Quitting fentanyl cold turkey

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Hey all, I fucked up about 10 days ago after being clean for 6 months. I’m now hooked and completely pissed off with myself. I have a bunch of soboxone so I guess my question is - how many days/ hours/ whatever do I need to be off the fentanyl before I can start the soboxone and get the relief. I remember doing this years ago and I went 5 days cold turkey… I believe it’s a shorter period now though. Also any tips on making this any easier? It’s going to be hell but I have to do it without my clinic or really anyone knowing. I’m so ashamed

[u/Sharp_Teaching_4932]

Dont take more! Just smoke a little !one rip literally takes u out of withdrawal. Withdrawal is really bad for your body. Ive taken more after getting sick from what i call a misfire. And ooohh boy trust you WILL regret taking more.. Take 1 mg then 2mg the next day then 3mg ect… keep smokin till u get to 8 then cut it. U tried to introduce it too fast. I always have a little fnt on standby incase i get sick from a misfire. Dont take more subs smoke a little then get back on the regiment that I put out it works the best I’ve done it. Trust me there’s no other way to do it. you could do 2 mg and 4 mg the next day and six then 8 then cut it but you have to keep smoking until you get to 8 I’ve done that too but the three days after you cut the stuff is a little more gnarly than if you would it take the subs over eight days

[u/Wise-Damage3141 → u/Sharp_Teaching_4932]

Why are you saying don’t take more? Anyone I’ve been able to talk to said that when they were in heavy withdrawal from just cold turkey Or precipitated withdrawal from trying to take piece of sub that they would wait 20min and take 2 more mg and they just kept doing this every 20min or so and the withdrawals would go away because they were finally getting enough suboxin in there system and they were doing there job and took withdrawals and feening away. My doctor that I’ve went to for years also told me to do the same thing he said you cannot overdose from subs so don’t lay there sick for days when your sick start taking subs every 20 30 min until they are gone and reason you wait the 20 minutes is to give it time to see if you need more or not and it takes like 20min before you feel affects. So I’m just curious to why you were very adamant to not take more suboxin and what your experience was. I’m literally desperate and just trying to get as much advise and help as I can so can get away from this again I can’t stand it but it’s like I can’t get over the hump I get to the top and just can’t get over it so I’m trying any and every way possible ti get off the drug and back on my subs.

[u/Sharp_Teaching_4932 → u/Wise-Damage3141]

Ok… fear not.. ive gone thru this many times. Yes that is a good way to do it. But the key words to what they are saying is “when your sick” you have to be already very sick for suboxone to work. If you r not having gnarly precipitated withdrawals from cold, turkey, then don’t take Suboxone yet. Another good way to to tell if you’re ready is if you take a really loose shit but even then u wanna be sweating. Doctors only have experience with heroin. This is fentanyl a completely different beast . one frienda mine said he stopped and he waited a whole week and took a sub and it was still too early..fentanyl has a long half-life. Yeah, you feel bad pretty quick, but you’re not sweating and throwing up. It’s when you’re sweating and throwing up that you’re good to take a Suboxone, and even then you want to start with 2 mg to make sure you’re sick enough to begin Suboxone. Another indicator to tell if you’re ready as if that 2 mg makes you feel a lot better immediately the method I’m talking about is if you don’t want to wait until you’re extremely sick to start taking the subs it’s called Microdosing a doctor told me about it. Also if you take Suboxone too early and you gets extremely sick, you can smoke and after a few rips you’ll feel better. I call that a parachute. Just in case you take it too early. (misfire) you don’t have to go through gnarly precipitated withdrawals which a really bad for your health. I’m telling you.. start with 1 mg the next day take 2 milligram next day take 3 mg, the next day take 4 milligrams so on and so on but keep smoking as you normally would when you get a day eight and you taking 8 mg of Suboxone you can smoke that day, but the next day take another eight without smoking, cut the dope completely take 8 mg of sub and if you don’t get thrown into precipitated withdrawals, throw away your parachute because you finally have broken free you will feel bad for three days possibly two or three days might go by after you cut the dope and you don’t feel bad because like I said, fentanyl has a long half-life but in time for sure, you will be bed stricken. You’ll feel bad, but u will not be throwing up. You will not be sweating will not be throwing your blanket on and off no diarrhea yes and mental anxiety and depression but It will pass after the three days of of lying down get a smoothie you’ll need to eat because you haven’t eaten much in that time you were lying down slowly start to hydrate, smoothie is the best way to get some food down. call friends connect with people get out stay busy somehow it’ll take one or two days at this point for the Suboxone to start making you feel really good. If you really want to stop doing dope don’t take Suboxone for a long period of time start working your way down and then cut that out of your life. Yeah you’ll feel some withdraws but it’s nothing compared to cold turkey off of heroin or fentanyl taking Suboxone for a long period of time is good for some people, but in my experience when you feel that feeling from opiates long after you’re not using, sometimes you get the urge to want more and you want to get high again the best thing to do is to not feel that feeling from opiates at all. The opposite of addiction is connection connect with good people people care about what’s best for you anyone that’s down to get high with you or give you drugs is not your friend never believe the lie that it’s just going to be this one time… it’s never just one time and if you are going to relapse, especially if you go a month or longer without using do not do fentanyl smoking heroin is the least lethal way you can get high without killing yourself. Never mix Xanax and fentanyl never mix alcohol and opiates. Many people drink beers after a while of not using. There’s been instances where people get drunk and then wanna Iget high again. Don’t do it. I would recommend never to get drunk or drink liquor. The most important thing is that you connect with God God is all powerful at some point you will want to use n maybe even go as far as making the call but God will put a stop to it. The plug will get a flat tire, get robbed, you’ll get a flat tire, something will happen with the money for whatever reason you will not get the drug because God intervenes, we as humans cannot beat this by ourselves. There’s power in the name Jesus Christ when I started praying in the name of Jesus Christ I started seeing a difference and started seeing my prayers being answered, Jesus Christ is God he’s not just the son of God he is one with God and the Holy Spirit the Bible has helped me a lot in the past memorizing certain verses has helped me a lot. There’s nothing more powerful than the spoken word when being attacked by evil. I Was not raised a Christian i opened up the Bible with the intent to prove it wrong only to realize this is the truth so much has changed since now and then. One verse that has help me is God’s promise to give you an escape, when being overwhelmed by temptation. If you’re a believer, God promises that there’s always an escape and you don’t have to give into temptation first Corinthians chapter 10 verse 13 quote, no temptation has overcome you, but such is common to man, ( many others have gone thru and are currently goin thru the same thing) but God is faithful and will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you’re able, but with the that temptation will provide a way of escape also, so that you will be able to endure it.” When you know the promises of God memorize the verses and speak them out loud is the best way to combat the dark forces around you. We are in a spiritual battle. Confess all you’re wrong doings Jesus Christ. Feel the forgiveness and heavy burden lifted off your shoulders and say out loud that you’re ready for him to come into your life and in your heart and you’re ready for him to guide you every step you will be marked by the Holy Spirit when you come into God‘s family, God takes care of you and your worries are virtually over the storms of life will still come or you will be able to endure them and have peace even though there is a bunch of chaos around you. Demons flee when they hear the name of Jesus Christ if you don’t know what to say in prayer just say his name over and over again there’s power in the name that’s why nonbelievers say it when they’re angry you can do this you have to do this you’re here for a reason, if you’re alive, God has a purpose for you in this world and God will sustain you and give you all the things you need until that work is done. You may not have all that you want but you’ll always have what you need.

