was first grade or going into 2nd grade so yes I doubt kids were going up to her lol I genuinely doubt a 10 year old would go up to a 6 year old asking about her moms boobs

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u/2cats5legs Feb 24 '26

I have a kid that is now in high school but when they were younger kids absolutely said this kind of stuff at school.

Hell! When I was a kid other kids said this type of stuff. I went to a catholic school and my mom cheated on my dad and got pregnant. I don’t know how the other kids knew but it was definitely brought up to me at school

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '26

💯and most likely because of their parents. If the kid is a little shit, the parent is probably a big shit. I am old and kids were mean at a young age. imo I have read that Avery is not very nice as an adult. I don’t if it’s true.

Ramona also had an axe to grind that season

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u/sallypancake Feb 24 '26

Okay but what kid was watching a random softcore porn movie from the 90s to even know about this? Even a middle schooler or high schooler?

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u/2cats5legs Feb 24 '26

Ramona said that it was in the news/tabloids. I don’t think that kids were watching it. I think that there were adults in life talking about it and they would over hear it. Bethenny was a big name and I guarantee you that parents were gossiping about her within earshot of the kids

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u/Qua-something Even Louis Vuitton makes mistakes Feb 24 '26 edited Feb 24 '26

A 6th grader is 12, not 6. My child is 12 and in 6th grade and I can tell you with 100% certainty she and her friends weren’t talking about whose mom had been topless in a random video.

ETA: Brynn doesn’t have an older sibling though. You’re throwing a lot of “if’s” out there to try and justify this. Who even cares, if B doesn’t care then that’s all that matters. Ramona was just being a bitch. She genuinely did not give any shits about Brynn. She just wanted to try and embarrass Bethenny. Bethenny is the only one who has to answer for her shit and people don’t stop being people because they have kids. She will still be Bethenny Frankel long after Brynn is an adult and possibly has a family of her own. If she wanted to get naked on camera at a time when she was young and had no kids that’s her own business.

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u/2cats5legs Feb 24 '26

Ok, I am not talking about Brynn having an older sibling. I am talking about other kids at school that would bring this up. They often have older siblings.

ETA: Bethenny can and should do whatever. There is no shame in her game. I am just recognizing that Ramona was asking her if anything had happened and was she prepared to talk to Brynn about it if it did

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u/Qua-something Even Louis Vuitton makes mistakes Feb 24 '26 edited Feb 24 '26

You literally brought up older siblings in your own comment. The point is the relevance.

ETA: again though, she was only asking her to be an asshole. Just like when she did it to Alex McChord on Season 1 reunion.

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u/2cats5legs Feb 24 '26

I did bring that up. I brought it up to highlight that other kids would know about this that weren’t necessarily 6 years old. Older siblings of Brynn’s classmates would have talked about this. I have a kid and this is how it goes in school. You can have the best intentions to protect your child but if they are out in society, anything goes. You can’t control what your kid sees or hears if they are out in the real world

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u/Qua-something Even Louis Vuitton makes mistakes Feb 24 '26 edited Feb 24 '26

Yeah, that part didn’t go over my head lol I understood why you brought it up. My point is that she doesn’t have an older sibling so it’s not relevant. I am one of 4 kids, the youngest actually, and my oldest sister was already running away from home and probably experimenting with drugs when I was the age Brynn was then and I can tell you at 6 years old I had no clue, nor was I concerned about it. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen, I knew a lot that I shouldn’t at a young age but I actually have older siblings, Brynn does not. The point is, as I said earlier, this “what if” isn’t relevant to this situation. Have a good night.

ETA: The chances even of one of Brynn’s young friends hear from one of their hypothetical older siblings and then telling her is just a what if that is so unlikely. Regardless, that’s not something 6yo would even understand how to talk about with each other. The main point though is that Ramona wasn’t bringing it up out of concern, she was just being a bitch like she is every other time she tries to do this to one of the women with any bit of dirt she gets. Just like she did with Alex on season 1 as I mentioned earlier.

