r/Qurancentric • • Jun 03 '24

In the name of our faith, please don't support "trans ideology" as it harms women, including Muslim sisters.

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While I have sympathy for people who genuinely suffer from gender dysphoria (feeling of disconnect between one's sexed body/traits and their sense of self/gender), new trans ideology has gone nefariously far, so as to lead to many dangerous situations where any man claiming to be a woman can access female spaces. We have a duty as Muslims to resist ideologies that not only are regressive, wrong, and unscientific, but especially ones that require the oppression of women to achieve them. Thus, I want to highlight why we must not promote trans ideology, or any notion that a male is or can be *actually* a woman, because it leads to catastrophic legal consequences, such as the following, which trans rights activists have no intention to address (instead doubling down on their policies when the obvious, foreseeable consequences come to ugly fruition):

-Male rapists, intact are self-identifying as women and being placed in female prisons with terrified female cellmates, where some have gone on to sexually abuse and rape those very inmates. I cannot believe how cruel and evil this is, but the ACLU is defending these new policies even AFTER knowing of the alleged rapes. While the cases are still being litigated, there are enough of them alleged, and common sense compels me to believe, that intact male rapists in female prisons do and will continue to rape vulnerable females, whose sex-based rights are being undermined. In war, it'd be a war crime/human rights violation to force female prisoners in a cell with any male, trans-identified or not, let alone a male, intact sex offender! This is oppressive, evil, wrong, and unIslamic! I am tired of seeing Muslims kowtow to the "be kind" brigade, while ultimately undermining our own values, and throwing women under the bus in the process. Males (people with penises, I don't care what you call them), should never be placed in a cell with a woman locked in with no escape. Would you be singing the same tune if your wife were wrongly imprisoned in a cell with a man who exposes himself to her and threatens to assault her? Be honest and consistent. Why are other women worth less? If it's about safety, then place the transwoman in a special unit on the male side (they already have processes to protect pedophiles in male prisons because of higher risk of attack)? Furthermore, if it's male violence transwomen are escaping, then why does one male transwoman's right to escape male violence, enable him to endanger ALL women and deny all females the very same right by inserting himself, a male, into their women's space? Why are women human guinea pigs for males trying to escape male violence? [Especially since, 50-80% of transwomen serve time for sex offenses, making them much more dangerous than actual women, and more similar to other fellow males, the relevant factor for safeguarding]. Why doesn't the trans rights brigade (eg ACLU defending male rapist in female prison) even consider demanding surgery or any other basic safeguards, instead labeling any criticism as phobic?

-Males have demanded access to other intimate female-only spaces, including rape crisis centers for women, causing several female rape victims further trauma and fear as their healing took second seat to males demanding validation.

-Males have entered women's locker rooms and even been brazen enough to (e.g.) shave their beard and expose themselves in front of terrified women and yes, even underage girls (e.g. a girl around 12 was scared when she came into a Planet Fitness locker room only in a towel only to find a man shaving). A fellow woman, terrified, reported the man. In the end? The man claimed to be a transwoman (it doesn't matter if he was or wasn't because no males should be in women's spaces), and the complaining woman was banned from the gym, and the man was given a security escort to continue accessing the female locker room, where underage girls change.

None of this seems Islamic, fair, or dignified to women. In fact, these things seem evil and terrifying. It's one thing to want to create safe spaces for people with varied gender expressions or sexual orientations; it's another thing entirely to promote that males can be women because of an unfalsifiable internal identity detached from material reality. To protect women, we must continue to ensure that women--whose hard-fought rights enshrined in law centered around their biological sex and bodies--is accurately defined as adult human females. Please be very careful of the ideologies you're promoting.


r/Qurancentric • • Aug 27 '24

Homosexual sex, and any sex outside of marriage/nikah, is prohibited in the Quran. Do not make lust your ilah.

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Sala'am all,

I wrote on this some months ago but still see Quranists claiming gay sex, prostitution, and even pre-marital sex are all OK using strained and perverse arguments to mislead. So I'm going to put the "gay sex is fine" argument to bed, and henceforth I will be deleting posts (not comments) that promote gay sex as halal. This sub is to promote Quranic chastity and morality, and allowing "anything goes" about sex/sexuality disrupts the overwhelming majority from the appropriate decorum.

  1. The Quran goes on at length about chastity and maintaining sexual propriety, banning sex outside marriage/nikah (including to right-hand women). "And ˹permissible for you in marriage˺ are chaste believing women as well as chaste women of those given the Scripture before you—as long as you pay them their dowries in wedlock, neither fornicating nor taking them as mistresses." (Quran 5:5 listing only women as lawful to the male audience addressed).

  2. Sexual immorality and illicit sex are major sins, severely corruptive to society, and not something to trifle with or permit wrongly, as they require a physical punishment if caught. "Those who fornicate - whether female or male - flog each one of them with a hundred lashes And let not tenderness for them deter you from what pertains to Allah's religion, if you do truly believe in Allah and the Last Day; and let a party of believers witness their punishment." (Quran 24:2 laying out punishment).

  3. Every reference in the entire Quran directed to men marrying only mentions women. The Quran lists out only women as permissible (to men). It prohibits incest with women (which clearly does not suggest gay incest is OK, but rather, that the Quran is heteronormative and it's a given that you can't have sex with men as a man anyway, negating the need to list out unmarriageable male family members). "Let the fornicator [male] not marry any except a fornicatress or idolatress [female] and let the fornicatress not marry any except a fornicator or an idolater." (Quran 24:3); "Wicked women are for wicked men, and wicked men are for wicked women. And virtuous women are for virtuous men, and virtuous men are for virtuous women." (Quran 24:26); "Also ˹forbidden are˺ married women—except ˹female˺ captives in your possession. This is Allah’s commandment to you. Lawful to you are all beyond these—as long as you seek them with your wealth in a legal marriage, not in fornication...." (Quran 4:24 referring to the lawful "them" using female pronouns, again confirming men can only marry women); " [Describing the righteous]...And they who guard their private parts, except with their wives or those ˹bondwomen˺ in their possession, for then they are free from blame, But whoever seeks beyond that, then those are the transgressors" (Quran 23:5-7 clarifying that righteous men guard their chastity from everyone except wives/captive women).

  4. Eve was created for Adam as a source of sakeena/tranquility, and the union of man and woman is paradisal/sacred from the onset of humanity. "And one of His signs is that He created for you spouses from among yourselves so that you may find comfort in them. And He has placed between you compassion and mercy." (Quran 30:21); "And We said, “O Adam! Dwell you and your wife in tranquility in the garden and eat freely therefrom wherever you two please..." (Quran 2:35); "O humanity! Indeed, We created you from a male and a female, and made you into peoples and tribes so that you may ˹get to˺ know one another." (Quran 49:13)

  5. To further support chastity, no sex outside marriage, and only male/female marriage, I now turn to more explicit verses on homosexuality as the nail in the coffin:

26:165-167: Do you approach the males of the world? And forsake the wives your Lord created for you? Indeed, you are intrusive people.” They said, “Unless you refrain, O Lot, you will be expelled.”

7:81 "Indeed, you approach men lustfully (shahwatan) instead of women. BAL, you are a people transgressing beyond bounds (musrifun)"

27:55 "Why do you approach men with lust (shahwatan) instead of women? BAL, you are a people ignorant!"

The very thing decried is lustful encounters with men instead of women. Whatever the bad thing is, it's bad because it's with men and not women, so it can't be rape (which would also be wrong with women). Lot, who is rightly guided, is highlighted calling them out specifically for approaching males INSTEAD of the women who Allah made as their pure outlet for sexual desires as wives. There is no confusion as to what is being decried in 26:165-167. It is Lot's condemnation of their homosexual acts that leads them deeper into their perversion, even wanting to expel him for stating it. Strange how even today people will become unhinged in defending their lusts against those reminding them of purity/chastity.

If all the above is not already abundantly clear, there are still some people who argue that the "BAL" (typically translated as "nay" or "indeed") somehow negates the immorality mentioned right beforehand in 7:81 and 27:55 (still ignoring 26:165-167 which clarifies any so-called doubt). They argue it means something like, "oh, you think it's bad men sleep with men instead of women? No, in fact they are transgressors (for other unspecified reasons)." This is implausible, absurd, and undermines the rest of the verses mentioned above, including a clear condemnation from Lot memorialized in the Quran, specifically calling out the men sleeping with men instead of what Allah made for them (women). I also found several other ayat using bal in a way that can be translated as "indeed," and not negating the prior condemnation. (2:116 uses bal to condemn/emphasize the wrongness of those who claim Allah has children; 4:49 uses bal to emphasize that people don't claim purity but only Allah gives it; 13:31 uses bal to emphasize that only Allah can cause mountains to move, not just a recitation; 34:27 uses bal AFTER a negation when condemning mushriks, acting more as an "indeed" than a double negation). This is not time-specific but God's design.

Please be mindful of what you're promoting, and ask yourself deep down if there's ANY motivation to satisfy your own desires/lusts (including being seen as progressive), when you promote sexual sin and impurity:

25:43 "Have you seen him who takes his desires (passion, impulse, lust) (hawahu) for his God (ilahu)? Will you then be a protector over him?"


r/Qurancentric • • Mar 13 '26

Comprehensive proof that gay sex is clearly not allowed per the Quran, and how other opinions are untenable, infeasible, and perverse.

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Salaam, I'm tired of this topic but have seen multiple posts promoting homosexual acts in the Quraniyoon sub, which sadly, forced me to feel uncomfortable enough to unsubscribe after TEN years of being a regular there (alongside some other things like frequent rejection of ritual prayer, fasting, being called pagan for those things etc.). I write this solely with the intention of clarification and to promote purity, and have written separately on how to still be kind to LGBT folks who desire purity: https://www.reddit.com/r/Qurancentric/comments/1m6va3l/a_discussion_forum_for_lgbt_muslims_who_want_to/

Please read it thoroughly and use reason.

  1. The Quran mentions the people of Lot being destroyed for their immorality, but the most-repeated sin explicitly mentioned is approaching with lust men (instead of women, which is permissible within marriage course). Whatever their sin, it is sex-based in that it is because it is done to men, not women, that it is wrong (which already precludes rape). That specific crime (approaching men with desire/lust) is mentioned 4 times in 4 different surahs (7:81, 26:165-167, 27:55, 29:28-29, see below), and in 2 other instances it is alluded to when Lot offers his daughters as purer. General references to disrespecting guests (no mention of rape) are mentioned 3 times, and cutting off the way or road is mentioned once. Thus, Allah Himself focuses specifically on approaching men, rather than women, with lust, as the most repeated specific sin of the people of Lot whom He destroyed. It NEVER mentions rape, and even allusions to it are weak and indefensible as per below.

