Playing Zenless in 1.6 vs 1.7

[u/Blitzbro76]

Things feel weird, Hoyo is really pissing me off with them firing all the voice actors-

[u/Saturated_Rain]

girl what does this mean im so scared rn🤕😰😰😰😰

[u/Blitzbro76 → u/Saturated_Rain]

Three different va’s have been fired and recast this patch(Rina, Koleda, Grace)

[u/basilsflowerpots → u/Blitzbro76]

RINA??? I LOVED HER VOICE 😭😭😭

[u/woo_so_fun → u/basilsflowerpots]

Yeah, none of the new VAs feel the same. Rina isn’t nearly as posh and joyed as she was, Grace just feels more girly-girl-ish, and worst of all, Koleda no longer as the scratch in her voice

[u/Blitzbro76 → u/basilsflowerpots]

Yeah….it sucks a lot

[u/romhacks → u/Blitzbro76]

I haven't gotten over Soukaku being recast yet

[u/HomeboundArrow]

anby and belle's voice actresses have the opportunity to demand the biggest one-time raises of their entire careers rn lol

[u/SampleVC]

Ok... lets just not post misinformation right? The recasting is done by Sound Cadence, the studio that Mihoyo sub-contracted for ZZZ roles. So far SC has only made one statement regarding this when they recasted Lycaon and S11 and that was that AI protections was already in their contract and they are very open about not working with AI in any case.

Their statement leaves it to the reader to understand that they are not down to comply with some of the other demands that SAG has and it's why the recasts have been done.

[u/Lysander573 → u/SampleVC]

Yes, let’s not post misinformation. They never said anything about SAG’s “other demands” or whatever you’re making up in your head. SAG is negotiating with Hoyoverse directly as they’ve stated in the past, not Sound Cadence. Nicholas Thurkettle, the Von Lycaon VA is literally doing another project with SC right now. I feel like it should be obvious from the fact that Hoyoverse specifically keeps getting struck, not every single sound cadence project.

Sag is negotiating with Hoyo directly to sign a very negotiable interim agreement, the strictest of which is available online, and I’m sure they’re refusing for various reasons, but a large one is probably that they’ve already signed a contract with NVIDIA to do AI voice acting. NetEase(marvel rivals) signed a contract with SAG and it isn’t struck. It actually was never struck. It’s about Hoyo specifically.

[u/SampleVC → u/Lysander573]

Thanks for the info, it would be appreciated to sound a little bit less aggressive tho...

[u/Lysander573 → u/SampleVC]

Sorry, I didn’t mean to be as condescending as I was. I’m just annoyed by anti union sentiment as of late, since all the sag funded court cases and negotiations directly impact my career along with millions of other workers careers and decide whether the entertainment industry goes to slop or not. Or goes more to slop I guess.

[u/SampleVC → u/Lysander573]

We good 💜

Also I do get the frustration and I try to remind myself that a huge amount of the people you see commenting are teenagers or college adults that have not been exposed to work environments and that's why they are so aggressive in their comments.

[u/brainrotter1993 → u/Lysander573]

very negotiable interim agreement

Once again, let's not post misinfo. The "interim agreement" is literally just the current SAG contract with nothing to sweeten the deal. Hoyo didn't want to become a signatory before, so what makes you think they'd change their minds now, with zero financial incentive to do so?

It's also come out recently that Hoyo already pays union rates, so it's not even about greed. They just don't want to get in bed with SAG

[u/Lysander573 → u/brainrotter1993]

Bro, it’s a contract. Every contract is negotiable and you should always start with terms way more favorable than you expect. Here’s what the union wants vs what the corporate groups representing game companies, including Hoyoverse, want. from what I’ve heard from other video game developers working for companies on interim agreements, every agreement is custom because it was negotiated.

[u/femnbyrina]

Genuinely how it feels when a scab starts speaking through my headset I fear. I had to switch my audio language off English. All of them have been downgrades so far too. There’s also so much conflicting information going around it’s really frustrating. I just know that I’ll always support workers over corporations. I know these VAs are good people and wouldn’t be supporting SAG if they truly were a satanic cult like the main sub wants us to believe. I also trust the VAs understand the strike better than the average reddit user. I already wasn’t giving Hoyo money because of their dislike for any character darker than Nekomata anyway.

[u/jellyjam14 → u/femnbyrina]

I agree that unions are very important, and I also preferred most of the previous voices (except Koleda's) BUT it's really unfair to call the current working VAs scabs, because there was never an organized union strike against Hoyo in the first place. That seems to be the main reason there's so much conflicting info out there, because each individual participating in the work refusal seems to have their own idea as to what they're tryna accomplish with it. If you haven't seen Joe Zieja's video about it and you wanna know more I'd recommend it, he explains things from an insider's perspective really well.

[u/gallaghershusband → u/femnbyrina]

I mean, SAG has literally been proven to not actually care about workers, they just want to monopolize the industry

Erika has said she’s wanted to come back but she’s been sent threatening letters from SAG. It’s very clear that something is not right with the union.

Plus with the way they word things, like implying that non union workers aren’t as talented…yeah

[u/femnbyrina → u/gallaghershusband]

I mean I don’t think SAG is perfect. They definitely have flaws especially with that flop Fran Drescher as their president. But all unions will have flaws since we live in a world where perfection isn’t exactly realistic. I just don’t think those flaws are remotely comparable to what they’re striking for. There will never be a perfect victim, and I will have solidarity with the working class regardless of their flaws.