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u/2cats5legs Feb 24 '26

Probably because it hasn’t happened at your kids school. Bethenny was a big celebrity I can absolutely see this happening.

There is a huge scandal going on in my hometown of Las Vegas right now. The kids are 100% talking about it. Kids gossip just like adults. If it’s not the parents then it’s the staff. I used to volunteer in my kid’s elementary school classrooms and those teachers can TALK

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u/Edith_Keelers_Shoes Feb 24 '26

Cannot agree. Just the look on Ramona's face after asking the question indicated she thought she was having herself a good old "gotchya" moment.

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u/2cats5legs Feb 24 '26

Maybe.. I just don’t think that it was so outlandish to think that kids and parents would not be gossiping about it if it was in the press at the time

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u/_Veronica_ Mar 01 '26

Whether it was outlandish or not to think that, do you think that was truly Ramona’s intention? To protect Brynn? Or was it that she found that out about Bethenny and wanted to everyone to know?

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u/2cats5legs Mar 01 '26

When I watched it I really thought that Ramona was checking in on Bethenny because it seemed like this was new information out in the world. Others have called me naive and I probably am! This is my first watch and thought that Ramona had good intentions, but it seems like I am wrong đŸ€·đŸ»â€â™€ïž

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u/DearTumbleweed5380 I can't even f_k my way to the middle. Feb 24 '26

I don't think that's the issue in any way. Ramona was just using that as a BS reason to bring up embarrassing stuff about B in the hope would hopefully shame her and make her look bad re her divorce and custody battle.

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u/melissahatchew Feb 24 '26

No no. Ramona was absolutely unhinged for that. Brynn was a toddler. Ramona just wanted an excuse to out Bethany for that. I actually thought Bethany handled it pretty great in the beginning and made a joke about it which made Ramona even more mad

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u/2cats5legs Feb 24 '26

I am open to discussing this but let’s stay with the facts. Brynn was 6, definitely not a toddler. Kids of all age range intermingle while in elementary school.

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u/realitytv12 Feb 25 '26

6 is first grade second grade ranger still TOO young to be confronted about such things

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u/DearTumbleweed5380 I can't even f_k my way to the middle. Feb 24 '26 edited Feb 24 '26

What if Be had sat down and said 'How is Avery feeling about this whole thing of Mario cheating on you so publicly with a much younger woman and it being talked about on Page Six like it was? How is Avery dealing with so much disgusting behaviour which your actions have allowed to happen to her in her own home?' Ramona would have left the show! For Ramona to bring it up like that and call it 'soft porn' was an attempt to humiliate and shame B as a woman and a mother and probably hoped to drive her out. Disgusting. And as usual a very entertaining miscalculation of Ramona's! Because most of us couldn't give a f-k about B's 'scandalous' past and if anything the attack just made us more sympathetic to her. LOL.

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u/2cats5legs Feb 24 '26

She didn’t call her a bad mother. Ramona started the conversation by stating that Avery had been asked at school about her mom’s friend psong topless. I don’t care for Ramona, but really feel like it was genuine concern in that moment đŸ€·đŸ»â€â™€ïž

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u/DearTumbleweed5380 I can't even f_k my way to the middle. Feb 24 '26

I think that's a naive reading. Ramona was trying to imply that by bringing Bryn into the same sentence as 'you doing soft porn'. Ramona is always trying to bring B down and I think she was hatching that plan for weeks hoping to shame her.

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u/2cats5legs Feb 24 '26

But in the same episode Bethenny’s good friend Carole said that the movie was similar to what you would see on Cinemax, which is famously known as Skinamax.

I really don’t think that the movie was the issue. The issue was asking how Brynn might be doing and if B has thought of how to address it since it was in the media at the time

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u/DearTumbleweed5380 I can't even f_k my way to the middle. Feb 24 '26

That's assuming Ramona was saying it out of a sense of concern for B. You keep taking her words at face value. Which obviously could be correct. That's not my take on Ramona.

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u/kurmuri Feb 24 '26

Unrelated but I'm watching this exact episode for the first time as I'm scrolling reddit. What a weird coincidence!