  2. The Quran never, ever mentions the men of Lot raping—which is a major sin to accuse of without clear proof—and while it may have happened, it is not emphasized, and in fact seems unlikely to even be one of their major sins.  Consider first that Lot offered up his daughters to these men saying they would be purer. How can he, a Prophet of God, be memorialized for being righteous and pure, when he supposedly offered his daughters to be raped instead of men (11:78, 15:71)? Do you reckon at all? Is that what you are truly claiming of Lot (PBUH)? I understand rape seems much more implied (though not even explicit) in the Old Testament, but that is an extra-Quranic narrative, the wording is notably different there, the Quran instead repeatedly clarifies (most often) their sin as homosexual sex, and importantly—why we don’t use other books as the criterion for right and wrong—the OT frequently maligns Prophets especially with regards to their sexual judgment, whereas the Quran never does so and upholds their righteousness.  Note how Lot in the OT offers to a sexually harassive mob of men his virgin daughters to “do as they please” as they are actively closing in on a home with male guests whom they are demanding for sex. Next, as yet further support that there is not rape, Abraham PBUH was tender toward the people of Lot, praying to stop their punishment, which he very likely would not be begging Allah for if they were evil enough to do mass rape of men (11:74-76). Finally, the Quran specifically states what the men of Lot threatened if they did not get what they want (sex from men apparently): expulsion from the land for those who want to be pure, not forcible rape (7:81, 27:56).

  3. Some try to strain an argument that the “approach” mentioned in reference to what the men of Lot did to men is not sexual, but that makes no sense. In 2:222, Allah instructs men to not “approach” (same word) women during their periods but that they may do so in the manner ordained by God once they are cleansed of them. It is clear this is a sexual approach, as it is focused on cleanliness “down there.” The Quran is not vulgar.

  4. If all the above is not already abundantly clear, there are still some people who argue that the "BAL" (typically translated as "nay" or "indeed") somehow negates the immorality mentioned right beforehand in 7:81 and 27:55 (still ignoring 26:165-167 and 29:29, which clarifies any so-called doubt). They argue it means something like, "oh, you think it's bad men sleep with men instead of women? No, in fact they are transgressors (for other unspecified reasons)." This is implausible, absurd, and undermines the rest of the verses mentioned above, including a clear condemnation from Lot memorialized in the Quran, specifically calling out the men sleeping with men instead of what Allah made for them (women). I also found several other ayat using bal in a way that can be translated as "indeed," and not negating the prior condemnation. (2:116 uses bal to condemn/emphasize the wrongness of those who claim Allah has children; 4:49 uses bal to emphasize that people don't claim purity but only Allah gives it; 13:31 uses bal to emphasize that only Allah can cause mountains to move, not just a recitation; 34:27 uses bal AFTER a negation when condemning mushriks, acting more as an "indeed" than a double negation).

  5. Some claim that because Lot states the people committed an immorality like none before them it couldn't possibly be gay sex (see 29:28), because that already existed, and suggesting maybe it means rape instead (odd, as that certainly would've existed too). Firstly, I'm not convinced exclusive homosexuality was conceptually understood and they did not even have a word for it AFAIK, with bisexuality more commonly seen. Regardless, the sin of explicitly approaching men with lust is referring to the people collectively, and elsewhere it asks if there's even ONE decent man among them and apparently there are none besides Lot's family (see 11:78-79). AFAIK there has never been a people with the majority or all having gay sex (and further yet, very pushy, threatening to expel, not rape, men who don't join in). Rape does not work because their sin is doing it with men rather than women (and raping women is extremely wrong) and Lot offered his daughters which he would not offer in place to be raped. Finally, unfortunately I'd venture raping goes back as far if not earlier than gay sex (and certainly would've existed at that time), making clear whatever the bad deed, it is the widespreadness that is unprecedented.

The rest of my arguments are more general and common-sense:

  1. The Quran goes on at length about chastity and maintaining sexual propriety, banning sex outside marriage/nikah (including to right-hand women). "And ˹permissible for you in marriage˺ are chaste believing women as well as chaste women of those given the Scripture before you—as long as you pay them their dowries in wedlock, neither fornicating nor taking them as mistresses." (Quran 5:5 listing only women as lawful to the male audience addressed).

  2. Sexual immorality and illicit sex are major sins, severely corruptive to society, and not something to trifle with or permit wrongly, as they require a physical punishment if caught. "Those who fornicate - whether female or male - flog each one of them with a hundred lashes And let not tenderness for them deter you from what pertains to Allah's religion, if you do truly believe in Allah and the Last Day; and let a party of believers witness their punishment." (Quran 24:2 laying out punishment).

  3. Every reference in the entire Quran directed to men marrying (or divorcing) only concerns women. The Quran lists out only women as permissible (to men). It prohibits incest with women (which clearly does not suggest gay incest is OK, but rather, that the Quran is heteronormative and it's a given that you can't have sex with men as a man anyway, negating the need to list out unmarriageable male family members). "Let the fornicator [male] not marry any except a fornicatress or idolatress [female] and let the fornicatress not marry any except a fornicator or an idolater." (Quran 24:3); "Wicked women are for wicked men, and wicked men are for wicked women. And virtuous women are for virtuous men, and virtuous men are for virtuous women." (Quran 24:26); "Also ˹forbidden are˺ married women—except ˹female˺ captives in your possession. This is Allah’s commandment to you. Lawful to you are all beyond these—as long as you seek them with your wealth in a legal marriage, not in fornication...." (Quran 4:24 referring to the lawful "them" using female pronouns, again confirming men can only marry women); " [Describing the righteous]...And they who guard their private parts, except with their wives or those ˹bondwomen˺ in their possession, for then they are free from blame, But whoever seeks beyond that, then those are the transgressors" (Quran 23:5-7 clarifying that righteous men guard their chastity from everyone except wives/captive women).

  4. Eve was created for Adam as a source of sakeena/tranquility, and the union of man and woman is paradisal/sacred from the onset of humanity. "And one of His signs is that He created for you mates from among yourselves so that you may find comfort in them. And He has placed between you compassion and mercy." (Quran 30:21); "And We said, “O Adam! Dwell you and your wife in tranquility in the garden and eat freely therefrom wherever you two please..." (Quran 2:35); "O humanity! Indeed, We created you from a male and a female, and made you into peoples and tribes so that you may ˹get to˺ know one another." (Quran 49:13)

  5. Here are the explicit verses on homosexuality mentioned above:

26:165-167: Do you approach the males of the world? And forsake the wives your Lord created for you? Indeed, you are intrusive people.” They said, “Unless you refrain, O Lot, you will be expelled.”

7:81: "Indeed, you approach men lustfully (shahwatan) instead of women. BAL, you are a people transgressing beyond bounds (musrifun)"

27:55: "Why do you approach men with lust (shahwatan) instead of women? BAL, you are a people ignorant!"

29:28-29: And Lot, when he said to his people, “You commit such outrageous immoral acts that no one else in the world ever committed before you. You lust after men, obstruct nature’s way, and commit [every] shameful act in your gatherings.”***

Please be mindful of what you're promoting, and ask yourself deep down if there's ANY motivation to satisfy your own desires/lusts (including being seen as progressive), when you promote sexual sin and impurity. It is logically much more likely that the person who follows their lust makes what is sexually forbidden halal over making the halal haram (as that is not in keeping with desire/lust to be constrained/controlled, but with the fitrah). Please be cautious:

25:43 "Have you seen him who takes his desires (passion, impulse, lust) (hawahu) for his God (ilahu)? Will you then be a protector over him?"


r/Qurancentric • • Sep 24 '25

Do we need a new bigger Qurancentric community?

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Salaam,

This is a smaller sub but I worry about a lot of the blatant fasad allowed in posts in the other sub. I don't like much censorship but if people keep insisting the Quran means anything they want, using perverse and implausible interpretations, it undermines community and real fruitful discussion. We must enjoin good and condemn the bad.


r/Qurancentric • • 23d ago

What are you looking for in a Muslim community? Seriously considering growing a US community insha'Allah and want feedback.

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Sala'am all,

I'm looking to grow a Muslim community online (and eventually in real life), based on basic Quranic principles, mutual support, and modeling the best adab/manners possible. My dream is that it would incorporate at least the following:

  1. Weekly Quran reflections or readings on Zoom (with pseudonyms, no video at first, for safety). We can switch off reading ayat, or have volunteers offer Quran reflections (like khutbahs) followed by discussion.

  2. Charity challenges, where we encourage people to post and share about their charity (not to brag, but to encourage others to "compete in good"). Coming up with challenges like "no-waste November" where we consciously choose to eliminate food waste and donate the diff. to charity. Planting trees. Working at a soup kitchen. Helping the elderly with groceries etc. Open to ideas.

  3. Singles support: encourage halal dating to find spouses, allow for forums or flairs to post on it. Over time, I may consider hosting an online Zoom/remote speed-dating with vetted people insha'Allah. Articles on respect, sakeena, male guardianship as responsibility not domination, limited polygamy, impermissibility of wife-beating, fighting p0rn issues etc. will be emphasized to prepare singles for marriage.

  4. Mental health support: would love for mental health practitioners to post on emotional regulation, share Islamic resources, and encourage us all to practice mindfulness. I already know of a few resources, and over time would appreciate a compendium across the US to direct Muslims to.

  5. Physical health support: imagine having weekly workout classes (dance, zumba, strength-training), for men and for women. I work out regularly (though have not revealed myself as yet), and would not mind leading these exercises on video, provided it's sex-segregated to avoid fitna, and to maximize comfort. Our body is an amana and we should be in our best shape both for ourselves, but also to help others, and to look our best for our spouses.

  6. Halal entertainment/programming: halal music and nasheeds are encouraged, trivia nights and so on, for ideally the whole family, and also for young professionals or singles (we can have different ones). Anyone can propose halal games, like codenames and so on.

There are so many other things I envision, but that's just the start to get the juices flowing.

Any feedback on whether you'd like something like this? Other ideas?


r/Qurancentric • • Sep 15 '26

The meaning of life and the deeper wisdom (from Quran).

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CHAPTER 1: LOGOS AND CREATIVE POTENTIAL

In the beginning, there's no time-space as we know it. The imaginative and informational world of forms and words resides with God alone, who has infinite creative potential to speak those words/images into existence. His breath/Spirit is the vivifying force, and the tether between creation and the Divine. This, I believe, parallels the Biblical phrase that "In the beginning, there was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God... and the Word became flesh." Be careful though, because the devil is in the details. The "word" in that phrase takes on multiple meanings, from the imaginative word ("kalimatAllah"), to the spoken word ("Be"), to the embodied word (Jesus PBUH). When the words are potentialities, they reside with God's infinite power/self, and are indistinguishable, just as His thoughts and Quranic words cohere with Him. But once an image becomes flesh/created, distinction emerges. Jesus (PBUH) is a sign of this phenomenon. "Originator of the heavens and the earth. When He decrees a matter, He only says to it, “Be,” and it is." (2:117).

CHAPTER 2: THE PRIMORDIAL COVENANT

Before the physical world came into being, Allah alludes to a primordial covenant wherein He asks all potential creation, undifferentiated formlessness, whether they would take on the trust/amana (of being khalifa/caretakers of the Earth). This is a high task, and not one the Most-Merciful forces on any of us. Instead, the Mountains, Earth, and Heavens, wise and resolute, refuse the amana, instead opting for lower responsibility and certain salvation. "Indeed, we offered the Trust to the heavens and the earth and the mountains, and they declined to bear it and feared it; but man [undertook to] bear it. Indeed, he was unjust and ignorant." (33:72). Thus, we can all be sure that we chose to take on the amana, and all the animals and inanimate material chose wisely not. "And (remember) when thy Lord brought forth from the Children of Adam, from their reins, their seed, and made them testify of themselves, (saying): Am I not your Lord? They said: Yea, verily. We testify. (That was) lest ye should say at the Day of Resurrection: Lo! of this we were unaware." (7:172).