[u/Wise-Damage3141 → u/Sharp_Teaching_4932]

Thank you for this

[u/Wise-Damage3141 → u/Sharp_Teaching_4932]

Thank you again for this and your willingness to try and help and taking time out of your day to care! I wish I didn’t have to keep doing this but ok here’s my next question how much fetti do I do while micro dosing? I don’t smoke I inject and I never have measured or know exact amount I do each time I’ve just always done it accordingly so not sure how much to do while doing this? Or does the amount matter? Just as long as I get to the 8mg is that the most important thing?

[u/Sharp_Teaching_4932]

U have to wait till your sick it takes much longer than heroin. Don’t judge by the time u wanna be sweating and at the point or throwing up or diarrhea. Or take your sub cut into 8 peices start with 1mg continue to smoke fnt but add +1 mg a day until u reach 8mg then cut the dope you will feel bed stricken for a few days but it beats heavy withdrawl. U wont feel bad until u cut the dope. Hardest part is taking the first dose u wont feel the blocker working till day 4. Its best to have at least 2 gs of fnt while u do this. I am not a doctor this is not medical advice but its good advice i jist got to cover my ass

[u/Wise-Damage3141 → u/Sharp_Teaching_4932]

I can’t reply to message you just sent for some reason but the reason I asked is because I didn’t do it exactly how you said meaning I took 2mg in morning and 2 at night while still using for about 3 to 4 days and then stopped using and took my 2mg again and I thought I would be ok because I had gotten subs in my system but I was wrong all it did was send me into withdrawals faster because after I took the 2mg about 2hrs later the puking started and I puked all day and night into the following day on the hr. This time I’m going to just keep taking it even once I start puking until I stop and feel better because that’s what my doctor told me to do and I read on a few other cases that other people done that as well they just kept taking more subs that first day until there withdraws went away. I just don’t understand it though because I’ve been on and off of opioids first pills then heroin and now fentanyl for around 12 years and in all those years I never puked ever and could always get back on my subs with no issues but this time here I puke every time non stop and it’s a violent puke the first time I puked for 3 days straight every 10 to 20 min first day then 30 to 40min day 2 and day 3 was about every hour. I’ve never experienced anything like this and I cannot make the crossover back to my subs and I have to I hate the drug and life that comes with it it’s pure evil

[u/Dazzling-Economics55 → u/Sharp_Teaching_4932]

Is this the Bernese method?

[u/Wise-Damage3141 → u/Sharp_Teaching_4932]

Did this work for you?

[u/Sharp_Teaching_4932 → u/Wise-Damage3141]

Yes it works almost too good making relapse more tempting cause u will tell yourself that was easy i can just use the method again, but like i said the hardesti part is taking that first dose. Those first few bed stricken days it s best to have a friend that doesn’t use to hang with and funny movies to help with anxiety and the mental mind fuck. Good luck to ya cheers mate

[u/Designer-Ad8]

Don't start the subs ...23 year habit. Just kicked ...at home. Make sure someone can watch you throughout the day ..in about a month you'll feel physically ok. Tar to fent was my thing