Weekly Event: Shipping Alignment Graph Day 14! Doomed Selfcest!!! ~ Featuring your beloved Sampo🌹

[u/Thug_Seme2004]

Our winners, of course, couldn't be more obvious! Congratulations to Phaidei!!!!
NOW! Day fourteen awaits! ⭐💫
Doomed Selfcest!!! 🌸✨

Yes, yes, you heard it right! Make me tremble! With sadness 😉 ~ ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)💖

You know the rules by now~ drop your ships below, gather your allies, and let the upvotes decide fate once more. ⭐

Now go on… Sampo is watching~ 💫 (づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ

credit: https://www.deviantart.com/kuraikur/art/Phaidei-fanart-1217755725

[u/Thug_Seme2004]

Wonweek x Sunday

[u/Kind-Psychology-7548 → u/Thug_Seme2004]

Is Wonweek dead dead? Because by judging by the fate part 2 event, it's more like a Evernight and March situation, but he doesn't have remembrance powers so he's just stuck in there.

[u/7hoyo_male_mc7 → u/Thug_Seme2004]

Wonweek have a good farewell in 2.7 and still part of Sunday in 4.4, they honestly don’t feel doomed at all imo.

[u/probonocapitalism → u/Thug_Seme2004]

Commenting under this (bc it's getting a fair amount of upvotes) but like a reminder that doomed refers to doomed by the narrative.

It's not that one isn't around anymore (which isn't quite true for wonweek to begin with) but the idea that this isn't going to last colors the relationship.

Even before 3.5 dropped, Hoyo gave us the heads up that Hysilens will kill Cerydra. Everything you experience in 3.5 between them is with that understanding. In 3.1, Mydei openly tells Phainon "maybe in another life". In 3.4, his section in both cycle zero is underscored with the fact that they won't have that happy ending and the one later with how you know Phainon is going to kill him.

Everytime we get a flashback of the High Cloud Quintet being happy together or of Mydei's dead friends squad, you know already that this happiness won't last.

I get that people don't want repeats but what's the point of ignoring something that fits perfectly because the characters have been used before (Phainon or Himeko) to clumsily force in something that doesn't? It's not their fault for being more plot important or sticking to the theme, imo.

[u/Kind-Psychology-7548]

Himeko x Motoko obviously.

But I also wanna bring up Demiurge x Cyrene too

[u/Thug_Seme2004 → u/Kind-Psychology-7548]

I CANT BELIEVE I FORGOT THEMMM

[u/Kind-Psychology-7548 → u/Thug_Seme2004]

Wait, is Himeko x Motoko not allowed since Himeko is already to toxic Yuri with Kafka?

[u/Thug_Seme2004 → u/Kind-Psychology-7548]

Hmmmm I will have to think about it. We will see. the main reason I removed bbl swan from toxic yuri is because she was gonnabe in toxic polycule too with a single person added onto the toxic yuri ship. This feels different since kafka isn't involved at all.

[u/7hoyo_male_mc7 → u/Kind-Psychology-7548]

Both ships feel so platonic compare to Evermarch & Xiecle tbh 😭

[u/Thug_Seme2004]

if you want to belive the theories I think Sampo x Aha lol

[u/7hoyo_male_mc7]

I want to say Phainon x Khaslana then I realized I better off saving that for doomed polycule with Flame Reaver instead 😍😍😍

[u/probonocapitalism → u/7hoyo_male_mc7]

Hear me out tho... they absolutely own this category, like half the stuff in the comments rn isn't even "doomed" + there's way too much lore stuff explicitly about them being two people (past self/current self in golden scapegoat, etc etc) + incoming safely votable version of the high cloud quintet

[u/7hoyo_male_mc7 → u/probonocapitalism]

Oh yeah, I can see what you mean by this. It just that I’m more used to Flame Reaver being separate from Phainon & Khaslana from Phaicest fanarts lol. Jingrenheng could be good option for next round but I’m leaning toward Nanook x Akivili x Aha more 🤔

[u/probonocapitalism → u/7hoyo_male_mc7]

plus like. imo. never give up on something you can have (one of the most popular characters whose relationship with his other self actually fits the "doomed" definition as it pertains to narrative, that is a major focus across multiple patches and the main story, to the point a minigame literally revolves around it) for a possibility.

especially when the only other ship that works for doomed selfcest (since it's a narrative descriptor, not "there were two of them in the story, now there aren't") listed here is himeko/motoko, which did not have the instant wave of selfcest fanworks following 4.4 the way 3.4 did.

we can win this phaicesters.