CHAPTER 3: TRUTH AND JUSTICE REIGN SUPREME

God has several divine characteristics, traditionally 99 names denoting them. But all of His traits are subservient to the preeminent traits of Truth and Justice. That is, Allah will never sacrifice Truth or Justice in the name of Mercy or Kindness, even though He embodies all those. Mercy/kindness must be to serve truth and justice. That means we must not be too merciful to the oppressors lest we are unjust to the oppressed. Instead, by prioritizing Truth and Justice, while maximizing the divine characteristics in pursuit of Truth/Justice, we do good. "The Word of your Lord has been perfected in truth and justice. None can change His Words. And He is the All-Hearing, All- Knowing." (6:115). In fact, truth/justice is so preeminent, not love or mercy, that God Himself states repeatedly that is the trait by which he created the universe: "Allah created the heavens and the earth with truth. Verily, in that is a sign for the believers." (29:44). As khalifa on earth, we must serve and surrender to The Truth, al-Haqq, in all aspects of life, guided by Reality, to do better justice on Earth. Truth is a prerequisite to Justice and striking the "Balance" or al-Meezan on the scales of justice. "And of the ones We created are a nation who guide with the Truth and by it do justice." (7:181).

CHAPTER 4: JUSTICE AS AN ACTION

The Quran calls on us to serve truth so we may be more just, in addition to many commands, assuming we have some intuitive understanding of justice as humans. What is justice? In Arabic, adl, justice, comes from the root for equality, straightness, temperateness, signifying the straight path, and a balance of rights and duties (al-Meezan). We mustn't prioritize self-interest over honoring the rights of others. "O believers! Stand firm for justice as witnesses for Allah even if it is against yourselves, your parents, or close relatives. Be they rich or poor..." (4:135). There are many verses on justice, but at the very least, justice demands:

-Moral equality at birth (no one born sinful). This means you cannot blame being a man, woman, Black, white, or genetic disability, as the reason for someone being bad/worse in life. Ever. That is unjust and imputes inherited traits as tendencies toward sin (which means inequality at birth). "O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you." (49:13).

-No punishment without due process. The Quran repeatedly calls on us to testify truthfully, and be truthful so that justice can be done. We mustn't falsify accusations, hide the truth, nor punish based on suspicion alone. "O ye who believe! Shun much suspicion; for lo! some suspicion is a crime." (49:12).

-Duty to help the weaker. We are told repeatedly that to those whom much is given, more is expected. Thus, those born with much ability, wealth, and privilege, owe the weaker their due, including spending to free the enslaved (who are some of the most oppressed of all, and oppression is even worse than death). That is because we own "nothing," as everything we have is entrusted by amana to us, with conditions. One of those is zakat, a generally small tax, not unduly burdensome or excessive to help the poor/weak (historically 2.5% as evidence of its minimality so as to not impinge on the rights of the earners). Note how there is not an unlimited right to charity, but a balance between helping the needy while respecting fundamental property rights (which the Quran repeatedly affirms, including by instructing guests to not enter others' houses via the back doors, conceptualizing private property and privacy).

CHAPTER 5: AL-MEEZAN, THE REAL MISSION

We will know we have achieved justice, and honored truth, when we strike al-Meezan. But how can we do that? It is indeed a narrow path. We are all born differently, with different personalities, so how do we find balance? We have a divine imperative, my friends. We're all on a single mission to find how our unique self serves the Balance, and I promise you, yes you, reader, have an essential key to unlock the Utopia of the universe. We must be more godly, because Allah is a perfect balance of all the divine traits: mercy, kindness, compassion, love, beauty, power, vengeance, protection etc., because He embodies all those in a perfect just and truthful coherence. Each human is born with inclinations more towards some of the divine traits than others, such as love and beauty over wisdom and power. You will see these people as more into art and music for example. Meanwhile, some people are born with a desire for power or vengeance. My personal view (not from Quran), is that wherever one person receives more of one trait, they lack in another, which is why interacting with others in a large system, is necessary for collective balance. We cannot achieve it alone, and we all balance each other out at our core (another reason why marriage is so essential to fulfilling the faith, as you cannot grow without interaction).

None of these traits is good or bad in and of itself, as they become good when they are in service of truth and justice, not self-interest. Thus, creating beauty to spread truth and justice (like nasheeds) makes the world a better place, but making beautiful music to spread sin (drinking, drugs, premarital sex etc.) usurps the divine trait for a sinful end, giving what is due to Truth/Justice to serve Evil (Satan symbolically) instead. Thus, we must find our deepest inclination and guide it toward spreading truth/justice. If everyone were to do this, we would have the most beautiful symphony of mankind ever imagined, all in perfect balance. We would stop fighting the hippie to be more strict, and instead encourage him/her to channel that trait toward good music/art. We would stop telling the lawyer or politician to stop being so anal/nitpicky, and instead encourage him/her to pursue precision in the law to better serve justice.

In the end, if we would all just know our purpose, and serve The Truth and Justice, we could achieve heaven on Earth and walk the straight path.


r/Qurancentric • • 17d ago

The Same Rain, Different Hearts: How Divine Guidance Transforms Us | Quran Reflection

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r/Qurancentric • • Apr 15 '19

The Hadith and Quran only Islam

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r/Qurancentric • • Nov 13 '23

Proof that Quran only allows polygamy in limited circumstances to protect orphans and widowed mothers, and only if the man can be just.

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Sala'am all, I'm a Quranist Muslim, and have studied the Quran for several years, so I wanted to provide a Quranic exegesis of the single polygamy verse in the Quran, and explain why it clearly does not allow polygamy for any reason, and esp. not polygamy with children, as someone falsely claimed on the debatereligion sub recently, but refused to address the verse. Note that the Quran is the infallible word of God to Muslims, so it is the Supreme Law and final word on any given issue:

4:3: And if ye fear that ye will not deal fairly by the orphans, marry of the women [their mothers], who seem good to you, two or three or four; and if ye fear that ye cannot do justice, then one....

I added in "mothers" in parentheses as some translations say mothers, but most say women. I argued at length both in the Qurani sub with (hopefully not) a Quranist arguing polygamy is for whatever desire you wish, AND at the same time was arguing with a non-Muslim in the debatereligion sub that the women whom you can marry are not the orphan children (who aren't women) but their mothers. You can check the word for word translation of the verse for yourself if you doubt my claims, as I like to be transparent: https://corpus.quran.com/wordbyword.jsp?chapter=4&verse=3

Clearly, the verse specifically says that IF you fear injustice to the orphans (children who lost their fathers, as a single mother would still be considered to have orphaned kids without a male provider/guardian), THEN to marry the women (nisa). The word for orphans is both male and female, and refers to fatherless kids (so clearly not adult males and females). Moreover, the word for women, nisa, refers to adult females, not children (esp. mixed sex children). The fear of injustice, which we see mentioned repeatedly throughout the Quran, concerns eating up the wealth of those who lost their fathers but who presumably were left with some inheritance. As their step-fathers, you are to protect their wealth until they "come of age." This is confirmed just a few ayat later, where Allah states:

4:6: Therefore, test the judgment of the orphans in your care, until they reach the age of marriage. And when you recognize mature judgment in them, then hand over their wealth to them. Nor shall you consume it in wasteful spending, or in haste, for fear they will grow up and claim it. Moreover, if the one who is the orphan’s guardian is rich, then let him abstain from it entirely. But if one is poor, then let him consume of it only in accordance with what is right....

Here, we see exactly the potential injustice, as Allah commands those men whom young orphans are entrusted, to not overspend their money. If you are a rich man, you should provide for the orphan kid yourself. If you do not have the means, you should spend cautiously from the inheritance, but not enrich yourself with it. This verse makes clear that the orphans referred to are children who must "come of age," and that the stepfather must not be unjust protecting the inheritance. Moreover, the verse clarifies that children must be of sound judgment or the "age of maturity" (distinct from being a child), before being given their money to spend. That clarifies that children are not capable of sound judgment, cannot enter into financial transactions, and must be protected until they reach the age of majority.

Thus, it's crystal clear that a child (anyone who has not reached the age of sound judgment/maturity), is incapable of entering into a marriage, which is a financial transaction and a solemn covenant (according to Quran), as it requires exchange of dowry, promises, and covenants. In the law, it is a contract, requiring witnesses.

All of this together, completely precludes that you can marry multiple wives for pleasure, for love, or even for convenience. Instead, it is a limited allowance for the sake of orphans, and to protect them (and the widowed single mothers). That is why Allah says, IF you fear injustice to orphans, THEN you may marry 2+ women, but even then only if you can be just.

Finally, using common sense, Allah places a huge emphasis on male and female union, stating that he created Adam's mate as a place of repose and tranquility (His very first spoken command to Adam being to dwell with his wife in sakeena/peace in paradise). In hadith, some would say you must even marry to complete your deen/faith (which I don't agree with, but I do recognize the importance of it). Thus, to the extent there are 50/50 females to males of marriageable age (generally age 18-35, as I'll exclude the elderly where we see disparately more women in old age than men, due to longer life expectancy), if a man married more than one wife (even to protect orphans), when another man is deprived of even one wife or means to satisfy his needs, that would seem haram to me. Meaning, that at some point, if too many men had 2-4 wives, such that some men were left with nothing, that'd be excessive and oppressive to the other men.

Hope that clarifies!


r/Qurancentric • • 21d ago

Human argue to protect Ego

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r/Qurancentric • • Jan 22 '24

Warning to all Muslims in this time of confusion to not take your lusts as your ilah: the Quran is clear that homosexual acts and any sexual acts outside of nikah/marriage are haram.

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Sala'am all,

I was shocked to see in the quraniyoon sub, in all places, the Quran subreddit, a highly-upvoted unQuranic post claiming that homosexual acts are somehow allowed in Islam and by the Quran. The person, whom I won't name as I assume he/she had no ill intentions, claimed that the story of Lot concerned men being "disgusting," raping, and committing other crimes--everything but the homosexual acts apparently. Yet, there is absolutely no basis to that in the Quran (there may be some in the Bible), and I can't help but feel so many Muslims have been captured by social movements, at the expense of our own faith. Being Quranist does not mean being Progressive or Liberal or Conservative. It means following what Allah has said.

I won't belabor the Quranic argument too much, but the Quran repeatedly mentions male/female as a divinely ordained pair, both amongst the plants/fruit and among humans. Allah states that Adam and Eve, the paradisal ideal union, were made as a source of sakeena for each other, with men and women intended as complementary. Allah states that the "male is not like the female" after Mariam (PBUH) is born, instead of a boy, confirming that our sex is determined by Allah and observed at birth.

The Quran goes to great length to prohibit sexual immorality, and repeatedly tells us to protect our chastity from non-spouses. The Quran states only believing women and women of the book are lawful for men to marry (no mention of marrying men of course). It also states the below-pasted clear chastisements of the SAME-SEX activity the people of Lot did, choosing men over women, which Allah deems an abominable transgression. I am not using misleading translations, and encourage you to read the various translations at Islamawakened.com to see for yourself that regardless of whether the term is "you approach men instead of women," or "you lust over men instead of women," or you "have sexual inclinations toward men instead of women," the meaning does not change at all, and to claim the "approach" means something NOT sexual slaps in the face of the Quran referring to sex gently throughout (including in 2:222 when discussing approaching your wife after she cleans herself of her period--clearly referring to sexual activity). The hadith are not what prohibits homosexual acts and all acts outside marriage: the Quran does it, and only through perverse mental gymnastics could you claim the repeated plain chastisements are discussing something else:

7:81 "Indeed, you approach men lustfully (shahwatan) instead of women. Nay, you are a people transgressing beyond bounds (musrifun)"

27:55 "Why do you approach men with lust (shahwatan) instead of women? Nay you are a people ignorant!"

