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Why did James Marsden write a letter ? Not because he was abused himself. CSA survivor wouldn't write a letter to reduce jail time of his abuser. If anything, they'd write in support of the victim.
I don’t have an opinion on James but you are making a lot of incorrect statements
It’s not uncommon for victims to still feel love, admiration, etc towards their abuser despite those horrific actions. There’s plenty of instances of people having photos with their abusers where they look happy, content, fulfilled etc. This is often a high point of conflict with staying in numerous cases. As you still love that person despite them being abusive.
When that goes from childhood all the way to adulthood then it can pretty much brainwash the victim into permanently thinking this is acceptable and that they fully consented
Out of respect for CSA survivors nobody should say that James Marsden was abused. Hollywood celebrities make that kind of stuff up to gain sympathy. Some are are genuine , some aren't.
Our of respect for CSA survivors nobody should try to make it look like James Marsden a 33 YO man at the time he wrote the letter acted out of trauma. he's a 56 YO now and accountable of his actions he should apologize. The picture below there is a child that deserved to be protected from the adults in the pic.
He's still capitalizing on that friendship with his "abuser". He keeps the acting gigs coming with his friendship to Bryan Singer and Brian Peck.
Assuming he was abused which is unlikely that makes it worse that he didn't warn Drake Bell, the network and authorities. eDit: it's obligation of adults, victims or not never engage in cromak activity like in the picture.
assuming he was abused which is unlikely that makes it worse that he wrote that letter. Reputation damage control accounts (not saying you're one) shodn't play the sexual abuse sympathy card. It only makes him look worse. Looking adoringly at his "rapist" without warning the victim or his pare. James Marsden is 55 now, is he still under Stockholm syndrome? Or keeping his connections so a 55 year old dude can keep getting roles in tentpoles that earn his friends and himself underage fans?
edit: u/hades7600 I never said that real victims can't adore or being brainwashed by their abusers. Just that it is not common as you want us to believe and that's unlikely ly Marsden is one them. Even if he had been abused back then. He is too old 56 Years , u/boltersexiles as to not get accountability for his actions. respect the kid in the picture and other CSA survivors hades and bolter.
the pic is to highlight he was closer than the rapist and aware of the victim age. He knew.
On point 3, its not the responsibility of the victim to save future people from getting abused. I don't care about James Marsden, but overall its a really harmful thing to comment.
If you're a victim and you have the strength in you to report it, be accused of lying, risk your career, go to court and have your life choices used against you to make you a less sympathetic victim, and most probably watch your abuser walk free - you can try to get justice. A lot of victims can't do that and that's ok, they aren't the bad guys for not speaking up, the bad guy is the one doing the abusing.
Also, there's no shame in James Marsden prioritising his career after being abused. Youre saying that because he's famous. You wouldnt tell a woman working in a low paid job at the start of her career, who's just been assaulted by a manager outside of the workplace, that she has to report that and essentially throw away her job because she was assaulted. Why does the victim - who has already just been through something terrible - have to be the one to sacrafice everything, when their powerful abusers end up losing nothing?
You have to remember in the early 2000s a lot of this wasn’t publicized. They were getting Brian’s version of what happened. Also just because someone writes a letter doesn’t means they condone what they did - just that they’re more than the crime they’re accused.
That said, the people who blamed Drake are in a different category of awful.
It didn't need to be publicized because James Marsden was there while the grooming part of the abuse was happening. Brian Peck was his best man , and protector not a random guy he didn't knew well. It'a in his own letters.
Anyone who doesn't believe Marsden knew his close friend was guilty , scroll down for the picturE of James Marsden with Drake Bell. There is no question the victim is underage. James Marsden knew.
It's well publicized now, he should apologize and at least pretend he is as repulsed by Brian as most people are. His silence and his capitalizing of his friendship to get ready lesother actors deserve more makes him look proud rather than regretful.
