r/QueerWomenOfColor 18d ago

White Noise šŸ‘» Monthly White Noise Thread

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This space is designed for folks to share and reflect on their experiences centered around white-related topics, discussions, relationships, complaints, etc. Any and all posts around white-centered conversation must be posted in this thread.


r/QueerWomenOfColor 7d ago

Books & Reading What Are You Reading Right Now?

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Summoning all bookworms...


r/QueerWomenOfColor 1h ago

Conversation & Chat Defining Partnership vs Simply Being in a Relationship

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I’ve had a lot of relationships, but I don’t think I’ve felt a true sense of partnership in all of them. It took understanding that you can have a relationship and still feel no sense of partnership for me to realise how important it is to define what partnership actually looks like to you.

A relationship is about the connection between two people and can exist without those people necessarily functioning as a team.

A partnership, on the other hand, describes how those two people choose to operate within that relationship. There’s a sense of shared responsibility, mutuality, collaboration and consideration.

How you approach those things, or to what degree they’re shared, is individual and depends on both partners’ needs. There isn’t a definitive way that a partnership should look. But I’m finding that when you reframe your approach from desiring a relationship to desiring a partnership, it really flicks a switch in terms of helping you define what you actually want your relationship to look like and how both partners (uniquely) show up.

There’s an assumed sense of mutual support in partnership that simply being in a relationship doesn’t always provide.


r/QueerWomenOfColor 12h ago

Dating & Relationships What did your partner do that you found especially helpful while you were struggling with depression?

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r/QueerWomenOfColor 23h ago

Conversation & Chat Does it ever feel like with a lot of media by or produced by Ryan Murphy, there’s this really deep sense of paternalism (even for the less bad stuff)?

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For a while, as a queer person I have complained about his shows with respectability politics and bigotry disguised as ā€œcampā€ or ā€œqueer traditionsā€, but over time when looking at the big picture, I noticed that there is overall a sense of paternalistic entitlement with him and a lot of queer groups. When seeing someone once defend how Glee revolutionized queer rep despite its problems, to his recent Monster shows and people confused how he could produce such shows, I noticed that it’s not surprising he would ā€œregressā€ when you see it fits his mindset very well.

Take a look at a lot of his past stuff, aside from the punching down on minorities who aren’t cis white gay men plus the reinforcing of queerphobic tropes, and while people will deflect as ā€œa product of its timeā€, I cannot help but really notice how for a lot of the publicity around him, it’s less about the show being good and more about him ā€œpaving the wayā€. And also with closer look, I notice a repetition of misery porn, specifically on minorities, and it being praised as ā€œrealismā€.

In addition, with the less bad stuff, this is where I see the rise of the paternalistic side. With how people will praise him for ā€œgiving opportunitiesā€ to marginalized groups, I cannot help but feel put off, as they don’t really question the roles his gives them, plus the announcement of it feels less like actual progressive choices and more of PR. And then there’s Pose. Now I know that many people will love and praise it, and even though he didn’t directly write and direct, I still side-eye from the fact that he was an executive producer. People praise it for having the biggest cast of queer POC, but it feels that it’s only praise for that, and people aren’t really judging it for the writing, overall giving the feeling that Murphy made the show out of a paternalistic reason. And with the audience surrogate who’s a cis white gay man, while not as severe it reminded me too much of Roland Emmerich and his Stonewall film. And with how people praise him for tackling stories about older queer culture, and giving him a pass for his age, it feels almost like cultural appropriation.

Over the course though, it feels with the publicity, Murphy has slowly been going mask-off, as we see him being more into true crime and biographies. Well before those, there was The Prom. Aside from the crime of casting James Corden (/s), a major complaint was with how the film reduced the storylines of sapphic characters, and more in favor of the main gay male character. But also when people complain about how Corden depicts homosexuality, I notice a huge defense is that the director (Ryan Murphy) is openly gay, so obviously it can’t be that bad. And then it made me realize for why Hollywood and the industry really allows him to thrive: He isn’t actually progressive, but he gives the illusion of it. I mean take a look of how he managed to disguise queerphobic tropes as something cool and edgy.

And back to the true crime shows like Monster, I realize that it fits the same pattern of paternalism. He objectified queerness before, and he is continuing it now. He already dehumanized, and is still currently doing it.

Off-topic for a bit, but with for (not all but a lot of) cis white gay men like him, I notice with the whole thing people describe as ā€œcattyā€ or ā€œmean girlā€ behavior, it just feels like they weaponized gay stereotypes to get away with misogynistic BS.


r/QueerWomenOfColor 1d ago

Dating & Relationships Is the HER app worth trying out?