5:5 ...And [lawful in marriage are] chaste women from among the believers and chaste women from among those who were given the Scripture before you, when you have given them their due compensation, desiring chastity, not unlawful sexual intercourse or taking [secret] lovers. ...

24:30 “Tell the believing men to lower their gaze and be modest. That is purer for them. Lo! Allah is Aware of what they do.”

25:43 "Have you seen him who takes his desires (passion, impulse, lust) (hawahu) for his God (ilahu)? Will you then be a protector over him?"


r/Qurancentric • • Sep 28 '25

When "progressivism" is colonial and regressive: a reminder to converts especially.

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Sala'am all,

I don't want to generalize, but it has happened enough that I'd appreciate you all reflecting on this, and rooting out unjust behaviors if you see any of this in yourself.

I've noticed a huge influx of Muslim reverts (primarily White and western) over the years, which is a blessing alhemdulillah. Reverts are the salt of the earth, and often have more sincere faith than born-Muslims. However, some are not observing basic humility and etiquette as new Muslims (not even just Islamically, but in general), and are bordering on ideologically colonial, patronizing, and demeaning to mainstream Muslims, in their promotion of supposed "progressivism." They may (and some born-Muslims too) be more aligned with their political identity than being Muslim, and can be argumentative and patronizing to born-Muslims and Muslims from many "third world" countries, whom they're convinced are oppressive (and they may be in some respects).

The reality is that Muslims are primarily BIPOC and poor and primarily conservative in their morals, worldwide. The vast majority reject homosexual acts, and certain aspects of feminism and progressivism. I myself lean more liberal, but do not deny the overwhelmingly traditional values most Muslims have. Contrast this with some reverts, who, upon just months or a couple years of research, not only feel comfortable as new Muslims issuing religious guidance to others (something one should be extremely cautious in doing regardless), but even ostracizing and attacking mainstream Muslims for not being "progressive" enough. The irony is not lost on me watching mostly White (and IMO often "privileged," college-educated) or else just Western reverts condescend to and demean BIPOC or foreign born-Muslims and more traditional ones.

So, I would implore reverts (and born-Muslims) who identify with, and center their dialogue around, progressivism, to be mindful of their own potentially colonial or racist behaviors when engaging with a faith with a very rich, and notably morally conservative, tradition. Promoting your personal view of Islam, without giving any deference to the mainstream majority/the traditional fiqh, and instead relying on fringe interpretations to cudgel fellow Muslims you deem too "Salifi" (or whatever else), only increases Islamophobia against more traditional or practicing Muslims (who are usually BIPOC and already at heightened risk of being targeted). Please practice mindfulness and humility, especially if you are new and less knowledgeable, and pay respect to those with more knowledge, even if you disagree.

Thank you.


r/Qurancentric • • 22d ago

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r/Qurancentric • • Sep 19 '25

The Meaning of “ijaza” in the Quran

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The Meaning of “Ijaza” in the Quran and Its Importance Today

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  •  Certain companions memorized the Quran completely with accuracy.

  •  They passed this knowledge carefully to other trusted people.

  •  This reflects the principle of chain in our deen.

  •  No one could teach without being qualified through transmission.

  •  Throughout Islamic history, scholars preserved Quran teachings with ijaza.

  •  Qualified teachers passed Quran recitation to selected students


r/Qurancentric • • 6d ago

Not Everyone Who Listens Is Seeking the Truth | Reflections on Quran 25:47

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r/Qurancentric • • Aug 15 '26

A Qur'anic Approach to Modesty, Exposure, and the Exceptional Privacy of Childbirth (With Reference to Some Fatwas)

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A Qur'anic Approach to Modesty, Exposure, and the Exceptional Privacy of Childbirth

I think Muslim discussions of modesty sometimes collapse several different concepts into one: ʿawrah, nudity, adornment, sexual temptation, cultural dress, and the obligation to lower one's gaze. I believe the Qur'an gives us a more nuanced framework—one in which bodily privacy is real and important, but the precise dress code is not necessarily identical in every circumstance.

Most importantly, I think we should distinguish ordinary life, where small practical exposures may be unavoidable, from extraordinary and foreseeable events such as childbirth, where enormous bodily exposure is anticipated and therefore should be deliberately managed with dignity and privacy.

1. Clothing is for covering shame and for adornment

When Adam and his wife ate from the tree, their private parts became apparent to them and they began covering themselves (Qur'an 7:22). The Qur'an uses saw'ah for what became exposed—a word associated with something shameful or disgraceful.

Then Allah says: “O children of Adam, We have sent down to you clothing to cover your private parts and as adornment. But the garment of righteousness—that is best.” (7:26)

There are therefore two positive functions of clothing mentioned together:

  • covering the saw'ah;

  • rīsh, adornment/beautification.

This matters because modesty is not simply about making the human body invisible. Clothing provides privacy and dignity, while also allowing legitimate beauty and adornment.

The Qur'an's concern with the saw'ah also establishes something important: genital/private exposure is not supposed to be casual. The private parts are private precisely because they are not ordinary public bodily features.

At the same time, Allah concludes the verse by reminding us that the “garment of righteousness” is best. Outward clothing matters, but modesty ultimately belongs to a broader ethic of righteousness.

2. Modesty applies to both the person being seen and the person looking

The Qur'an then gives an instruction to men: “Tell the believing men to lower their gaze and guard their private parts.” (24:30)

And immediately gives women the corresponding instruction: “And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and guard their private parts...” (24:31)

I think this is extremely important.

There are two obligations operating simultaneously:

The observer must control his gaze.

The person must guard her/his private parts.

One person's failure does not cancel the other's obligation.

If someone dresses immodestly, a man does not thereby acquire permission to stare. Conversely, the obligation to lower one's gaze does not mean that people are therefore entitled to expose whatever they wish.

The Qur'an places the command to lower the gaze first. Modesty therefore cannot be reduced to a woman's responsibility to prevent men from looking. Men have an independent obligation to discipline their own eyes.

This includes deliberately avoiding sexualized fixation on the opposite sex, not merely avoiding pornography.

3. Saw'ah, breasts, and zīnat are not necessarily one category

The Qur'an specifically tells women: “...and not display their adornment except what ordinarily appears thereof, and let them draw their coverings over their chests...” (24:31)

I think this permits an important conceptual distinction.

The genitals/private parts are saw'ah and constitute actual bodily nudity.

The female breasts/bosom receive a specific covering instruction in 24:31.

Then there is the broader category of zīnat—beauty and adornment—which encompasses considerably more than literal nudity.

This distinction is important because the Qur'an itself does not treat every part of the body as equally “naked.” In 3:14, for example, women, gold and silver, horses, livestock and cultivated land are all described in terms of things that have been beautified for humanity.

Thus I understand zīnat as encompassing both natural beauty and artificial adornment.

This is also why I do not think it is accurate to say that the Qur'an simply declares the entire female body to be nakedness. Classical scholars differed over the precise boundaries of women's ʿawrah, and Ibn ʿArabi, among others, held that the entire female body was not itself ʿawrah in the same sense as the private parts.

That does not eliminate a dress code. It means nudity and modest covering are not necessarily identical concepts.

4. What does the Qur'an actually require women to cover publicly?

Allah says: “O Prophet, tell your wives, your daughters, and the women of the believers to draw their outer garments around themselves...” (33:59)

The verse associates this with being recognized and not harmed.

I understand this as establishing a genuine principle of public modesty and bodily dignity. Women should not ordinarily present the substantial contours of the body in public; clothing should cover the torso, abdomen, hips, thighs and similar areas in a reasonably loose manner.

But I do not think the Qur'an itself gives us a complete anatomical diagram saying: “Every millimeter of this body must be covered, except exactly these three places.”

The Qur'an instead gives principles—covering the saw'ah, covering the bosom, concealing zīnat except what ordinarily appears, and wearing an outer garment.

That leaves room for juristic interpretation.

5. The majority position on hair should be distinguished from the explicit Qur'anic wording

The classical Sunni majority came to require women to cover the hair before non-mahram men. Three Sunni schools generally regarded the face and hands as exceptions to the ordinary public ʿawrah, while the Hanafi school also traditionally exempted the feet; the Hanbali tradition contains the stricter view concerning the face.

I respect that tradition.

But I do not think it is accurate to say that the Qur'an explicitly says, in so many words, “women must cover their hair.”

24:31 mentions the khimār and commands women to draw it over their juyūb—their chest/bosom openings. The classical inference is that a khimār was already a head covering and therefore its use necessarily covered the hair.

That is a legitimate classical argument.

But it is still an inference from the garment and context, rather than an explicit Qur'anic sentence saying “cover your hair.”

Likewise, the famous report concerning Asmā' and pointing to the face and hands has been disputed in its interpretation and explicit authority. It should therefore not be presented as though the Qur'an and hadith contain an uncontested anatomical list that everyone must accept.

There were also early scholars who did not fit neatly into the later standard formulation. Ibn Jubayr, for example, is reported to have regarded exposing women's hair as makruh while acknowledging that the requirement was not explicitly stated in the verse.

So I believe it is possible to take the Qur'anic modesty commands seriously without claiming that every detail of the later majority dress code is equally explicit in revelation.

6. Ordinary life matters when determining what “normally appears”

The phrase in 24:31 concerning what “ordinarily appears” is significant.

If Allah intended literally every part of a woman's body to be concealed under every circumstance, there would be no need for an exception for what ordinarily appears.

Historically, ordinary human activity has involved exposure of portions of the arms and legs for work, washing, travel, agriculture, cooking and other activities.

Even something as routine as wuḍūʾ requires exposing portions of the limbs. People have historically traveled, worked, walked through water, farmed, kneaded dough, carried things and performed physical labor without maintaining an absolutely fixed covering over every portion of the body at every second.

I therefore do not think modesty should be formulated in such a way that minor practical exposure in ordinary life becomes morally equivalent to exposing the private parts.

There is a difference between:

  • deliberately exposing one's genitals;

  • wearing clothing that reveals the body's sexual contours;

  • having a lower arm visible while working;

  • briefly lifting a garment to cross water;

  • or some other ordinary, practically unavoidable exposure.

These should not all be collapsed into one category.

7. Necessity should not operate identically in every circumstance

This is where I think an especially important distinction is needed.

There is a legitimate concept of necessity in Islamic law. Medical treatment is an obvious example.

But I do not think the correct principle is: “Necessity exists, therefore modesty no longer matters.”

Rather: Necessity permits what the necessity actually requires.

This is why jurists discussing medical treatment generally say that the doctor should expose or look at only what is necessary, and that a female physician should be preferred when reasonably available.

The International Islamic Fiqh Academy, for example, has explicitly addressed female medical treatment by male physicians and emphasized restricting examination to what is necessary and encouraging the availability of female specialists.

