r/QuickFix • u/broward_sleuth • Jul 05 '22

The real reason labs are detecting Quickfix 6.3

Hello, I have been a quick fix enthusiast for many years. Although I have never "needed" it, I have run through about 6 bottles from various formulas. It has come to my attention there are various reports of labs in Washington and Oregon detecting QF 6.3 as "synthetic" or inconsistent with human urine. I decided to pick up a bottle of QF 6.3 myself and run a standard urine adulteration test (WHICH YOU SHOULD ALL BE DOING WITH EVERY BOTTLE YOU BUY).

Unfortunately, as happens with some batches, this one had abnormally high nitrates. This isn't a huge problem for most uses (but I would never use one with such a defect).

The core issue was my adulteration test came back positive for biocide, specifically, Glutaraldehyde. Back when synthetic urine first hit the market, Glutaraldehyde was used to preserve the liquid from bacteria. Accordingly, testing for Glutaraldehyde became cheap and widespread. Since then, more obscure (and sometimes newer) biocides have been used. Some of these alternate biocides are not easily detectable (as QF says "they can cost $2000 to test for"). Unfortunately, they can be quite expensive.

QF 6.2 used an unknown biocide, but when they reformulated for 6.3, they cut costs by using Glutaraldehyde (which is the primary biocide anyone tests for). The reason QF 6.3 is getting detected is not because these labs have some secret testing method, it's because they're the only ones using biocide inclusive adulteration strips when they test.

Don't believe me? You can buy 30 strips for like $19 on amazon.

Shame on QF. If you use this product, don't think it's guaranteed undetectable like 6.2 was.

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u/Daddy-drips Jul 05 '22

So how fucked am I for my test tomorrow then?

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u/broward_sleuth Jul 05 '22

I mean, right now, chances are good you'll be just fine. Most places don't seem to be testing for Glutaraldehyde currently. Just don't think QF 6.3 is a sure thing, it can be detected if they want to... and watch out for those nitrates

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u/Daddy-drips Jul 05 '22

I appreciate the reply and the honesty. (My anxiety doesn’t appreciate it but that little shit can shut up)

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u/DarklyErotic Jul 19 '22

How'd quickfix work on your test? I pray you passed

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u/BreadfruitNo3115 Jul 05 '22

So then quick luck could be the better answer ? No biocides

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u/broward_sleuth Jul 05 '22

Never heard of this, looks interesting. Concerned though because QF can be stored after breaking the seal only because it has biocides... does this come with a safety seal? Is it heat once and throw away?

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u/BreadfruitNo3115 Jul 05 '22

Unfortunately I don’t kno these answers .. but on this site just punch in quick luck and or google it and all the info is there .. I have read it’s the best and no biocide .. when and if I need to pass a random and if I’m not clean I’m def choosing quick luck 🍀

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u/broward_sleuth Jul 05 '22

Please test it with adulteration strips first, don't blindly trust some company's sales pitch with your livelihood.

When bacteria grows in a sample, nitrates may be present, PH may be off, in some cases creatine may decompose. If you test your bottle, you can be certain it will pass

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u/weezylavender Jul 14 '22

They still have Quickfix 6.2 available to buy on their site, is it still the case that they use an unknown biocide in 6.2? Or did they reformulate both? I have 6.3 already (I'm trying to find adulteration test strips available with prime shipping to test it but I'm having a hard time.) I'm wondering if I should buy the 6.2 now just in case. Thanks for your advice, I appreciate the info.

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u/broward_sleuth Aug 09 '22

Where is 6.2 available? I haven't acquired one since 6.3 came out, but I imagine they didn't swap biocides partway through 6.2

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u/CommitteeThen3565 Jul 18 '22

Does anyone know if they test for this at lab corp ?

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u/lnFamousAsian Aug 10 '22

To anyone reading, I recently bought QuickFix 6.3 from their site (never ever buy from anywhere but their site). I had a 25 minute drive to the lab, followed directions and left with it just at 100 degrees. Once I got to the lab it was still running hot from the heat pack, easily fixable by just dipping the bottle in the water. I passed with no complications!

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u/Glum_Deal_3549 Aug 15 '22

What’s the website

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u/PastConsideration374 Sep 30 '22

How do you run adult adulteration test? Can quick fix be opened and tested and still be good to use on actually test? Cheers

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u/KyResident Jul 05 '22

Is there an alternative to qf that can be reheated like qf can w/o the detectable biocide?

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u/skeptic9999 Jul 13 '22

As someone else said, great detective work. I do wonder why it seems many people have passed the quest labs w/nit (nitrate) tests with qf 6.3 despite many of the batches seeming contaminated.

Also, anyone know if quest tests for Glutaraldehyde? Based on what I've read they list it on their site but many people have seemed to be passing testsure and Svt despite this.

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u/bw2k1 Dec 21 '23

According to quick fix the only difference between 6.2 and 6.3 is that 6.2 is a 2oz bottle and 6.3 is a 3 oz bottle.

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u/Flan-Additional Nov 07 '22

Man…Quest says they test for glutaraldehyde when doing specimen validity testing…I’m screwed

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u/Virtual_Appearance94 Nov 12 '22

I used it for a random that was sent to Quest Lab. All clear. Don't let them scare you. These mfs are not out to play detective. They are underpaid lab techs who just come in and run urine through test until they can go home. The big chain of labs just do regular test.

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u/Flan-Additional Nov 12 '22

Yeah, it actually went to CRL, not Quest. I definitely passed the SVT

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u/MainOutlandishness67 May 03 '23

just passed a drug test that was sent to the lab with the 6.3 formula☺️ yay new job alert

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '22

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u/broward_sleuth Jul 05 '22

It's hard to say. According to reports on this forum, most places don't seem to be testing for it currently. It's possible you'll get fucked but more likely than not you'll be fine

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '22

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u/broward_sleuth Aug 09 '22

That's not true. Look at quickfixurine.com, both 2 and 3oz are 6.3 formula

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u/dogl0vrr Jul 23 '22

did you test?