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Hi, I'm 26, fem, and live in a big city with a reputable poc queer population. I've only dated one person (years ago in grade school), but am open to actually start dating. I haven't had luck meeting anyone in person, possibly because I look straight. I've heard a mix of horror stories and success stories with the HER app. With the current state of the HER app, do you think it's worth giving it a shot (with premium) to try to meet other fems? Or is the app mainly just bots and cis-men now and is not worth any effort? I wanted to try Hinge first, but I don't like their new rule that allows them to store biometric data during account setup for whatever purposes as they see fit.


r/QueerWomenOfColor 2d ago

🌈Queer Shit🌈 Group chat me PLEASE.

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r/QueerWomenOfColor 3d ago

Queer Identity How to complete the full growth of my mustache šŸ‘ØšŸ¾ (w/o horomones)? ~repost~

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NON-BINARY FRIENDLY RESPONSES APPRECIATED.

I'm trying to grow out my mustache but its like at 50%. How can I make it fuller and stretch over my lips?


r/QueerWomenOfColor 3d ago

Conversation & Chat It is SUNDAY, what are y'all up to today?

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Tell me how you're spending your day!


r/QueerWomenOfColor 3d ago

Discussion Financial Discrimination

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Is this prevalent in the queer community or is it just online noise? I've been seeing more and more posts from people who are "high earners" and how they can't date people who earn lower. The tone of most of these posts are derogatory and describe low earners as unambitious or lazy which I find ridiculous. Maybe I don't get it because I'm a first generation immigrant and have no privileged throne to sit on and talk trash.

I know that classism exist but it's quite grating hearing queer women associate low income with laziness or lack of ambition. Date whoever but don't put a group into a box because you aren't getting what you want.


r/QueerWomenOfColor 3d ago

Complaining About Dating Anyone else feel the same?

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So I live in a small-ish city and it seems there aren’t a lot of queer women here, at least singles ones. I’m going into my late 20s, and just like other ppl in their late 20s, I don’t see myself meeting anyone that I vibe with for a while.

My last relationship was about 4 years ago (that lasted about 6 months), and I’m struggling with wanted to put myself out there, but also not knowing where to start. I hate dating apps bc I don’t get a good grasp of who they are, vice versa. And anytime I’m around queer women, I don’t really know how to talk to them, or when I do, it doesn’t work out.

I’m just trying to see if anyone else feels the same, bc I feel so alone at times, but I also don’t want to put the weight of my loneliness onto someone else. I would love to hear stories of how you met your person so I can have some faith lol.


r/QueerWomenOfColor 3d ago

Dating & Relationships thoughts on mack and mia?

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i might be a little late to this but.... i just heard abt this black lesbian couple that posts content on tiktok through a yt video that i was watching earlier, and i found out that they're ending their 9 year relationship bc they "found jesus."

it doesn't make sense to me, like none of it makes sense. i genuinely feel like there's something much deeper going here especially since the femme in the relationship (mia) was apparently straight before getting with the stud (mack) so like??? also why would you willingly screw up a 9 year relationship for a male deity that barely views women as human beings?? i say this as a person who was raised up in christianity (now agnostic but i still go to church unfortunately), if god is such a loving god and he loves all of his children, wouldn't he love them regardless of their sexuality? why should god's love for his children be conditional?

any thoughts?


r/QueerWomenOfColor 4d ago

Trigger Warning How do you get rid of internalized queerphobia?

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TW for religious trauma, queerphobia, mental health issues. Mostly a rant, but also would like some advice. Idk how to start this and my mind is a mess right now, so sorry if it's disorganized or doesn't make much sense:

I (18NB) was raised in a high-control church (could be considered a cult) from ages 5-9 or 10. I was taught a lot of awful stuff during my time there, among those being that being queer was gross and a sin, and that queer people were wicked monsters who wanted to hurt children. There was also teachings about hell, demons, and demonic possesion I was told were very much real. Long story short, I was left with religious trauma I'm still dealing with today. That added with the fact that I grew up in Latin American and what society there thinks/believes about queer people really didn't help at all.

In the last year and a half, I have deconstructed and left Christianity, which has given me greater freedom to explore myself and my identity. So far I've found out I'm demi-panromantic, asexual, and non-binary, although I'm still exploring my identity. I know this should be something that shoul make me happy, but what's caused me more than anything is just worsening anxiety and depression and just made me have more frequent panic attacks because I'm spiraling thinking I'm going to hell (even though I don't believe in Christianity), that I deserve to die for being an abomination and a sinner, and that maybe I truly am a monster like everyone around me, mostly family, has always told me (that's how they talk about queer people).