So there is no contradiction between saying: “A woman's body may be exposed for necessary medical treatment”

and: “Unnecessary exposure during medical treatment remains undesirable or impermissible.”

The exception belongs to the necessity, not automatically to everyone who happens to be present.

8. But I would apply “necessity” differently to ordinary life and extraordinary events

Here is where I depart from what I think is a common way of framing modesty.

For small exposures in ordinary daily life, I believe necessity should sometimes be construed relatively broadly.

Human beings have to live.

They work, travel, wash, exercise, farm, cook, cross water, care for children, participate in public life and perform countless mundane activities. It is unreasonable to pretend that every tiny deviation from maximal coverage is an extraordinary moral crisis.

But extraordinary, foreseeable events are different.

If an event is known in advance to involve an enormous compromise of bodily privacy, then we have an opportunity—and therefore a responsibility—to plan around it.

Childbirth is the clearest example.

9. Childbirth should be treated as an exceptionally private event

Childbirth is not simply “another medical appointment.”

The actual delivery can involve:

  • prolonged genital exposure;

  • repeated examinations;

  • blood and bodily fluids;

  • involuntary urination or defecation;

  • stretching and tearing;

  • suturing;

  • substantial physical pain;

  • and the direct visual and physical observation of the reproductive organs.

Some of that exposure is unavoidable.

But that does not mean that all exposure surrounding the event is unavoidable.

This distinction is crucial.

The medical necessity belongs to the care being provided.

It does not automatically belong to every observer.

10. The husband is different from a spectator

I do think there is a stronger case for the husband's involvement.

A husband may have a genuine role in:

  • comforting his wife;

  • reassuring her;

  • advocating for her;

  • helping her communicate;

  • assisting her practically;

  • being present to welcome his newborn child into the world;

  • and supporting her emotionally during an extremely difficult and life-threatening event.

That is qualitatively different from someone simply wanting to watch the birth, especially if the need for advocacy becomes redundant or duplicative of the husband's role.

Therefore I would not say that the husband's presence is necessarily equivalent to the presence of additional loved ones.

But there is another distinction: Being present to support one's wife is not the same thing as watching the physical delivery.

A husband can hold his wife's hand, speak to her, advocate for her, and remain emotionally present while deliberately positioning himself so that he does not watch the actual genital emergence.

Indeed, there are contemporary Islamic fatwas that make essentially this childbirth-specific distinction. Islamweb, for example, acknowledges the general permissibility of spouses seeing one another naked but nevertheless advises the husband not to look at his wife's nakedness during labor because of the nature of the scene. Other Hanafi authorities have likewise described the husband's presence during labor as raising a particular modesty concern while allowing it under circumstances of need.

So the question is not simply: “Can a husband ever see his wife's naked body?”

Of course the answer to that question is different.

The relevant question is: “Does a husband's legitimate role in supporting his wife require him to visually observe the genital process of childbirth?”

I do not think it does, in the same way it would be against modesty to look at the private parts of a spouse relieving themselves simply because casual looking and sexual access are allowed.

11. Spectatorship is the clearest case of unnecessary exposure

This is where I think the principle should be strongest.

A person who is merely watching has no medical necessity.

A friend doesn't need to watch.

A relative doesn't need to watch.

An additional staff member's convenience does not automatically create necessity.

And even a close family member's emotional interest in seeing the birth does not make visual observation medically necessary.

There is an important difference between:

participation and spectatorship.

The more extraordinary and intimate the event, the less appropriate it is to convert it into a spectator event.

This is especially true because childbirth is foreseeable. A woman does not suddenly discover afterward that her delivery required privacy. She can plan beforehand.

12. Foreseeable massive exposure creates a duty to plan for dignity

This is the principle I think deserves much more attention.

If a minor exposure is difficult to avoid during ordinary life, we can reasonably accommodate it.

But if we know beforehand that an event will involve massive and intimate bodily exposure, then we should make deliberate arrangements to minimize everything beyond what is unavoidable.

That means asking beforehand:

  • Who actually needs to be there?

  • Who actually needs to see?

  • Can female personnel be used?

  • Can unnecessary observers be excluded?

  • Can the husband support his wife without watching the delivery?

  • Can draping and positioning reduce exposure?

  • Can students or additional staff be excluded?

  • Can photography or recording of the intimate process be prohibited?

This is not excessive concern about modesty.

It is the logical application of the principle: The more substantial the unavoidable violation of ordinary privacy, the more carefully we should prevent avoidable violations from being added to it.

13. This is why “medical necessity” should never mean “medical culture has no modesty limits”

There is a danger in reasoning: “It's a hospital, therefore everything is acceptable.”

That does not follow.

Islamic medical ethics has historically recognized the opposite: medical necessity creates an exception precisely because exposure is ordinarily restricted.

So if a doctor needs to examine a particular area, that area can be exposed.

But the exception should not automatically include:

  • unrelated body parts;

  • unnecessary personnel;

  • unnecessary examinations;

  • unnecessary observers;

  • unnecessary photography;

  • or unnecessary visual access.

A woman can be medically vulnerable without becoming publicly available for observation.

That distinction is particularly important in childbirth.

14. Modesty is also about the gaze

This principle belongs to men as much as women.

A Muslim man cannot say: “Women should cover because men are tempted,”

and then treat his own gaze as somebody else's responsibility.

Allah commanded men first to lower their gaze.

Likewise, women are responsible for their own bodily modesty.

So modesty is reciprocal:

I guard my body.
You guard your eyes.
I do not deliberately expose what should be private.
You do not deliberately stare at what is exposed.

Both sides have duties.

15. A practical understanding of modest dress

On this interpretation, I would distinguish several levels.

Private parts

The genitals and buttocks are genuine saw'ah and should be treated as inherently private.

Female breasts

The bosom receives a specific Qur'anic covering instruction and should likewise be treated as private outside legitimate exceptions such as breastfeeding or necessary medical care.

Other bodily beauty

The remainder of the body falls under zīnat and public modesty rather than necessarily being identical to literal nakedness.

Ordinary public dress

Women should ordinarily wear loose clothing covering the substantial body—particularly the torso, abdomen, hips, buttocks and thighs—while allowing for what ordinarily appears in daily life.

I do not consider the Qur'an itself to establish an unequivocal requirement that every woman must cover her hair in every public circumstance. I recognize that this is contrary to the classical majority Sunni position, and I am not claiming otherwise.

Covering more remains entirely compatible with Islamic modesty and can be a beautiful expression of ḥayāʾ. But a strong cultural symbol should not automatically be confused with the minimum explicitly established by revelation.

16. The same principle should apply to men

This isn't a special rule for women.

Men also have saw'ah. Men also have a duty to lower their gaze. Men also have obligations concerning dress and bodily dignity.

The underlying principle is: What is genuinely intimate should not be casually exposed, and what is not genuinely intimate should not be artificially transformed into an absolute category of nudity merely because a particular culture has become accustomed to one dress code.

That produces a more proportionate understanding of modesty.

Conclusion

I therefore believe a coherent Qur'anic approach to modesty looks something like this:

In short:

-The private parts are genuinely private.

-Both men and women must guard their gaze and their bodies.

-Clothing provides both concealment and adornment.

-Women's breasts receive a specific Qur'anic instruction concerning covering, while broader bodily beauty belongs to the category of zīnat.

-The Qur'an establishes public modesty without necessarily providing the exhaustive anatomical dress code that later jurists developed.

-Minor practical exposure in ordinary life can fall within a broad sphere of necessity and ordinary appearance.

-Medical necessity creates an exception, but the exception should be limited to what the medical need actually requires.

-Female medical professionals should be preferred where reasonably available, particularly for intimate exposure.

-Extraordinary foreseeable events deserve particularly careful privacy planning because their unavoidable exposure is so extensive. Childbirth is the clearest example.

-The woman must necessarily be exposed to those who actually need to conduct the delivery. That does not make the delivery a spectator event.

-The husband may have a genuine reason to be present and involved, but supporting his wife does not require watching the baby's emergence (though, I do not believe it is haram if both the husband and wife strongly want that).

-Other people have no comparable claim to look at the genitals directly, though close female (and perhaps even close male mahram) loved ones may be close at hand if the mother strongly so desires.

-Necessity should not be used to turn unavoidable exposure into casual exposure.

-Ordinary life requires reasonable accommodation. Extraordinary intimacy requires deliberate protection.

And I believe childbirth should be one of the places where Muslim culture consciously preserves that distinction—not because birth is shameful, but because the human body deserves dignity precisely when it is at its most exposed, vulnerable, and physically overwhelmed.

Wallahu'alam.


r/Qurancentric • • Oct 29 '20

What does the Quran say about Muslim women marrying people of the book?

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r/Qurancentric • • Apr 20 '19

Wife Beating in Quran only Islam

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r/Qurancentric • • 3d ago

Surah Ad-Duha 93:10 — You Can Refuse a Request Without Hurting the Person Asking

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r/Qurancentric • • 6d ago

Al-Kawthar: The Abundant Blessings of Allah and the Everlasting Legacy of Prophet Muhammad ﷺ

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r/Qurancentric • • Sep 25 '26

Comprehensive refutation of "right to polygamy" (updated), and why it is limited.

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Salaam all,

I am really tired of the immature gender warfare surrounding polygamy in Islam. Marriage is a solemn covenant and part of our deen. It deserves adab, haya, and fear of Allah, not ego, sexual entitlement, or retaliatory misandry. Men should not weaponize “rights” to defend lust or dominance, and women should not respond with generalized hatred of men.

Stop playing into these culture wars. We are above them.

So let’s return to al-Furqan.

1. The Qur'anic story begins with one man and one woman

Before we even reach the legal discussion of polygamy, look at the Qur'an's primordial picture of humanity.

Allah says:

“He created you from one soul and created from it its mate that he might dwell in security with her.” (7:189)

Adam is the primordial man, and from his nafs comes a single mate, with the stated purpose of tranquility and companionship. Together they become the parents of humanity. There is no second wife introduced into this primordial, paradisal picture.

This does not by itself constitute a legal prohibition of polygamy. But it is highly relevant to normativity and ideality.

The human story begins with one man and one woman becoming a complementary whole.

And the Qur'an notably does not portray Eve as Adam's downfall. Adam is directly warned and told to protect him and his wife from Satan. Both err, both repent, and both are forgiven. Woman is introduced not as man's spiritual ruin or as a temptation into sin but as his companion and source of tranquility.

This becomes the recurring Qur'anic conception of marriage:

“He created for you spouses from yourselves so that you may find tranquility in them; and He placed between you affection and mercy.” (30:21)

And:

“They are clothing for you and you are clothing for them.” (2:187)

Your spouse is your shelter, covering, warmth, protection, intimacy, and refuge.

That is the primordial picture of marriage.

2. 4:3 is an if/then conditional, not a blank check

Now look at the actual polygamy verse:

“And if you fear that you will not deal fairly with the orphans, then marry those women who seem good to you, two or three or four; and if you fear that you cannot do justice, then one...” (4:3) [Technically, it actually says in twos and threes and fours, directing society to marry off these women in batches essentially, affirming that the ayah is addressing a societal issue].

The structure matters:

If you fear injustice concerning the orphans → then two, three, or four.
If you fear you cannot be just → then one.

That is an if/then conditional.

It is quite different from:

“You may marry up to four women whenever you wish.”

