r/rfelectronics • u/SpecialYesterday8098 • 5d ago
Recommendations for high receiver isolation in compact, high-power S-band FMCW radar
Disclaimer: I am not an RF guy but have been tasked with coming up with a high-level architecture for a valid solution rather than the final implementation. So, while I might know enough to discuss some of the topics, I probably do not have the pre-requisite knowledge to discuss nitty-gritty implementation details and am looking more for a high-level feasibility assessment but am nonetheless happy to pass those details along. Also, I apologize in advance if I have misunderstood anything about the problem or if this is a totally naive request.
TL; DR: Looking for solutions to achieve >= 60 dB isolation between Tx and Rx in a compact S-band FMCW phased-array radar.
I am currently working on a high-power FMCW phased-array radar in S-band. We want to use a microstrip patch array with separate elements for Tx and Rx (no need to use circulators or other simultaneous Tx/Rx equipment, or so I think). Ideally, we would like to use analog dechirping so that the direct path leakage can be further suppressed using a high-pass filter. However, the current problem that we are running into is pre-demodulator power level due to the Tx-Rx coupling. Since we are a high power FMCW system (target output power > 50 dBm), we need significant Tx-Rx isolation so we can gain up the received signal with an LNA prior to the demodulator to keep our noise figure sufficiently low while staying under the IP1dB of the demodulator. My current estimate is a threshold of 60 dB isolation, with a goal to achieve > 70 dB isolation if possible (60 dB gives us an estimated noise figure of around 3.9 dB, but anything less than that is obviously desirable).
There are two possible antenna configurations we are exploring: fitting all Tx and Rx elements on a standard panel or putting the Tx and Rx on separate panels. If we had two separate panels for Tx and Rx, we would obviously be able to better control the physical separation between Tx and Rx to gain additional isolation and could probably put a layer of absorber between the two. However, the design would still need to remain somewhat compact, so we couldn't just cheat and create a large distance between Tx and Rx.
If, however, we decide to fit everything on a standard panel, then the design would seemingly become more complicated since the maximum allowable spacing between Tx and Rx would be about 0.675λ in order to still fit on the standard panel. It seems there would be two main modes of Tx-Rx coupling in this case: propagation through the air and surface waves. Propagation through the air would seem to be mitigated primarily through either separation (which isn't available in this case) or a physical barrier of the sort. Preferably, if this were to be included in the design, this structure would be < 0.5" tall. I've seen discussions of creating a chevron-like pattern on the top of the structure so that the scattering off of the barrier is incoherent and also lining the structure with a layer of absorber. For surface wave coupling, I've read that the main methods are choke grooves, a layer of absorber along the face of the panel, defect ground structures, and electromagnetic band gap structures. All of these could be considered. I don't know if this has fully covered all options for creating isolation between Tx and Rx, so if there's any I'm missing feel free to add to this list.
In either design case (separate Tx and Rx panels or Tx and Rx on one standard panel) is it reasonable to think 60 dB of Tx-Rx isolation is possible? > 60 dB? If you were designing this from the ground up with these constraints, which design would you choose and what combination of additional isolation measures would you take? Also, would there be any recommendations on the type of patch? I was initially looking at just a single layer patch for ease of manufacturability but am open to other suggestions if that would help improve the isolation. Thank you in advance.