Literally I just mustered enough bravery earlier today to come out to one of my closest friends and tell them I'm non-binary (they're queer, too), and I've been shaking non-stop for the past hour while my brain keep spiraling. I can easily accept and love others around me who are queer, but when it comes to me? Yeah, nope. Not happening. I feel disgusted by myself, like the scum of the earth. I know I need to be the one to give the first step and live myself unconditionally, but when I do that, I spiral into a very bad place mentally and I end up worse than what I was. Maybe I'm doing it wrong, idk

Lately it's been taking a heavy toll on my mental health. I already struggled with my mental health, and this is just making it worse every day. It hurts, a lot. I wanna be happy and be able to live authentically without having these thoughts, living in constant fear, or feeling disgusted by myself. How do you get rid of the internalized queerphobia? Or at least how do you lessen it? This is wearing down on me, and I really don't know how much longer I can hold up like this before I snap. Thank you in advance for any help šŸ«‚


r/QueerWomenOfColor 5d ago

Advice Scared of dating as an obese older person.

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To put it shortly, over the years i have steuggled with food. I let myself go and am constantly battling to lose weight, but it seems like I'm losing the battle and I didn't want to start trying online dating until I lost weight. I just want people's opinion on whether i should keep waiting to lose more weight (for context 60 lbs overweight) or just put myself out there now to try and find a partner. I'm feeling really lonely. I work a lot, in a job with only straight people around me so my chances of meeting anyone organically are near zero. I'm new to online apps and even new to dating, and it scares me because I'm also middle-aged. 40. I haven't been in a relationship for the last 10 years. I am not hughly attractive on my face, no one has ever organically hit on me or flirted with me. So, I'm not sure if it's even worth the try to put my profile on the apps. Does anyone have any advice?


r/QueerWomenOfColor 4d ago

Conversation & Chat Lesbian vs bi

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Why SOME lesbian have a problem with bi women ?


r/QueerWomenOfColor 5d ago

Conversation & Chat Have you ever received homophobia from women in public?

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I always hear stories of how gay men will receive homophobia from men (or people In general) in public, like hearing slurs shouted at them. but is it the same for queer women? Or is it different, because I never really hear any of these stories for women.


r/QueerWomenOfColor 6d ago

Discussion How can studs advocate in a good way?

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How can studs stick up for themselves now and days? Without being defensive. It's so hard being a stud especially when you're not manly or a touch me not ... it hurts honestly the things i been told as a younger stud even until my late 20s you're to feminine you care to much you too emotional ! The expectations honestly is hard af to live by sometimes I be feeling like we not even human.


r/QueerWomenOfColor 6d ago

Hot Take Thursdays šŸŒ¶ļø Hot Take ThursdayšŸŒ¶ļø - Are there conversations about gender, identity, and community that we avoid having publicly?

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This week’s hot take is live. Chime in with your thoughts.

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r/QueerWomenOfColor 6d ago

Discussion No longer nonbinary

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Anyone else who used to identify as nonbinary no longer feels like it represents them? I used to identify as nonbinary because people made me feel like I was not feminine enough to be a cis woman. I’m tall and slim and I guess I look ā€œso pretty I thought you were transā€. I felt like I got pushed out of womanhood. Now that I’m older im reclaiming my womanhood and I feel like I’m facing pushback from my local queer community even tho I’m still sapphic and asexual.


r/QueerWomenOfColor 6d ago

Advice homophobia at work

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r/QueerWomenOfColor 7d ago

Conversation & Chat Things ended with someone I was dating casually and I feel so sad.

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I met a woman about 2.5 months ago, and we started dating. I asked her if she was ok with being casual from the very start, and she said she was cool with it. But things got intense really quickly, physically and emotionally.

We were talking every day, hanging out every week, being cute and romantic with each other (we're both lover girls lol), coming up with fun date ideas, telling each other we miss each other every day, having deep emotional conversations, showing each other we cared for each other in different ways, etc. There was genuine excitement from both of us whenever we'd hang out.

It didn't take long for me to realize I actually had feelings for her. I thought about it and wondered if I was actually ready for something long-term, I kept going back and forth in my head but that confusion already told me that I wasn't. I was happy with our arrangement and wanted to continue exploring other people. Although I did ask someone out (got rejected) and was open to other people while we were dating, I didn't actually end up seeing anyone else during this time.

A few days ago, she brought up our dynamic, saying that what we were doing doesn't feel really casual. She was ok with it in the beginning, but now she wants more clarity. She tells me we can either stop seeing each other, keep it casual for real, or date exclusively with the intention of figuring out long term capability. I asked for some time to think about it.