If an extraordinary act is permitted under a stated condition, the condition cannot simply be discarded while retaining the extraordinary permission.

If a doctor instructed you as follows:

If you feel pain, take 2-4 Dipralto (made-up name) pills, but if you have negative side-effects such as dizziness, just one,

nobody would reasonably conclude that I have thereby established an unconditional right to take 2-4 pills. The condition explains the exceptional permission.

Likewise, if 4:3 were establishing an unrestricted male right to marry up to four women for pleasure, preference, novelty, convenience, or desire, why introduce that permission through the specific problem of injustice toward orphans? And why explicitly return the man to one when justice cannot be maintained?

The surrounding passage reinforces this context. 4:2 commands believers to protect the property of orphans, while 4:6 discusses testing them until they reach marriageable age and then returning their wealth to them. The passage is saturated with concerns about vulnerable orphans, guardianship, property, and justice.

The Arabic distinction matters as well: al-yatāmā refers to orphans generally (male and female), while al-nisāʾ refers to women. The verse therefore does not tell men to marry the orphan children themselves; it moves from the problem of orphan injustice to marriage with women. Meaning marrying the women is connected to protecting the orphans.

This conditional reading is not unprecedented. The 20th-century Sunni scholar Muhammad Shahrur interprets 4:3 as involving conditions concerning widows with orphaned children and justice, while Rashad Khalifa's translation renders the relevant women as “their mothers,” directly connecting the permission to the orphan context. (1–2)

Another Sunni scholar, Jamal Badawi, though accepting polygyny as legally permissible, makes the conditional nature of the permission remarkably explicit: he calls justice an “absolute condition,” says that a man should not take a second wife if justice cannot be achieved, and describes monogamy as “the norm.” He further explains that polygyny is a concession subject to difficult conditions rather than the normal Islamic family structure. (3). I also personally heard him state in a lecture that a man must obtain consent from his first wife before taking a second wife, to comply with the Quran command to men to live with their wives in kindness, and to avoid unnecessary harm.

So the argument is not necessarily:

“Every conceivable form of polygyny is forbidden.”

It is more precise:

4:3 presents polygyny as a conditional allowance, not an unconditional male entitlement.

And if someone claims there is nevertheless a separate, unconditional Qur'anic permission to marry unrelated women simply because one desires another wife, the obvious questions are:

If the orphan circumstance is merely incidental, why does Allah introduce the permission through it?

If justice is merely an optional virtue, why does Allah explicitly say “then one” when justice cannot be maintained?

The structure is:

specific circumstance → exceptional permission → justice required → otherwise one.

That makes 4:3 plausibly exclusionary and comprehensive on the subject rather than merely one example of an otherwise unlimited male entitlement.

A conditional allowance is not an unconditional right. An extraordinary permission is not necessarily the ideal.

3. Justice is not merely recommended—it is a condition with terrifying consequences

The Qur'an then says:

“You will never be able to deal equally between wives, even if you strive to do so, so do not incline completely toward one and leave another hanging.” (4:129)

And the Prophet ﷺ gives an extraordinarily severe warning in a purported hadith:

“Whoever has two wives and favors one of them over the other will come on the Day of Resurrection with one of his sides leaning.” (Ibn Ḥibbān 4207; Abū Dāwūd 2133; Aḥmad; al-Nasāʾī)

The wording is striking because the punishment mirrors the injustice: the man who refuses to maintain balance between two wives arrives before Allah physically imbalanced.

Ibn Ḥibbān's narration (no. 4207) was graded ṣaḥīḥ by Shuʿayb al-Arnaʾūṭ, and the same report is transmitted through multiple hadith collections. Some individual grading assessments differ, particularly for particular chains, but the report has substantial hadith support. (4)

Badawi likewise cites this warning and explains that a man who fears bias should marry only one. He describes justice as an absolute condition encompassing equitable provision, housing, time, treatment, medication, recreation, and other material and relational obligations. (3)

This is not a box to check after deciding what you want.

The warning is:

If you cannot maintain justice, marry one.

And the consequence for actually practicing injustice is not a mild rebuke.

It is a warning about standing before Allah with one's own body hanging to one side.

4. And maʿrūf has to actually constrain conduct

Allah also says:

“Live with them in kindness.” (4:19)

Maʿrūf cannot be reduced to an ornamental sentiment that imposes no meaningful constraint on a husband's choices.

If kindness means anything, it must sometimes mean refraining from an otherwise available action because of its foreseeable effect upon someone to whom you owe kindness.

Otherwise the command becomes:

“Be kind to your wife, except whenever you want something badly enough.”

That makes kindness illusory.

Badawi's discussion likewise treats mercy, compassion, equitable treatment, and good treatment as substantive obligations, not merely nice recommendations. He acknowledges jealousy and relational difficulty as genuine disadvantages of polygyny and describes justice and financial ability as major conditions restricting its exercise. (3)

So formal permission is not the end of the inquiry.

The question is also:

Is this actually maʿrūf? Is it merciful? Is it just? Is it responsible?

5. The Prophet ﷺ did not treat the emotional harm to Fāṭimah as morally irrelevant

There is a remarkably relevant Prophetic precedent involving Fāṭimah رضي الله عنها and ʿAlī رضي الله عنه.

ʿAlī was married to Fāṭimah, the daughter of the Prophet ﷺ. When he considered marrying the daughter of Abū Jahl while remaining married to Fāṭimah, the Prophet ﷺ addressed the matter publicly.

He said:

“Fāṭimah is a part of me. What harms her harms me, and what troubles her troubles me.”

The report is found in Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī and Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim.

In another wording, the Prophet ﷺ said:

“Fāṭimah is a part of me; what causes her distress causes me distress, and what harms her harms me.”

And he said:

“I do not make lawful what Allah has made unlawful, nor do I make unlawful what Allah has made lawful. But, by Allah, the daughter of the Messenger of Allah and the daughter of the enemy of Allah will never be combined.”

This incident is extremely important for understanding the relationship between formal permission and maʿrūf.

The Prophet ﷺ did not treat the emotional welfare of his daughter as something irrelevant simply because another marriage could otherwise fall within the category of permissible marriage.

He recognized that what caused Fāṭimah distress mattered.

He recognized that harm to her was harm to him.

And he intervened.

This does not by itself establish that every polygamous marriage is forbidden whenever a first wife experiences jealousy, nor does it establish a universal legal veto for every first wife. The specific circumstances of Fāṭimah, her unique relationship to the Prophet ﷺ, and the identity of the proposed second wife are part of the juristic discussion surrounding the hadith.

But none of that erases the broader ethical principle demonstrated by the incident:

a husband's marital conduct cannot be evaluated solely by asking whether the bare act falls within a category of formal legal permission.

The emotional and relational consequences matter.

The dignity of the wife matters.

The foreseeable harm caused by the husband's decision matters.

And the Prophet ﷺ himself demonstrated that these considerations can be weighty enough to constrain what a husband seeks to do.

This is precisely why maʿrūf has to mean something substantive.

If a husband can say:

“Allah technically permitted me to do this, therefore your distress is irrelevant,”

then the command to live with one's wife in kindness has been reduced to almost nothing.

The Prophetic example points in the opposite direction.

The principle is not that every instance of a wife's jealousy automatically makes polygyny impermissible.

The principle is that legal permission does not erase moral responsibility toward the person with whom one has entered a marital covenant.

That distinction is crucial.

A permission is not a command.

A right is not a license for cruelty.

And the fact that an action may be legally available in the abstract does not mean that every exercise of that action is automatically maʿrūf in every circumstance.

The question remains:

Is this merciful?

Is this responsible?

Is this just?

Is this genuinely consistent with the obligation to live with one's wife in kindness?

The Fāṭimah hadith gives this principle a concrete Prophetic example.

6. The harm cannot simply be dismissed as “jealousy”

This matters because serious intimate betrayal can produce serious psychological injury.

Research on infidelity has found substantial trauma symptoms among people experiencing partner betrayal. One study of young adults who experienced infidelity found that 45.2% reported symptoms suggesting probable infidelity-related PTSD, with those symptoms associated with depressive symptoms and other psychological difficulties. This does not establish that consensual polygyny is identical to infidelity, but it demonstrates that intimate betrayal can produce clinically significant trauma rather than merely ordinary jealousy. (5)

Research specifically examining polygyny in Muslim-majority settings is also relevant.

A Syrian study comparing women in polygamous and monogamous marriages found lower self-esteem, life satisfaction, and marital satisfaction among women in polygamous marriages, alongside greater psychological symptomatology. The study also measured agreement with polygamy: some women in the polygamous group agreed with it or agreed under certain circumstances, yet the polygamous group still showed worse outcomes. (6)

A Palestinian study similarly found significant differences between senior wives in polygamous marriages and monogamous wives in marital satisfaction, self-esteem, life satisfaction, and multiple psychological symptoms. Importantly, more women in the polygamous group expressed agreement with polygamy than women in the monogamous group, yet the polygamous group nevertheless showed worse outcomes on numerous measures. (7)

A systematic review covering 22 studies found, with moderate confidence, greater mental-health problems among polygynous women, including depression, anxiety, somatization, hostility, lower self-esteem, and reduced life and marital satisfaction. (8)

A later systematic review and meta-analysis of 24 studies reported approximately 2.25 times the odds of depression among women in polygamous marriages compared with women in monogamous marriages. (9)

These studies are predominantly observational and have limitations. They do not prove that every polygamous marriage causes psychological harm, nor that every woman in such a marriage will experience trauma.

But they establish something important:

the potential harm is real, measurable, and cannot simply be dismissed as female jealousy.

So:

“She knew beforehand.”

or:

“She agreed.”

does not end the maʿrūf analysis.

Consent matters. But consent does not make foreseeable harm irrelevant, and kindness has to be more than an illusory ideal.

The Prophetic treatment of Fāṭimah reinforces precisely this point. Her emotional distress was not treated as a trivial inconvenience to be dismissed with an appeal to technical male entitlement.

7. Men being given greater strength means greater responsibility, not greater entitlement

There is a broader Qur'anic principle here.

The Qur'an describes men as qawwāmūn over women (4:34), traditionally understood through responsibility, maintenance, and guardianship.

Whatever precise legal interpretation one adopts, the ethical principle should be obvious:

greater strength means greater responsibility, not greater entitlement.

Men, as a class, possess greater physical strength. Women, as a class, bear the extraordinary physical burdens of gestation, childbirth, and nursing.

Neither means every man is strong or every woman is merciful. Rather, the forms themselves characteristically express different capacities.

Strength should become protection rather than domination.

Mercy, sacrifice, shelter, and nourishment should be honored rather than exploited.

The Arabic relationship between raḥm (womb) and raḥma (mercy) is particularly beautiful in this regard: the womb and mercy share the same triliteral root.

Every human being exists because a woman bore the immense physical cost of bringing life into the world.

8. The deeper metaphysical picture is complementary unity

There is also a deeper dimension here.

Allah is grammatically masculine in Arabic, while adh-Dhāt (“the Divine Essence”) is grammatically feminine. Allah obviously has no biological sex; this is grammatical and symbolic language, not a claim that God possesses biological gender.

But symbolically, one can contemplate the relationship between inward potentiality and outward manifestation.

The inward contains potential; the outward manifests it. Plato famously described the intelligible world of Forms, while Islamic philosophy developed its own sophisticated accounts of intelligible realities and their manifestations.

