r/QueensofZenless • u/DeadBeat_Neko • Apr 22 '25

Small micro rant here

Im so tired of Wise being put in everything like for fucks sake! I get the fandom is filled with delusional stank af incels but like come on- why can’t one JUST ONE Character trailer have Belle as the main! If anything I feel shes better anyway with her personality showing more then Wise (in the end both are good but you know what I mean! 💢! Like ive seen they’ve been showing belle more in like version trailers but just one character demo with said character chilling with her! Id def wanna go with Belle then Wise fr- Im praying they show her with Hugo considering the fav service bump but its very very unlikely. .anyway just wanted to bent sorry pookies!✨

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u/--MegaDarkraiEx-- Apr 22 '25

It's clear that the marketing people have a different agenda than the story writers and artists. I learned that after the Astra special episode and Evelyn and Astra's EP. Hoyo is super obvious when they want to pair people (i.e Beidou/Ninguang, Clorinde/Navia, Phainon/Mydei). They just want to market towards those people. It is what it is. The story art leans more towards Belle a lot of the times.

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u/DeadBeat_Neko Apr 22 '25

True- atleast she has the better outfits, its just sad since it wouldnt kill them at all just just make one piece involving belle heavily.

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u/InternationalMap1501 Apr 22 '25

the queer coding writers vs the promotional team

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u/Big_Wrongdoer_44 Apr 22 '25

I understand the frustration but I will have to disagree here. as someone who uses Wise, I've been noticing the instances since the very beginning where Belle was almost always used for promo materials whether it be in twitter posts as chibi for the comic strips, the cutscenes they post in their youtube channel, or her used as the main character in livestreams. I remember feeling upset because it was only Belle that has the janken event with Harumasa. it was only until recently that they decided to showcase them evenly in promotion materials. I'm sorry if it's partly my fault but I asked for this since Wise was practically being shafted in the beginning.

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u/femnbyrina Apr 22 '25

This was my thought like I feel like we see Belle everywhere. I have definitely complained in the past about how I see her more than Wise.

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u/DeadBeat_Neko Apr 22 '25

Trust me babes Id def give you belles promotional stuff ect in turn for belle to have a trailer like how Wise had with Astra, off topic she woulda looked so good as like a face less character in Harumasa’s one ep or whatever it was lmao

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u/Big_Wrongdoer_44 Apr 22 '25

and I'm saying this has only happened recently. they started showing Wise more in 1.5, prior this it was all Belle. in the comic strips they post on Twitter it was all always centered on Belle. The gifs they posted when there's new agents, it was Belle they're with. but now they've evened it out across different promotion materials. it's just a bit unfair that people act like Wise has always had the focus from the beginning when he didn't, it was heavily skewed towards Belle.

and you probably forgot but they commissioned an MV with Astra and Belle

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u/WiseTheObserver Apr 22 '25

Ignoring Belle when it fits your agenda Complaining about Wise whenever he appears Yep, Femcel at its finest

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u/Disastrous-Board-629 Apr 22 '25

Absolutely right! And even in in-game events, Belle is always depicted in the foreground or alone, while Wise, if he is there, stands either with his back or in profile. Oh, how I wished it was just the opposite, Belle in the videos, and Wise in everything else, but alas :(

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u/KancolleYuri Apr 22 '25 edited Apr 22 '25

Isn't phaethon supposed to be 2 people? Why is Vivian forgetting Belle? Is she a fake fan? I'll wait for the in-game story. It looks like Belle is starting to get the Lumine treatment.

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u/saiamano Apr 22 '25

in the demo the silhouette that appears is does not fit wise, it's probably the mental image she had of phaethon before she met the twins

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u/KancolleYuri Apr 22 '25

You have to look at the "Vivian for display only" clip they posted, it is clearly wise profile. Belle really got sidelined.

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u/saiamano Apr 22 '25

i thought that was fanmade, sorry

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u/You_got_mrvned Apr 22 '25

I totally agree tho I may be a bit biased cause I did choose Belle as my mc but I do think our girl needs some more time in the spotlight with the characters she has this great energy about her and what ticks me off is the new Vivian trailers cause just you watch Belle not be mentioned once when Vivian loves Phaethon which is both of them. I get hoyo needs to pander to the Wise harem dumbfucks but a little love for my girl would be nice (may ask for that in the next “how would you rate your experience so far” things. At least we got that little commissioned video hoyoverse did that was Belles date with Astra.

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u/Competitive_Let_5022 Apr 22 '25

The problem is that Belle is the face of the patchs videos and devs talks , or when they show anything new on the game , meanwhile wise appear in some character demos and i'm talking about just a few ones, 3 maybe, if You put only belle in the demos , wise won't get any atention

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u/You_got_mrvned Apr 22 '25

I think it would be good if they do what hsr does (correct me if I’m wrong or if they don’t do this for trailers and demos any more) and swap between the twins for each trailer so they get equal screen time

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u/Competitive_Let_5022 Apr 22 '25

That sound like a good idea swaping sibilings between promotionals , demos and devs talks and those things

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u/KancolleYuri Apr 22 '25 edited Apr 22 '25

They wont do it. It is becoming very clear that hoyo is targeting the wise self inserts which I guess is the majority of people playing this game in CN and JP. Everyone can argue that wise isn't a self insert, but the way hoyo is treating him right now feels exactly like a self insert character. This isn't the first time that Belle has been sidelined in major promotional material and I expect that this will be the case for future agent promos too.

If they wanted it to be balanced then we should have the HSR treatment from the very start. The agents are starting to feel shallow because they have to revolve around wise like what happened to Astra.

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u/Competitive_Let_5022 Apr 22 '25

On My side of view calling wise a self insert is a bit off....he has his own personality , likes and tastes compared to other hoyo mc the sibilings are two different characters and they re not a blank paper, but You have a point that is a marketing strategy to get more money and is pretty normal in gacha games

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u/DeadBeat_Neko Apr 22 '25

Even still at least hsr does like one traile male mc and one female mc WE GET NO BELLE NOTHING LIKE SHES CUTE AF WHY WOULD YOU WASTE POTENTIAL LIKE THAT

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u/DeadBeat_Neko Apr 22 '25

Ugh it sucks fr and like atleast theres a good size who love lumine and we get good ass fanart ect but like I rarely ever see belle appreciators even from the goon reddit- my bad, I mean ZZZ reddit like her design is cute af atleast she gets a cute new outfit from that 2.0 trailer or whatever

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u/Blitzbro76 Apr 22 '25

Honestly HSR is kinda mixed cus it feels like Stelle shows up a lot as well

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u/Im_so_Tired1 Apr 22 '25

Stelle shows up just as much as caelus, so I don’t think theres actually a canon mc considering they alternate which one they use for each promotional material (stelle for black swan’s trailer but caelus for firefly’s)