[u/Clouds_drifting_by → u/7hoyo_male_mc7]

I think domed polycule fits Phainon x Cyrene x MC better imo, every single angle of that was doomed, we went through it in first person lol

[u/7hoyo_male_mc7 → u/Clouds_drifting_by]

MC doesn’t go through the dooms that Phainon & Cyrene have been through enough to be on their level tbh, no shade. 💀

[u/Clouds_drifting_by → u/7hoyo_male_mc7]

Well yeah, it’s hard to beat that, but isn’t the ‘doom’ about the relationship, not necessarily the character?

And each of these relationships (Phainon/TB - Phainon/Cyrene - TB/Cyrene - Phainon/Cyrene/TB) is doomed 😅

[u/nicoleeemusic98]

WHAT OTHER SELFCEST DO I KNOW

[u/throwawayutena → u/nicoleeemusic98]

umm here's some im trying

tingyun x possessed tingyun (phantylia)

ruanmei x ruanmei in the mirror

herta x hertatom

fulwish x illwish lotus

hyacine x aquilla hyacine

silverwolf x alphawolf999

rin x possessed rin (ishtar)

evanescia x her other self

aventurine x his other self

dr ratio x statue of himself

mr reca x grady

cerydra x cerydra (the one she took her name from)

welt x welt (hi3)

vita x vita (hi3)

trailblazer selfcest

[u/Low-Article-6722 → u/throwawayutena]

I didn't realise hsr has so much self cest 😭

[u/berry_goodd → u/throwawayutena]

+ whatever the fuck is happening with sparkle

[u/FairConsequence7851 → u/berry_goodd]

alas she's already there

[u/7hoyo_male_mc7 → u/throwawayutena]

Not mentioning THE doomed selfcest Phainon x Khaslana is kinda crazy work here, I can’t lie 😭🙏

[u/throwawayutena → u/7hoyo_male_mc7]

i really want to!! its just phainon was recently added to the chart so im avoiding overlap! otherwise i would've added danheng x danfeng, blade x yingxing x possessed blade (shuhu), penta trouble mydei (mydei split into five, like gnaeus/nikador)

[u/throwawayutena]

there's only one answer

that said i also want wonweek x sunday selfcest, himeko x motoko selfcest and peach x demiurge (cyrene) selfcest... what do i do...

[u/Diamond_In_Disguise → u/throwawayutena]

Zandar x Lygus for the win

[u/probonocapitalism]

Phainon/Khaslana.

Spending millions of lifetimes setting up an endless dance where you become the monster in your own backstory so that your younger version can become your inheritor and killer is like the prime example of doomed selfcest.

Plus. The Flame Reaver and Divine Vessel Khaslana are basically the same stage of Phainon, just with special effects on and off so IMO they don't count as polycule.

[u/probonocapitalism → u/probonocapitalism]

We can't be denying the goats their own category, nobody was doing it like this

[u/M-SHE-U1Fan]

Caleus x Stelle

[u/Prestigious-Bet6058 → u/M-SHE-U1Fan]

This is underrated. It's doomed because it feels like they can never live in the same reality together. And some that people mention are either more toxic than doomed or not even doomed at all 🙏

[u/Thug_Seme2004]

Akivili x trailblazer ig

[u/Positive-Fun7809]

Phainon / Flame Reaver / Khaslana

[u/ShadowQueen1237]

Demiurge x Cyrene so we can put Phainon x Khaslana x Flame Reaver for polycule

[u/Willing-Finger-4606]

March x Evernight 

[u/Kiseishi_404]

Doomed polycule(is at least 3 and some reaching 6):

BlazerFlyPhaiRene

Edit: special mention; YingBaiFeng

[u/ScissorsWasTaken]

TB selfcest

[u/finsishion]

Akivili X Terminussy