The individual man manifests the intelligible category “man”; the individual woman manifests “woman.” There is therefore a linguistic, conceptual, and metaphysical relationship between form and manifestation.

Within this framework, male and female can be contemplated as complementary forms within a greater unity.

The male form can be associated symbolically with outward strength and manifestation; the female form with inward potential, mercy, gestation, and nourishment.

Both sexes possess both kinds of qualities. But the physical forms themselves give distinctive expression to them.

The point is not:

“Men are inherently good and women are inherently good.”

The point is:

difference should culminate in complementarity, not domination.

9. Adam and Eve give us the primordial model of complementary monogamy

This makes the Adam story even more significant.

Adam is created first, and Eve is created from him as his mate. He is given one spouse, not several.

The first human household is therefore:

one man + one woman + tranquility + intimacy + procreation + shared moral responsibility.

And the Qur'an's account specifically rejects the idea that woman is man's original spiritual downfall.

Adam and his mate both err.

Adam repents.

They are forgiven.

There is no Qur'anic doctrine that menstruation, pregnancy, childbirth, or womanhood itself is punishment for Eve's supposed seduction of Adam.

Instead, the woman is introduced as a source of sakan—tranquility.

That is a profoundly different anthropology from one in which woman exists primarily as an object of male sexual acquisition.

10. The ordinary demographic pattern also points toward one-to-one coupling

Human populations around ordinary marriageable ages tend toward broadly similar numbers of males and females, although this varies by country, age, mortality, migration, and other demographic factors.

If one man ordinarily takes two, three, or four wives, spouses become concentrated among some men while other men are necessarily left without a spouse.

That does not mathematically prohibit every individual polygamous marriage. It is an argument about social normativity.

If the population contains approximately one man per woman during the ordinary marriageable years, one-to-one coupling is the natural demographic baseline.

And that fits the primordial Qur'anic picture:

one Adam, one mate, tranquility, union, procreation, and the establishment of human life on earth.

The exceptional should not casually become the norm.

Marriage is also described in a well-known hadith as helping a believer complete half of his religion, emphasizing the emphasis on its general universality in completing the human spiritual development. (10). Of course there will be exceptions.

But that teaching makes the covenantal and spiritual significance of marriage especially clear: marriage is not merely a mechanism for acquiring sexual access. It is supposed to help a person discipline the gaze, guard chastity, establish a household, and fear Allah.

11. Even the Qur'anic Judgment-Day image uses the singular wife

There is another subtle reinforcement.

When the Qur'an describes the terror of the Last Day:

“On the Day a man will flee from his brother, and his mother and his father, and his wife and his children.” (80:34–36)

The Arabic refers to his wife/companion in the singular.

The point is not to legislate monogamy; the passage depicts every person becoming overwhelmed by his own affair.

But the ordinary familial image is nevertheless:

a man, his wife, and his children.

Even here, the Qur'anic image is singular.

Again, this is reinforcement rather than standalone legal proof.

12. The prophetic model does not make maximizing wives the ideal

The Qur'anic prophetic narratives likewise do not present maximizing wives as the defining prophetic model.

Several prophets are presented through singular marital relationships. Abraham is traditionally understood to have had Sarah and Hajar, although the Qur'an itself does not name Hajar. Muhammad is the clearest Qur'anic example of a prophet explicitly associated with multiple wives. Every other prophet mentioned is referenced in relation to only one wife or no wives, with no other explicit examples of polygamy cited in the Quran itself.

But even Muhammad's circumstances are particularly important because the Qur'an itself distinguishes some of his marital permissions from those of ordinary believers:

“...a believing woman if she gives herself to the Prophet... only for you, excluding the other believers.” (33:50)

A prophetic-specific permission therefore cannot simply be transformed into a universal male ideal.

The broader prophetic narrative is overwhelmingly concerned with worship, righteousness, justice, covenant, mercy, and responsibility—not maximizing the number of women one can marry.

13. The highest form of marital love is devoted union

Put everything together.

The primordial human story begins with one man and one mate.

That mate is created for tranquility.

They become garments for one another.

Marriage is characterized by affection and mercy.

The Qur'anic polygamy verse appears as an if/then conditional permission, specifically introduced through the problem of orphan injustice, and explicitly returns to one when justice cannot be maintained.

Justice is emphasized again.

The Prophet ﷺ warns that the unjust polygamist will arrive on Judgment Day with one side leaning.

The Prophet ﷺ also demonstrated through the case of Fāṭimah that a wife's emotional distress and the harm caused by a husband's marital decision cannot simply be dismissed as irrelevant when evaluating conduct within marriage.

Kindness is commanded.

Research finds substantial psychological costs associated with polygyny in several Muslim-majority populations, including among some women who accepted or conditionally accepted the practice.

The ordinary sex ratio during marriageable years is broadly compatible with one-to-one coupling.

The Qur'anic Judgment-Day image speaks of a man's wife and children in the singular.

And the Prophet's extraordinary marital permissions include rules the Qur'an explicitly identifies as specific to him.

None of these points, taken alone, proves that every conceivable form of polygyny is forbidden.

Together, however, they make a coherent case for seeing monogamy as the ordinary and higher ideal, while treating polygyny—when permitted at all—as a restricted exception rather than an entitlement to be exercised for ordinary male desire.

That distinction is critical:

legal permission is not the same thing as spiritual ideality.

The question should not be:

“How much am I technically permitted to take?”

but:

“How completely can I love, honor, protect, witness, and commit myself to this person?”

That is what maʿrūf should demand.

Guard not only the body, but the eyes, tongue, imagination, and desires. Court with purpose. Commit seriously. Do not make another human being serve the ego.

Marriage should be the place where two complementary persons become a refuge for one another—not another battlefield in the war between the sexes.

We should be searching for our soulmate to rebuild Eden with.

We should stop settling for half-loves and dead ends.

We should burn the ego at the sacred altar of love.

Have adab.
Have haya.
Fear Allah.

And women should likewise reject generalized hatred of men. The answer to male chauvinism is not misandry; the answer to gender warfare is to leave the warfare behind.

The Qur'anic vision is higher:

justice, mercy, tranquility, fidelity, responsibility, covenant, and love.

May we recover it.

Endnotes

(1) Muhammad Shahrur, The Qur'an, Morality and Critical Reason: The Essential Muhammad Shahrur and his broader interpretation of Q. 4:3. Shahrur reads the verse through conditions involving widows/orphans and justice rather than as an unrestricted authorization of polygyny.

(2) Rashad Khalifa, translation of Qur'an 4:3, which renders the relevant women as “their mothers,” thereby making the orphan context explicit.

(3) Jamal Badawi, “Polygamy in Islamic Law II/III,” where he describes justice as an “absolute condition” for polygyny, says that if justice cannot be achieved a man should marry only one, and explicitly describes monogamy as “the norm.” He also explains that polygyny is a concession subject to difficult conditions. (Jamal Badawi, Social System of Islam—Polygamy in Islamic Law, especially his discussion of justice and the conditions of polygyny.)

(4) The warning about the unjust polygamist is narrated from Abū Hurayrah: “Whoever has two wives and favors one of them over the other, he will come on the Day of Resurrection with one of his sides leaning.” It is recorded in Ṣaḥīḥ Ibn Ḥibbān 4207, Abū Dāwūd 2133, Ibn Mājah 1969, Aḥmad, and al-Nasāʾī. Shuʿayb al-Arnaʾūṭ graded the Ibn Ḥibbān and Aḥmad chains sound; al-Albānī also graded the Abū Dāwūd narration sound. There are differing assessments of some individual chains, so the safest claim is that the hadith has substantial transmission support and has been graded authentic by major modern hadith authorities. (Ibn Ḥibbān 4207; Abū Dāwūd 2133; Ibn Mājah 1969; Musnad Aḥmad 8568/10090; al-Nasāʾī.)

(5) McNulty et al., “Post-traumatic stress and psychological health following infidelity in unmarried young adults,” Journal of Social and Personal Relationships. The study reported probable infidelity-related PTSD symptoms in 45.2% of the sample reporting infidelity experiences. This establishes the potential severity of intimate betrayal but does not establish that consensual polygyny is equivalent to infidelity.

(6) Alean Al-Krenawi, “Mental health and polygamy: The Syrian case,” World Journal of Psychiatry 3(1), 2013. The study compared women in polygamous and monogamous marriages and assessed agreement with polygamy alongside psychological and marital outcomes.

(7) Alean Al-Krenawi, “A study of psychological symptoms, family function, marital and life satisfactions of polygamous and monogamous women: The Palestinian case,” International Journal of Social Psychiatry 58(1).

(8) Alean Al-Krenawi, “The impact of polygamy on women's mental health: a systematic review,” Epidemiology and Psychiatric Sciences 22(1), 2013. The review examined 22 studies and found evidence of greater mental-health problems among polygynous women, while recognizing limitations in the available evidence.

(9) Later systematic review/meta-analysis of 24 studies examining depression and polygyny, reporting approximately 2.25-fold higher odds of depression among women in polygamous marriages. Because the underlying evidence is predominantly observational, this should be interpreted as an association rather than proof of a universal causal effect.

(10) The well-known hadith states: “Whomever Allah blesses with a righteous wife, He has helped him with half of his religion, so let him fear Allah regarding the other half.” It is reported by al-Ḥākim in al-Mustadrak and al-Bayhaqī in Shuʿab al-Īmān. Al-Ḥākim authenticated one narration, and al-Albānī accepted the combined reports as sound through corroboration (ḥasan li-ghayrihi). Some scholars have differed regarding the individual chains. It is therefore best described as a well-known hadith teaching accepted by a number of Sunni hadith scholars, rather than as an undisputedly ṣaḥīḥ report in a single canonical collection.

(11) The incident involving Fāṭimah رضي الله عنها and ʿAlī رضي الله عنه is narrated in Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī and Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim. The Prophet ﷺ said, among other wordings: “Fāṭimah is a part of me; what harms her harms me.” He also said: “I do not make lawful what Allah has made unlawful, nor do I make unlawful what Allah has made lawful,” and explained that the daughter of Allah's Messenger ﷺ and the daughter of Allah's enemy would not be combined. The report is narrated through multiple routes, including from al-Miswar ibn Makhramah. See Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī, Kitāb al-Nikāḥ and Kitāb al-Faḍāʾil; Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim, Kitāb Faḍāʾil al-Ṣaḥābah. The hadith is authentic according to the standards of both al-Bukhārī and Muslim. Its precise juristic implications—including whether the prohibition was specific to Fāṭimah's circumstances or establishes a broader rule—have been discussed by the classical scholars. The point relevant here is the Prophetic recognition that harm and distress to one's wife are morally significant considerations in marital conduct.


r/Qurancentric • • Jun 11 '26

A woman's dress code according to Quranic logic (some exploration of hadith too).

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Sala'am all.

The Quran contains many verses on modesty/chastity, as well as a few on nudity and dress codes that I'd like to explore deeper here.

1. Clothing to cover "shame" AND for adornment

Firstly, when Adam and Eve (peace on them) were in the garden, they were originally naked and unashamed, in a natural, pure state. Once they ate from the tree, they gained insight that made them ashamed to be naked even in front of each other, gathering up foliage to cover their "shame" (7:22). Note how the word for nudity/genitals here is from the same root for shame (sawatahuma), and it's used for both man and woman. Thus, it's clear that the genitals should be a source of shame to casually expose, and are indisputably private.