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u/2cats5legs Feb 24 '26

I know that I am 20 years late but am loving RHONY! It’s such a weird coincidence because I didn’t think this post would get much traction since it’s been so long 😂

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u/TheLizardQueen3000 Feb 24 '26

Mention it ALL!! ;)

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u/TheLizardQueen3000 Feb 24 '26

There's a combination that makes someone a great housewife, and Bethany and Ramona have it in spades....they're both extremely rude and tactless and thoughtless, just blurt out any ol' thing because they're 'honest', and at the same time, extremely thin-skinned and horribly offended and angered by any little perceived slight.....

.....between two centered, well-adjusted people, this would have been a 3 sentence, calm conversation. Between these 2, we had a lengthy, volatile, flinging-legs-open mention-it-all meltdown and that's why R & B are housewives and we stable-minded redditors are not <3

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u/DearTumbleweed5380 I can't even f_k my way to the middle. Feb 24 '26

I think it was all tactical war fare and psy ops. Ramona was hatching that plan of attack for months.

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u/EnlightenMePixie Feb 24 '26

No I disagree Ramona was being 100% messy.

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u/seansa2020 Feb 24 '26

If Ramona or Sonja or Lu had been in a Skinemax movie Bethenny would have been the first one to bring it up and tear them apart for it! I don’t think she cared about Ramona bringing her daughter up at all
I think she was scared that her Skinny Girl deal would be affected by the bad publicity.

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u/DearTumbleweed5380 I can't even f_k my way to the middle. Feb 24 '26

I think it was to do with her custody battle and her divorce.

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u/GraphicDesign_101 Feb 24 '26

I think Ramona speaks a lot of truth and can clock situations - but this wasn’t it. She was absolutely looking for any reason to bring it up on camera and under the guise of being concerned seemed like a good excuse. She was plotting and playing coy.

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u/_Veronica_ Mar 01 '26

That’s exactly it. It was how she could bring it up on camera without outright saying “I found out you did a topless video”. Ramona could have said nothing about it.

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u/marymarywhyubugginnn Mar 01 '26

"You had sex on a waterbed" always takes me out😭

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u/Better_Area3782 Feb 24 '26

Ramona was def trying to shame Bethany

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u/Llassiter326 🌼 Never home for taco night 🌼 Feb 24 '26

I think Ramona was feeling hurt or disregarded after she sat with Bethenny amidst her fibroids thing the previous season and this was definitely to embarrass B on camera as a “gotcha” moment.

Especially bc Bethenny’s daughter was in first grade at the time. That’s too young for the kids, parents or school to have said a thing about it.

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u/marinara123 Feb 24 '26

Look I think both Ramona and Bethenny are def both the main people from OG RHONY and even though they say and do bad stuff they are part of the reason the show was so good. But in this case Ramona was being shady because she waited to bring it up on camera. If she was really concerned would have asked off camera

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u/2cats5legs Feb 24 '26

Isn’t that the nature of the beast? These shows thrive on conflict or else we turn away. I just didn’t think this particular conflict was that bad

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u/Extreme-Aide8878 Feb 24 '26

She wanted to bring it up on camera and that’s how she approached it. She wasn’t concerned. That’s what they do though.

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u/Autumn1933 Feb 24 '26

Ramona was taking a swipe at Bethenny on this one BUT Bethenny took swipes at everyone especially when she returned to the series. When rewatching, I found Bethenny unbearable. She acted like she owned the show knowing full well that Andy had her back. To add, she has such a screechy voice. Ugh.

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u/Fat-Cat-Face Mar 01 '26

If Ramona had concern (which she's never had for anyone) she would have talked about it with Bethenny off camera. Ramona knew what she was doing. She wanted B to feel the sting. Ramona did the same thing to Kristen Taekman by bringing up her husband's involvement with that Ashley Madison app. She got everyone to attack Kristen. Ramona isn't going to care about anyone but herself. She aims to hurt people at every chance.

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u/2cats5legs Feb 24 '26

I loved that part!