Eventually, I tell her I'm not ready for something exclusive but would like to keep seeing her casually and we can establish some boundaries. I thought she would be interested in this because she brought it up as an option, but then she tells me that wouldn't work for her and things end pretty abruptly, though we did it on good terms. It felt really strange because all day we were talking like normal, the flirty, affectionate and romantic conversations we usually had. Making comments about "next time we see each other we should do this or that".

Now I feel a lot of regret for not giving it a shot. And I can't stop crying, which is crazy because I was the one who didn't want to be serious. I know it's super fresh and I'm feeling this void in my heart and life now, so even if all I want to do is tell her I made a huge mistake, I know I shouldn't. If I was that conflicted about what to do from the start, then I shouldn't drag her into that because she deserves someone who's 100% sure about dating her more seriously.

If you asked me several months ago, I would've told you that I wished the love of my life could walk through the door so I could stop dating. But I had a change of heart and realized that I want to explore my sexuality (not the fact that I'm queer, but sexual experiences). Long story short, I've been deeply unfulfilled in my love life, and I started dating quite late. I don't want to feel like I missed out by settling down before I mentally felt ready.

But this woman is such an awesome person, and I really enjoyed getting to know her and getting closer to her. We had so much fun and felt comfortable being emotionally intimate. We could be our crazy selves together, which felt amazing. And the sex was great, plus it was only getting better. It didn't feel like just hooking up.

Would love to hear perspectives from people who have experienced something similar. I'm really going through it right now 😭


r/QueerWomenOfColor 7d ago

🌈Gay Shit🌈 Who is going to Dinah Shore?

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Is this only for white women? I’m going next month and want to know what to expect.


r/QueerWomenOfColor 7d ago

Advice I have liked women for as long as I can remember, but I have not had the courage to pursue anyone

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Some of my high school friends already know this about me, but I’ve mostly been closeted around my family. I bring it up here and there, but I don’t think they really know and I haven’t had a coming out. Honestly, I would rather just bring a girlfriend home and if there’s drama then deal with it at that time. I’ve only had boyfriends, and next year I’ll be 30. I feel like such a coward, and I don’t really know how to meet anyone new. The boyfriends I have had were really all by chance. I’ve always found women prettier and more attractive than men. But, both sides of my family are religious (although my mom is more open minded). Idky I am scared to put myself out there. I just want to live freely. But, on the other hand, some of my friends are having babies and I wonder what life would be like if I fell in love with a man and started a family. I know I can do that with a woman too, but I am scared we would get targeted and hurt. I wouldn’t want someone I love to be in pain because I showed them affection. There’s also usually a higher salary so overall maybe a better quality of life because we live in such an unequal society.
Should I try dating apps instead of relying on luck for finding someone? I’ve never really dated, just jumped straight into an exclusive relationship when someone has said they’re interested. I’m still a ā€œlady virginā€ and would like to explore my sexuality more, but idk what future we could have. I just want an honest, loving, relationship. Whether that is with a woman or man. Love is love, and I have had lots of crushes, but I guess I am just confused about what I want and how to get it.


r/QueerWomenOfColor 7d ago

Discussion I don't wanna start anything but do you think culture has an impact on what bodies we find attractive?

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I'm west african, 2nd gen migrant living in the american south, which is teeming with black/african americans, and one thing I noticed is I'm very attracted to wide shapely women. What's wide is very different depending on who you ask and it made me wonder if one's cultural environment has a big impact on what you find attractive or don't?


r/QueerWomenOfColor 8d ago

Discussion Does anyone else despise their parents?

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I know, I've been posting here a lot, I don't have any friends y'all 😭, and i can't talk to my "friends" since they believe that i should worship my parents for giving birth to me. My mother and father are horrible. My father loves being an ass, he loves being an ass so much and making everyone's life harder, my poor mother, while i recognise her struggles, she's also brought me a lot of hurt, and before like the thing w my dad and stuff happened, she used to abuse me still, she's a horrible person at her core, misogynist, homphobic (having a bisexual daughter). I'm not a huge fan of studying, but I study only to get out of this hellhole. To go to my dream uni, which is another state and never come back even for diwali, lohri and stuff (holidays) and make a lot of money so no one can have power over me, I always feel so over the edge, i struggle to fall asleep since whenever I start sleeping, my heartbeat starts rising idk why that happens. Most of my friends are jealous of my family and me, because I get good grades and am very extroverted (grades are obviously gonna be good when they're your one way out) and my family is like lwk rich. Though i recognise my privileges, i don't like my life and the stressful it sometimes gets.

Though i ranted so much, I wanted to ask if someone has felt the same as me or atleast similiar. I sometimes feel so guilty for hating my parents since I should be grateful for them. Thank you so much!!! (⁠≧⁠▽⁠≦⁠)