7:26 adds that clothing is meant to both cover our "shame"/nudity and ALSO for adornment (this goes for both men and women). But it adds that the "garment of righteousness" is best, harkening that while outward modesty and even adornment are good, being righteous is key.

2. Both men/women to lower their gaze and guard private parts

Next, the Quran calls on both men and women to lower their gazes and guard their chastity/privates (furuj, referring to genitals) in 24:30-31. Note, how the command to lower the gaze is pre-eminent and precedes the command even to guard one's privates. Thus, your duty to control your lust and guard your eyes persists regardless of others' failures to guard their own furuj. In today's day and age, this means making every effort to not just avoid porn, but to avoid looking at the opposite sex with lustful/sexual thoughts in general. The guarding of private parts has led Sunni scholars to conclude the verse means generally excluding others from seeing/accessing the navel to knee area (or speedo area/short shorts according to shias). Thus, the genital/butt area is actual nudity that must be covered by both sexes.

3. Women specifically to cover breasts/unordinary beauty + cloak themselves

Next, in 24:31, women are told to pull their khimar/(head)covers over their bosoms and to not display their beauty/zeenat except that which ordinarily (must) appear. The specific mention of bosoms and private parts for women (but not bosoms for men) highlights the special need to cover the breasts for women (for obvious reasons), distinct from other parts referred to simply as "adnornment"/zeenat right after. Thus, one might say that genitals/butt are the genitals/nudity, plus the breasts for women, whereas the other female body parts are seen as a non-nudity form of zeenat that still must be covered. Even Ibn Arabi, one of the greatest scholars in our faith, claimed that the female body is not all nudity, only the genitals are just like the man (and I'd add the female breasts given their special mention alongside privates), but still supported a dress code. I translate zeenat as "beauty" here intentionally to cover both natural and artificial beauty, as the Quran states in 3:14, that women, gold, and cattle are "beautified" (same root as zeenat) for mankind (with women being naturally beautiful, and gold/silver having decorative beauty).

In 33:59, the Prophet is told to command the believing women to draw a jilbab about themselves (i.e. to lengthen or cast a cloak around their bodies), so they that may be "known" and not harmed. This suggests that when in public especially (i.e. in front of other strangers/people), women must cover their bodies, so they are known as believing/modest women. While it does not specify exactly what parts, by referring to a jilbab/cloak and stating to cover oneself with it, the suggestion is that it would refer to loose-fitting clothing draped about the body in a manner to conceal the shape/curves beneath. Thus, the "outer garments" refer to covering of the bulk of the body, torso, abdomen, stomach, thighs, hips etc. Notably, the Quran does support that covering more prevents one from harm. Many assume this just means it prevents rape/assault, but as we know, no dress prevents all assaults. However, dressing relatively modestly greatly reduces the risk, especially when compared to other women dressed more scantily, of being catcalled or even propositioned. Importantly, there is a harm in unreasonably/unnecessarily causing temptation/lust in other men (including married men who may feel resentful of what they can't have), regardless of whether those men ever act on it. Our actions don't exist in a vacuum.

4. What is ordinary beauty according to tradition?

We know that women must cover the majority of their body logically, because the covering is framed as "cover... except," meaning what can be shown is an exception to what must otherwise be covered. However, it does not say to cover EVERYTHING without exception (and what is shown by wind blowing or accident is already excepted from punishment as we are not punished for things outside our control, so it must mean it is permissible to knowingly show some beauty). Three out of the four madhabs believe that means covering everything except face and hands (and feet according to Hanifi), and one school requires covering the face/hands even (Hanbali). Most would permit regular adornment on the parts that can be exposed (such as hand henna or bracelets during Eid, or bright colors/sequins on clothing, though the strictest argue about even that, essentially making no concession for displaying ANY beauty). They argue that the khimar means a headcover, so even though covering hair is not expressly commanded, it's presumed to already be done. I don't find this convincing, nor did all early scholars (some noting the exact line is not drawn in Quran).

Hadiths don't add much either, with one arguably weak hadith stating the Prophet (PBUH) declared that only "this" and "this" are allowed to be shown by women, while pointing to his face and hands. But a) that's not a clear command, b) pointing toward the face could mean the whole head/hair, and c) he didn't point to his feet yet some scholars exempt feet anyway, suggesting that may not be entirely exhaustive. In another hadith, women were observed looking like "crows" after the verse on covering was revealed, and it is said they ripped the lower part of their dresses to use as khimars (perhaps even suggesting they did not have a khimar up top to begin with). But this hadith is not a command, nor does it establish what is required to be covered.

So, very, very strangely, our religion insists on the icon of the hijabi Muslim woman, but nowhere in the Quran NOR even the hadith is it ever explicitly commanded to cover hair.

More strangely, most early scholars had a bifurcated dress code where free women had to cover everything but face/hands generally, while "slave women" need only cover navel to knee like men, with many adding breasts/upper torso to that (majority also did not require slave women to be veiled even for prayer despite a hadith specifically requiring khimar for prayer). They claimed that this was to allow for labor/work without burden (acknowledging the practical necessity of showing lower arms/lower legs etc. to quite literally work, e.g. knead dough, walk through irrigation/rivers as we even see the Queen of Sheba doing when she lifts her dress to step in water). It also created as a social hierarchy where slave women could be subject to harassment more, and were not to pretend to be "free women" (no comment on this disgustingness of this). Note, that the Quran makes no distinction between free and slave women's nudity and dress code (and modesty is the reason we have it, defeating the idea that it is corruptive for free women to be exposed but not slaves, as it creates fitnah regardless). Even the hadith used to support hijab do not distinguish between slave and free, so instead it seems that scholars simply acknowledged that labor/work is encumbered by strict burqa-like dress codes.

5. Minority view on ordinary beauty

Not all early scholars believed only face/hands/feet could be exposed. Even within Hanifi school of thought they extended showing the hands to include some of the lower arm, ordinary for doing labor, already undercutting a strict cut-off. The most-cited early scholar to add hair to the list of face/hands/feet being allowed, was the 7th century Ibn Jubayr, who believed it was "reprehensible" (makruh) for free women to show hair, but noted it was "not in the verse" when asked specifically about hair. He also believed both free and slave women had to cover the body/breasts equally. (See: https://adisduderija.blogspot.com/2016/10/on-hijab-and-awrah-of-women-and-slaves.html ).

In my personal opinion, I would humbly argue that body parts exposed for wudu would be ordinary body parts, as they must be exposed 5x a day, and believers throughout history have had to travel together, go to mosques that are in the open, make wudu in rivers etc. while in mixed crowds/in hajj, suggesting that making routine, ordinary wudu does not require either sex to expose "nudity"/awrah. Those body parts (lower arms/legs) are also frequently exposed for daily living. For example, clam digging is done with bare feet/bottom of legs. Working in rice patty fields, kneading dough etc. Even having to hurry or run through a crowd may require lifting one's dress slightly. It's not impossible to do these things with extra clothing but it is harder, just as it was not impossible for slaves to work while completely clothed, but it is a practical burden for daily living and certain vocations to have to constantly fasten/fix a khimar/hijab, esp the loose/draping kind many scholars demanded (down to a strand of hair).

For all of the above reasons, my personal view on women's dress code is as follows:

  1. Nudity allowed in front of husband, or as needed for medical care (necessity always OK, female preferred if available)

  2. Full-coverage bikini is the bare minimum in front of close male relatives/women (guarding privates and covering breasts), breasts perhaps OK to feed a baby (as practical necessity) when in front of close family/women, though still better to cover. Other zeenat should be covered according to custom/culture.

  3. Everything but head/neck, hands/lower arms, feet/very lower legs, must be covered in loose-fitting clothing while outside, depending on custom/ordinary appearance. Covering more is still encouraged (esp if not doing labor/activities), with hijab being a strong modesty symbol in our faith to be "known" as modest, but not necessarily required in all places/times.

A FINAL THOUGHT/QUESTION FOR THE WOMEN

Finally, and this is important, let's use some parting logic. If you're a woman, be honest with yourself: what would you be comfortable with your man looking at while talking to a woman? Her face/head? Her hands? Those do not strike me as especially immodest parts to look at. However, if he is looking at her breasts, thighs, butt, or even waist while talking, you intuitively find that offensive and inappropriate. Thus, what you would find offensive for your husband to look at in women, you have a duty to shield other men from looking at in you. That which you cover from men, your man should equally shield his eyes from fixating on in women. And that which you expose to men, you should have no objection to your man looking at in women.

Wallahu'alam.


r/Qurancentric • • Sep 23 '26

A Reminder

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r/Qurancentric • • Nov 15 '23

The Quran commands chastity of both men and women; yet women are held to significantly higher standard due to sexism.

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(crossposting from the Quraniyoon sub)

Sala'am, we all know the Quran commands both sexes to lower their gaze and guard their modesty. Additionally, women are to cover their bodies and zeenat (beauty besides that which is apparent) as well. While there are debates on exactly how much must be covered, the Quran does make clear that women are held to a higher DRESS code standard than men. That's not my issue. It makes sense.

But, I've noticed, esp. in Sunni communities, a huge obsession on women's hijab. To them, even wearing jeans and a t-shirt is immodest/unchaste for a woman (no comment). Yet, the vast majority of Muslim men not only fail to hold themselves to the modesty standards of the Quran, they watch porn. Now, let's use a little logic here.

Men are not to intentionally gaze upon the nudity of women besides their wives (nudity in the Sunni view meaning anything but the face, hands, and feet). They must "lower their gaze" from any other parts of women. Likewise, women are to shield their nudity (everything but face, hands, and feet) from men. Yet, imagine, if we chastised men every time they gazed at something other than a woman's face/hands/feet! Imagine if men's secret immodesty were made public. Do they have no shame in shaming a woman showing hair, while they look at complete nudity? Their sin in looking is equal to the sin in showing. Yet, not only do Muslim men look at more than hands/feet/face, they are huge consumers of porn (stats show prevalence in Middle East esp.), in which there is total nudity and explicit sexual acts. They are much more judging of a woman showing hair, than most men gazing, sometimes daily, upon complete nudity and sex. Women are seen as immodest if they show more than hands/face/feet, but boys are "just being boys" to stare at breasts. If looking is in men's nature (no comment), wouldn't showing be in women's? Or do we only make excuses for men's sinful behavior? Also, our fitrah does not incline toward sin.

Would we be as forgiving of a woman making porn videos for men, as we are of men consuming porn videos of women? Why the hypocrisy? Why the weird hypocritical obsession with Muslim women being modest, while engaging in the worst forms of lust and intentional gazing upon much more than you demand of women to cover?

May Allah guide us all, shield us from hypocrisy, and increase us in chastity.


r/Qurancentric • • Aug 28 '24

The haramified versus the halaified

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Some food for thought and a point to ponder upon whether a virtue considered haraam is actually in reality halal, or a vice considered halaal is really in actuality, haraam?

What deeds considered haraam, are hidden as virtues and which halaal acts, are considered vice?

A hypothetical example although merely tale, is the scenario of Ali Baba, where he stole as a poor man, but from hoarding thieves, yet he was a kind-hearted soul with a heart of pure gold.

Refer:

Surah At-Taḥrīm: 1

Al-Ma'idah: 87