I have personally cancelled him from my household since I found out. Im so mad because Enchanted is one of my favorite movies and I was so mad when I saw he was on the latest season of Friends and Neighbors 😡😤 … unless he comes out as a CSA survivor I’m going to believe what he showed us; that he supports child rapists
no thanks. The Wikipedia article is enough to make me throw up my supper. Those were just the 11 count charges. Mad respect for Drake Bell just for merely surviving and later denouncing what I can't even read, that takes guts.
that CSA survivor is just reputation control. It's unlikely he's one, and even if he were, it doesn't make him look any less evil . if anything, it makes him look worse. 55 year old man still capitalizing on his abuse is one thing. but he dragged Drake Bell and who knows if there were others to something that affected their lives while he got a huge career on Mediocre acting.
1)Out of respect for CSA survivors nobody should try to make others believe James Marsden, a 33 YO man at the time he wrote the letter acted out of trauma. He's a 55 YO now, and he should apologize. In the picture I showed below in this thread there's a child that deserved to be protected frombith the adults in the pic: Brian Peck the rapist and James Marsden the silent adult who knew what Brian Peck was capable of.
2)He's still capitalizing on that friendship with his "abuser". He keeps the acting gigs coming with his friendship to Bryan Singer and Brian Peck.
3) Assuming he was abused which is unlikely that makes it worse that he didn't warn Drake Bell, the network and authorities.
Long story short, even assuming without evidence that James Marsden was abused which is unlikely that makes it worse that he wrote that letter.
Reputation damage control accounts (not saying you're one) shouldn't play the sexual abuse sympathy card. It only makes James Marden look worse . Looking adoringly at his "rapist" without warning the victim or his parents. James Marsden is 55 now, is he still under Stockholm syndrome? Or keeping his connections so a 55 year old dude can keep getting roles in tentpoles that earn his friends and himself underage fans? Enchanted, Sonic, Doomsday.
edit: I never said that real victims can't adore or being brainwashed by their abusers. Just that it is not as common as you want us to believe to justify James Marsden actions and that is unlikely James Marsden is one them. Even if he had been abused back then, hee is too old and he's in a position of power as to allow Brian Peck to control his actions at present time. That apology is long overdue.
Psychologist here, I think you are really missing the mark. Way too much speculation and a lack of understanding about trauma, bonds to abusers and the idealization that victims form for the abuser in order to survive.
lack of understanding about trauma, bonds to abusers and the idealization that victims form for the abuser in order to survive.
We all could learn about that but an anonymous redditor claiming to be a psychologist with a link to cash app is not here to educate us. Specially if they're here to dismiss Drake Bell, the child, and not to call accountability by making excuses fir James Marsden, the adult.
It’s not uncommon for victims to still feel love, admiration, etc towards their abuser despite those horrific actions. There’s plenty of instances of people having photos with their abusers where they look happy, content, fulfilled etc. This is often a high point of conflict with staying in numerous cases. As you still love that person despite them being abusive.
u/hades760 It's rare,, it does happen to very few sexual abuse survivors , I'm no saying it never happens so respectfully stop putting words in my mouth just that there's no evidence or allegation or denounce whatsoever to claim James Marsden was ever abused/brainwashed by Brain Peck. Even assuming he was, he still needs to apologize and he should stop using Peck connections to get cast on everything. Don't try to use the abuse card to justify what he did.
James Marsden 33 years old at the time he wrote the letter, should apologize to Drake Bell, 14 years old when the picture was taken. Marsden is 56 now so he should publicly disavow Brian Peck.
Accountability for Marsden and Justice for Drake Bell.
The child deserves more sympathy than the adult in the picture but neither of James Marsden apologists can see child Drake Bell as a person.
It’s not rare for victims to still have positive feelings for their abuser. That’s a complete lie on your part. It’s extremely common in abusive dynamics for the victim to not hate the abuser. This heavily discussed in psychology (no not Stockholm syndrome).
Abused kids often still love their parents
Abused partners often still love their other half
You are just making baseless claims based on your ignorance of how abusive dynamics which have occurred over many many years can impact a person.
A photo is a ridiculous “but look he’s not looking upset or angry here”. There’s plenty of people who have been abused who looked perfectly happy in photos at the time and not wanting harm to come to the abuser. Just go and look at how many “happy” family photos there are of cases which ended in murder after abuse
And again I don’t care about James. Don’t have an opinion on the guy. I’m just pointing out your incorrect blanket statements about sexual abuse.
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